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Apple sues HTC and said mostly because of Nexus One & Moto Droid & HTC Droid Eris

I had an IPhone for about a month. Before that I had a T-Mobile My Touch. Yes, I will agree that the Iphone was a nice phone, however it was highly restrictive to what it could do. So after switching back to Android my "mobile phone" life seemed a whole better than it did when I had the IPhone. Android is the way to go, and apple knows this. They know Android will surpass them, and this is why they are suing now. Give Google the same amount of time Apple has had developing and making their Iphone, with Android, and everybody who has and Iphone, which is high amount of people cell phone users in America, will convert over. Apple knows this and they are running scared. Hail Google! Hail Android.
 
OfTheDamned said:
Also, for your reading pleasure:

Android Growing RIDICULOUSLY Faster Than All Other Mobile Platforms (In the US) | Android Phone Fans
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Yes statistics can look awesome when you start from zero....

Among mobile operating systems, Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) Android had the best year, since it was starting from near zero. It exploded from 0.5 percent market share to 3.9 percent year-over-year. Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL) iPhone OS grew from 8.2 percent to 14.4 percent year-over-year and RIM's BlackBerry jumped from 16.6 to 19.9 percent.
 
itmike said:
I'm not no lawyer but in the matter of the screen lock couldn't they argue its a user defined pattern versus a preset pattern. That essentially makes it different. We all know that Jobs isn't going to give iphone users the ability to change their lock pattern on their iphones. He's to much of a control freak for that.
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I highly doubt Mr. Jobs gives a flying f*(# about lock patterns on phones. He just wants his money for his IP.
 
mobimop said:
Yeah 8M iPhones sell a quarter so yes millions..

"Today Goldman Sachs told The Wall Street Journal that Google's initial sales figures were disappointing and that it is expecting Google to sell just 1 million Android-powered Nexus Ones this year. That's down from the original 3.5 million in sales the firm first projected."
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That's just N1s. Did you check out the post/link with the data on all five principals in the smart phone market? I'm not going to look around and find it for you, but Apple was running a very distant #4.

I was surprised, having thought their iPhone was heads above these Androids in sales because they've been out so long.
 
The way I look at it, the other cellphone manufacturers have so many patents that by the time all is said and done.... Google and the Manufacturers can avoid Apple's patents and still produce phones, but Apple won't be able to produce a phone that can in any way be turned on, or transmit voice and data...
 
byteware said:
The way I look at it, the other cellphone manufacturers have so many patents that by the time all is said and done.... Google and the Manufacturers can avoid Apple's patents and still produce phones, but Apple won't be able to produce a phone that can in any way be turned on, or transmit voice and data...
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Ah. Thus the iPad strategy. :D
 
byteware said:
Unlocking a touchscreen for use... is obvious. Otherwise... we would be pocket dialing, gaming, etc...

Doing anything with a touchscreen requires a gesture... it's how we've done things with touchscreens since they've been around.
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As I said, obviousness becomes clear with hindsight. I seem to recall that, prior to the iPhone, IIRC all smartphones (Windows Mobile, Palm OS, Symbian, etc.) with toucscreens unlocked not with a touch gesture like that, but with some sort of tapped (or typed) passcode or PIN number.

It may be that this particular patent will be invalidated, but neither you nor I appear to have the professional expertise to declare that with any sort of authority. We'll see what happens.

Actually, it will be interesting to see how the Supreme Court rules in the Bilski case. That should be coming in a few months. This may make these sorts of cases far harder to prosecute depending on how the court rules.
 
Frisco said:
That's just N1s. Did you check out the post/link with the data on all five principals in the smart phone market? I'm not going to look around and find it for you, but Apple was running a very distant #4.

I was surprised, having thought their iPhone was heads above these Androids in sales because they've been out so long.
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You can add up all of the Android manufactures still behind Apple in sales. I was just pointing out that even the so called "iPhone" killer is severely lagging in sales.
 
Frisco said:
Hmm... a newer article provides more insight.. going both ways.. one quote that jumped out at me:

"Apple may find itself lining up too many enemies -- HTC, Motorola, Google, Microsoft -- for its own good. "Together, these companies bring to bear an impressive arsenal of IP, money, and public relations savvy, and with it the ability to administer considerable pain," Reiner said."

Some quotes in this article are in common with the originally linked article by the OP.

The article link:

Apple Ready to Rumble with Rival Smartphone Makers - www.enterprisemobiletoday.com
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Very valid point. If you notice, Apple isn't touching Palm and its because really, Palm could shut them down, considering touch technology PERIOD came from Palm originally.

The ONLY reason Apple is suing HTC is because HTC is one of the major manufacturers of Android devices and they know that Android is the wave of the future and is a direct threat to them. By Android being open to whosoever will, it hurts Apple because for what they charge and keep a tight reign on, Android will let you do it freely.

