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possibly the fastest CPU on the market also since it might be a ARM Cortex a-15 processor which would make Apple the first ones to the market with it..

Well the Qualcomm Krait is based on a-15 architecture, using the a-15 instruction set but with a custom design, and now the LG Optimus G is being released with a quad core Krait, so the iPhone 5 isn't looking so cutting edge is it.
 
iPhone5 explained

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Outstanding perspective (though not the same size really). The irony though is that is all they had to do. I thought perhaps the new connector design would cause pushback, but the design and adapter device will cover for the legacy aftermarket products.

The iPhone 5 is the perfect size for most people and the ecosystem for it for both software and hardware is far better than the fragmented mess we have with Android.

I prefer Android due to the sd card, drag and drop and iTunes free design (plus the AWESOME emulators) and the GS3 due to the display size. A lot of people though prefer the ecosystem that Apple has for the iPhone.

The one negative I see though is Apple could have added a little thickness to afford better battery life, since a fixed battery.

Added: The common complaint was the 4:3 display design on a smalll display, since movies and gaming is awkward. The 16:9-ish design (close to it) affords better movie watching and gets the touch pad controls more out of the way (if designed that way). Yep, Android devices have been that way from the start, but to Apple users, this is new and really cool! ;) Sad but true.
 
Well doesn't that just figure!!!! this company makes me more furious with every new article that comes out! I wonder how many p.pl (pun intended) out there are buying Apple thinking they are getting a product made in the usa...I wonder if they would be surprised that Apple doesn't even have a manufacturing plant in the us! They could be supplying thousands of american's jobs, instead they are mass producing their products overseas making billions and putting nothing back into the US. Samsung (Korean based) even has factories here! I could give a Sh** less what their specs are, even if it was the best freak'n phone on the market and I had all the money in the world to spend, you wouldn't catch this girl buying a damn thing made by them!!! Sorry for the rant~whew~
 
Build quality and materials used blow the GS3 out the water.

Screen size, proportioning, and same old iOS is its biggest downfall.

Flame away but I am not impressed at all with the GS3's build quality and OS glitches is driving me crazy - I cant even copy and paste anything FFS.

So you'll have an incredibly well built phone with a small, badly proportioned screen and an antiquated OS?

Will you be ordering one?
 
Newest projections are end of years sales nearing 60,000,000 devices. Like it or not they will sell.
My only issue with this whole thing is that Apple is NOT driving the market to innovate. They come out with old news hardware and then go out of their way to sue others back into the innovation oblivion so they have friends. Stifling innovation through lawsuits is not (or better said as "should not be!!") a sustainable business model :)
 
Flame away but I am not impressed at all with the GS3's build quality and OS glitches is driving me crazy - I cant even copy and paste anything FFS.

BTW how do you mean you can't copy and paste? Do you mean that when you try to do it the phone won't do what you are trying to make it do? Like you don't get the "Clipboard" notification or something?
 
the S3 is a good phone made from a nice collection of hardware, but there's nothing really innovative about it.

The hardware isn't, no. But I think the software added a bunch of useful stuff - share shot, smart stay, gesture controls etc. The technology has been around for ages, but its been implemented in a new way to provide functionality - thats innovation imho.

look dude the facts are there, i dont get how people are saying this phone has old technology... it just blows my mind, it has the fastest GPU on the mobile market, possibly the fastest CPU on the market also since it might be a ARM Cortex a-15 processor which would make Apple the first ones to the market with it.. no this isnt apple fanyboyism, its just straight facts and im ok with it because i am satisfied with my GS3, it still is a top tier phone as so is the i5

Yeah its got a good CPU etc, problem is its going to be wasted, show me something that 5 will do with this new super duper CPU that a 4 or 4s can't ? And I don't mean show me a bit more of the cat picture!!

Its crippled by the OS and support for previous hardware.

Everyone here is correct - it'll sell a bunch simply because of the name. Other devices are superior but that doesn't matter because they aren't called "iphone".
Friends of mine have iphones, they get a bit quiet when I just plink away and do some trivial task their handset can't - do they ever think of changing ? no, because its not an iphone.

The 5 is a phone simply to retain (most) of the existing userbase, and it'll do it. I do believe however we are seeing a watershed moment, Apple is at its peak and people are starting very slowly to turn away - be it to Android or W8. I think this will continue - in 3 or 4 years time the market will be a much more balanced place.


Edit: And I don't know what barrys problem with cut & paste is, I do it all the time.. maybe start a thread barry and we'll look at it ?
 
not really. at a certain point of scaling down size, the human eyes are not capable of telling the difference. there is no such thing as "perfectly smooth" when you are combining dots, but after a certain point, it looks "pefectly smooth" to our eyes even tho it isn't.

