Srsly? A company making laptops with multiple screen sizes and now finally gets that phones also require choices has been whining that we have had that as one of our choices on our phones?

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We have to keep in mind that ATT/Verizon is far from Apple's whole game - its worldwide acceptance is high, and this move will only improve things.
This move would be very "unapple like".
flash lite doesn't work on 2.2 or 2.3I seem to think that fragmentation means different users get stuck with non-current OS revisions and don't have access to basic features. I'm looking at you Samsung, and a whole class of phones hamstrung without the JIT compiler, copy and paste or the ability to deal with Flash websites.
Why would you want Flash Lite when with 2.2+ you get full Flash???
Please explain in light of my earlier post - the single iPod became a line, their single laptop became a line, the iMac became a line, how is the iPhone becoming a line any different?
In what way is this unapple like?
Your claim is being repeated but repetition is not substantiation.
Apple has never made a product in recent years that was priced to compete with entry level products from competitors. I can get a really nice netbook for $400-500. You can't get a MacBook for that price.
Why would you want Flash Lite when with 2.2+ you get full Flash???
Please explain in light of my earlier post - the single iPod became a line, their single laptop became a line, the iMac became a line, how is the iPhone becoming a line any different?
Much different – this was a natural evolution of a new technology. Digital players were new and once they had the chance to diversify, they did as quickly as possible.the single iPod became a line...how is the iPhone becoming a line any different?
their single laptop became a line... how is the iPhone becoming a line any different?
So I stand by my statement that iPhone becoming a line is different.. Apple is definitely going against their iPhone business model of having 1 model (normally 1 per year) because they feel that they have to. Not by choice, unlike their computers and mp3 player industry. But because Android is taking over and if they don
Apple has never made a product in recent years that was priced to compete with entry level products from competitors. I can get a really nice netbook for $400-500. You can't get a MacBook for that price.
They won't fail, they will just become a niche product.
That is the Apple way.
I think this iPhone thing, if true is a little too little too late.
It's in Apple's corporate nature to be adaptive.
They planned for this long ago, and yes, Android is a part of it, but they planned for AN Android in any case.
I disagree. Their corporate nature is to hit on something, and ride it until the company nears bankruptcy.
I think they believed that they had YEARS before they would have any real competition, and could sit on their laurels.
However, Android became so powerful so quickly that they quickly found themselves behind the technological curveball.
Despite what they've done in the 2Ks, they'll just never live down the '80s and '90s, huh?
And that didn't do exactly that with the iPhone - how???
Yeah - maybe only sarcasm can make the point at this juncture:
It's amazing that the guys that had their heads handed to them by Microsoft never learned anything. They accidentally rose from bankruptcy to a force to be reckoned with. They did that by all by being stupid. And it never once occurred to them to either change into another Microsoft, or to instead expect the next Microsoft (in this case Android) as an inevitable outcome to their luxury marketing, but to be prepared ahead of time with adaptive marketing.
You're right - they're total imbeciles.
You're all completely right.
And it's so unApple-like of them to not accept defeat and go bankrupt because they've never been surprised before.
If they were making changes in order to better compete, then I would say yes... however they are behaving now just as they did in the '80s and '90s. If you want me to give them credit for change, then they need to actually make changes.
Yes, they made some headway after bankruptcy. They found something that works. They've become insanely profitable, and they intend to ride that out until they find themselves in bankruptcy again.
Then we're in agreement and some miscommunication is corrected.I think you're confused, that's exactly what I think THEY DID do with the iPhone.
Please.How do you see them changing to deal with the Android competition? How do you see them handling Android any differently than they handled Windows?
I agree that they SHOULD have learned. I don't agree that they DID.
Please.
Part of the fail with Microsoft involved intellectual property theft, Woz getting a head injury and being put out of commission, Jobs' second round of maniacal tendencies surfacing followed by Scully's driving the company directly into the ground.
You seem to forget that Apple was once the lost-cost everyone's solution and Microsoft was their ally.
Gates and Jobs had phenomenal success - so much so that most people seem blinded to criticisms of either without resorting to revisionist histories or folklore.
Jobs was in his fourth round of maniacal tendendies when this latest round health issues occurred.
If they fail this time, it's more likely going be over the power vacuum and the corporation attempting to obviously re-define itself while trying to assure stockholders that they are and simultaneously are not trying to do that.
By definition of time and circumstance, they cannot handle this latest threat the way they did with Microsoft.
I've posted repeatedly that the iPhone is to our smarphone segment was the Ford T Model was to the car industry.
It wasn't the first, it wasn't the best, but it was ubiquitous and you could have it in any color you wanted so long as it was black.
The T Model is gone, Ford is still around, cranking out a variety like others.
I'm predicting the same for the iPhone and have been for months, with exactly that language.
I believe it's self-evident that they've learned - I don't pretend to know if they've learned all they should or that even if they did, if they'll execute properly.
I obviously continue to contend that the move to expand the iPhone into a line of devices is not unApple-like, because I know their history, too, and like others, I believe I know something about how they think.
By the way - how about that iPad? It's one radio away from being a big iPhone.
When Jobs came back, he came back with a new vision from when he left - instead of looking for volume he looked for profitability.
Apple will be profitable or die - therefore, Apple will be profitable.
Forget Jobs' theater, and look at them strictly as a business analyst.
The theater greats like Jobs and Gates and Schmidt are very, very smart - but if you look past the surface, you'll find the leopards have never changed their spots - because none of these companies are really terribly clever.
This is true in the short term. However, they are building all of this on the idea that the iPhone is cool and hip.
As it slides further and further behind the technical curve of Android that's going to slip further and further away. There is a point where iOS devices will not be considered Cool/hip any longer, at that point they will cease to be profitable for Apple.
They don't seem to be making any effort to push the iPhone back into a position of being technically superior, and seem to be holding onto the idea that Apple products will be cool because they have always been cool (there are exceptions).
This is not a long term strategy that will see Apple in business 20 years down the road.