I think the lawsuit is gonna get dismissed for being frivilous and Apple is gonna suffer a major embarassment behind this.
 
mobimop said:
You can add up all of the Android manufactures still behind Apple in sales. I was just pointing out that even the so called "iPhone" killer is severely lagging in sales.
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For now.... Change is inevitable.

At one time, the RIM Blackberry was behind the Motorola RAZR, not anymore...
 
GoldenBlaze said:
Very valid point. If you notice, Apple isn't touching Palm and its because really, Palm could shut them down, considering touch technology PERIOD came from Palm originally.

The ONLY reason Apple is suing HTC is because HTC is one of the major manufacturers of Android devices and they know that Android is the wave of the future and is a direct threat to them. By Android being open to whosoever will, it hurts Apple because for what they charge and keep a tight reign on, Android will let you do it freely.

I think the lawsuit is gonna get dismissed for being frivilous and Apple is gonna suffer a major embarassment behind this.
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Personally, Apple and Verizon are probably in cahoots with one another. They want to shut Google down from ever entering the cell phone racket. So they go after HTC like a mob guy that bust knee caps. Don't kill them just remind them that they run this block. No way does Verizon and Apple allow Google to compete using the nexus one and their forthcoming VoIP service. That would literally CRUSH and DESTROY cell phone providers.
 
Droidcula said:
Personally, Apple and Verizon are probably in cahoots with one another. They want to shut Google down from ever entering the cell phone racket. So they go after HTC like a mob guy that bust knee caps. Don't kill them just remind them that they run this block. No way does Verizon and Apple allow Google to compete using the nexus one and their forthcoming VoIP service. That would literally CRUSH and DESTROY cell phone providers.
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Verizon is selling HTC devices and has plans to sell the Nexus. Plus, Verizon is already talking about plans for voip service when the go to lte.

I know you got upset before about someone making you sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this post makes it sound like are already wearing a foil hat.
 
OfTheDamned said:
Verizon is selling HTC devices and has plans to sell the Nexus. Plus, Verizon is already talking about plans for voip service when the go to lte.

I know you got upset before about someone making you sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this post makes it sound like are already wearing a foil hat.
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+1

you dont build a 100mil house (ad campaign) to destroy it!
apple is losing period. thats why this is happening.
 
The problem is that if the iPhone is only available on 1 carrier here. If It goes to multiple carries, watch it easily over-take droid. If they are stupid and keep exclusive to AT&T, then yes, Android will ultimately win out since it's on all carriers.
 
W4LLY said:
The problem is that if the iPhone is only available on 1 carrier here. If It goes to multiple carries, watch it easily over-take droid. If they are stupid and keep exclusive to AT&T, then yes, Android will ultimately win out since it's on all carriers.
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I agree with that.

And in the mix are several Android devices vs basically one iPhone and its one manufacturer (older versions and 3GS are slightly different, but still the iPhone).

Not to mention that the Android (as well as a few others such as the Samsumg Instinct and Palm) are touted as "iPhone killers," which, in my opinion elevates the iPhone to even higher status in the eyes of many device shoppers.

We sure don't see the iPhone marketed as an "Android killer."
 
Frisco said:
I agree with that.

And in the mix are Palm and several Android devices vs basically one iPhone and its one manufacturer (older versions and 3GS are slightly different, but still the iPhone).

Not to mention that the Android (and even a few others such as the Samsumg Instinct) are touted as "iPhone killers," which, in my opinion elevates the iPhone to even higher status in the eyes of many device shoppers.

We sure don't see the iPhone marketed as an "Android killer."
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I have never understood the whole killer thing with phones. Why does one phone need to kill another? There is obviously a market for all these phones and while I have never been a fan of the iPhone I don't see a need to kill it. I agree with what Frisco said here though. All this mentality does is elevate the iPhone in status and make it look better. If it has to be killed the it must be on top, right? Meanwhile the average consumer has no idea of the other devices that are out there. All that said, I would love to see a device that matches the iPhone in looks as well as hardware running android to see what people chose.
 
Regardless of what we want to say, Apple set's the bar. Android has been doing an excellent job of reaching that bar, which is why Apple is all on edge now because now they can't just SIT and IDLE and control the market. They can't keep features from us that are rightfully ours. I mean, my EnV could record video and it took them 3 iPhones to officially have that.

What ever phone Apple comes out with next, WiLL be the phone to beat, hence the term "iPhone killer". Just like the iPod, when you think of smartphone, sadly, because of it's exclusivity and hype, the iPhone is king. Does anyone really use other MP3 players besides iPods? Don't you dare mention a Zune, lol.

I try and be as devils advocate as possible on this, being as I am THE Apple-Droid :P
 
Well, the iPhone set the bar a few years ago; it was quite the hype when it first came out and it seems to have lived up to it, minus the AT&T glitches and a few bumps here and there with the device.

But other OS manufacturers have responded well. I now view the iPhone as another multi-tasking hand held device among many, some superior to it.
 
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