What do you mean "not really"? It's a fact that the ideal viewing distance varies depending on screen size and resolution; there is nothing to debate about that.

At 300 ppi or higher I agree it doesn
 
fragmented

Sorry, you lost me at "fragmented". Argument NULL :smokingsomb:

Just like an argument about anything else inevitably ends up with someone being called Hitler or Nazi, an argument about android always ends up with an argument about "fragmentation".

Its pointless to bring it up. It's also pointless me telling you all that it's pointless bringing it up, but I'm a hypocrite.
 
Well the Qualcomm Krait is based on a-15 architecture, using the a-15 instruction set but with a custom design, and now the LG Optimus G is being released with a quad core Krait, so the iPhone 5 isn't looking so cutting edge is it.

Well we will see, if the i5 is a true A-15 then it will be right up there with those CPU'S if not maybe just a bit quicker
 
Edit: Was trying to post this, but didn't see that your video was the same thing. How do you embed videos instead of linking them?

I just pasted the URL and it did it. There are rules to follow to get one or the other but I don't know them
 
The hardware isn't, no. But I think the software added a bunch of useful stuff - share shot, smart stay, gesture controls etc. The technology has been around for ages, but its been implemented in a new way to provide functionality - thats innovation imho.



Yeah its got a good CPU etc, problem is its going to be wasted, show me something that 5 will do with this new super duper CPU that a 4 or 4s can't ? And I don't mean show me a bit more of the cat picture!!

Its crippled by the OS and support for previous hardware.

Everyone here is correct - it'll sell a bunch simply because of the name. Other devices are superior but that doesn't matter because they aren't called "iphone".
Friends of mine have iphones, they get a bit quiet when I just plink away and do some trivial task their handset can't - do they ever think of changing ? no, because its not an iphone.

The 5 is a phone simply to retain (most) of the existing userbase, and it'll do it. I do believe however we are seeing a watershed moment, Apple is at its peak and people are starting very slowly to turn away - be it to Android or W8. I think this will continue - in 3 or 4 years time the market will be a much more balanced place.


Edit: And I don't know what barrys problem with cut & paste is, I do it all the time.. maybe start a thread barry and we'll look at it ?

Lmfao what is the difference then between the S2 and S3 then if this is your analogy... they can both do the same thing just the S3 has fsster peformance. And why change a highly successful phone when there way works just fine? In your analogy then show me what a S3 can do that a S2 cant do... go on ill be waiting... and how is it crippled by the OS? I came from a 4S and everything was basically instantaneous on that phone so i cant imagine a 2x cpu and 2x gpu performance increases would do. Look iOS is very refined, optimized operating system...can it get bland sometimes and not satiafy a persons every want and need ? Defitnetly, but same goes for any other operating system and any other thing in this world. Stop with the current is fine analogy
 
I just pasted the URL and it did it. There are rules to follow to get one or the other but I don't know them

Hmmm...Your vid isn't showing up as embedded for me. Just a link to it.

Sad that we are discussing how to embed videos instead of that video's hilarity. 1:30 of pure comedy.
 
Edit: Was trying to post this, but didn't see that your video was the same thing. How do you embed videos instead of linking them?

I just pasted the URL and it did it. There are rules to follow to get one or the other but I don't know them

If you copy the YouTube link you will see some numbers and letters after watch?v=. Copy these and put them between YouTube tags. It will look like this

[media=youtube]rdIWKytq_q4&feature=share[/media]


If you're wondering how I wrote the YouTube tags without embedding the video I used [/plain] tags.
 
Really? They were sold out in under an hour? Must be giving something away then huh.

I am an Apple Mac fan and I have both iPhone 4S and Samsung GS3 on AT&T.

They are both great phones but each with quirks just like all phones will be. There are people who will buy the iphone no matter what and Apple can prove with $65 billion dollars that people love it.

Unless you have something to compare to I would not make statements like this.
 
If you copy the YouTube link you will see some numbers and letters after watch?v=. Copy these and put them between YouTube tags. It will look like this

[media=youtube]rdIWKytq_q4&feature=share[/media]


If you're wondering how I wrote the YouTube tags without embedding the video I used [/plain] tags.

Lol

When you have customers like they might as well have realeased the same phone!
 
Lmfao what is the difference then between the S2 and S3 then if this is your analogy... they can both do the same thing just the S3 has fsster peformance. And why change a highly successful phone when there way works just fine? In your analogy then show me what a S3 can do that a S2 cant do... go on ill be waiting... and how is it crippled by the OS? I came from a 4S and everything was basically instantaneous on that phone so i cant imagine a 2x cpu and 2x gpu performance increases would do. Look iOS is very refined, optimized operating system...can it get bland sometimes and not satiafy a persons every want and need ? Defitnetly, but same goes for any other operating system and any other thing in this world. Stop with the current is fine analogy

Here's a little help Crafty not that you need it: S2 vs s3 (things added)
"share shot, smart stay, gesture controls etc" not to mention direct call, smart alert, Tilt to zoom, Pan to move, turn over to mute..palm swipe screen shot, stills while shooting video, Svoice (which I know isn't the greatest) bigger battery, bigger & better screen, free 50GB DropBox cloud storage account, 64 version, ummm I think there might be more.
 
Re the references to a "possibly fantastic" CPU, if you look at the Iphone website under "Tech Specs" it says it has an A6 CPU but NO details - dual or quad core, speeds etc.
The phone is on pre order now, and ready to be shipped, so why are they so coy about what is under the hood? If it is a "fantastic" CPU surely that would make it sell even better? I find it slightly bizarre that people are prepared to shell out several hundred pounds/dollars on a phone simply because of a promise "it will be even better than the previous models"!

Apple (United Kingdom) - iPhone 5 - View all the technical specifications.
 
Haha that just says it all really. iPhone users see what they want to see, they convince themselves that a newer model always means it's better. The video proves just that :)

Sums it up nicely for the most part.
 
Look guys, I understand the arguments that everyone is making for both sides of the coin. However, a little story for you...

I am a VERY tech savvy consumer, and a good portion of professional life is spent analyzing the smartphone industry and the different platforms, so I do have a pretty good basis for what I'm talking about. I've switched back and forth between Android and iOS over the years, always choosing which platform was best for me at the time. I'm now back on Android with the Galaxy S3 on Verizon. Why? Android allows background syncing and we use GOOD at work, which means all my email (roughly 150-200 per day) are always waiting for me vs the pull model on iOS for the same app that could take minutes to sync. Couldn't have been happier with the S3, until today that is...

Today I need to copy text from one email into another, but every time I tried, no matter which app I was in, that app would crash and I'd wind up back at the home screen. OK, I never panic with stuff like this and just assumed it was a glitch with Touchdown. However, I wanted to dot all my i's and cross all my t's before removing Touchdown so I searched these forums only to find that this is a widespread issue with the S3. Not only that, the issue first popped up in June and we're still without a fix from Samsung three months later. Finally I find a solution, either do a factory reset or root the phone. I've rooted in the past and would gladly do that, but can't now as GOOD won't function on a rooted device. Doing a factory reset is just a giant headache, even with the backup and syncing solutions available, and then would require me bothering my IT department for a new PIN for GOOD.

Needless to say, this is infuriating. Apple would never let a phone out into the wild with such an obvious software bug, and if they did, they'd issue a fix rapidly. Yes, I can hear the argument now...but it took Apple a whole product cycle to introduce copy/paste! Yes it did, but when they did it was perfect with no problems since. Yes, Apple is a money-printing machine, and too many of their customers are mindless drones, but that being said, I feel Samsung and too many Android manufacturers are just fine putting out problematic devices and either leaving consumers hanging until the next major software update (Jelly Bean in this case) or the next generation of device.

Guys, we might bemoan the stale state of iOS, the lack of NFC, strange decision regarding the screen, the abysmal software that is iTunes, a dock connector that will now force mass spending on replacements for accessories, or a decision not to go with a bigger battery for the sake of a millimeter of thickness, but now Samsung has driven this consumer to reconsider switching back to his iPhone 4s just to get the most simplistic and core functionality back. Is that good business? Does that inspire confidence in the future of the platform? Today, after being very happy for a month on the S3, I'm truly saddened by the state of the Android camp once again.
 
Re the references to a "possibly fantastic" CPU, if you look at the Iphone website under "Tech Specs" it says it has an A6 CPU but NO details - dual or quad core, speeds etc.
The phone is on pre order now, and ready to be shipped, so why are they so coy about what is under the hood? If it is a "fantastic" CPU surely that would make it sell even better? I find it slightly bizarre that people are prepared to shell out several hundred pounds/dollars on a phone simply because of a promise "it will be even better than the previous models"!

Apple (United Kingdom) - iPhone 5 - View all the technical specifications.

Yep, I would never buy a new phone without knowing all the specs.

Without knowing details of the Memory, CPU and GPU they've basically buying it blind, just going on pure faith that it will just be better.

Scary. :)
 
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