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Help Apps downloaded but wont install

Sorry.. Forgot to write that I tried to remove the SD-card and reboot, but didn't make any difference!!

I did a factory reset a while ago, so I'm aware that I lose everything, but I'll make a backup-file before that.. Maybe the phone needs it anyways!

Well.. Guess we'll talk more tomorrow! ;)
 
As annoying as it may be, I think a factory reset is the better option here. Getting root access and just poking around in the system folders might not be the best idea.

But yeah, apps are stored in /system/app/*appname*.apk. Paid apps might be stored somewhere different, but I can't remember the path for that folder. Something to do with private.
 
Xyro said:
As annoying as it may be, I think a factory reset is the better option here. Getting root access and just poking around in the system folders might not be the best idea.

But yeah, apps are stored in /system/app/*appname*.apk. Paid apps might be stored somewhere different, but I can't remember the path for that folder. Something to do with private.
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Xyro thats the place where they are installed or no? I dont know why but I think it downloads them first to the SD then installs them there. (SD/Download)

What I kinda hope from his root :P . Is that he could erase market data. Even maybe install the market from 2.2 ! OH

DO THAT NOW :D I think slug posted here a link to the newest market from paul. Not sure what you need to install it . But might be worth a shot :P (not sure root is needed, but if you gonna do a factory , you can try :D)

EDIT:_ This migh tbe it http://android.modaco.com/content/software/319798/updated-2-2-style-market-for-android-2-1/
 
nedamdam said:
Xyro thats the place where they are installed or no? I dont know why but I think it downloads them first to the SD then installs them there. (SD/Download)
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I've certainly never heard anything like that. Why would they bother having a secured part of the internal memory to store protected paid apps (to try to curb piracy) and then decide to store them on the vulnerable sdcard? As far as I'm aware sdcard/download(s) is just for the stock browser's downloaded files.

But that new market thingy is a good idea :)
 
Xyro said:
As far as I'm aware sdcard/download(s) is just for the stock browser's downloaded files.
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Nope, the app is downloaded from the Market to /sdcard/download, installed from there then deleted. If the installation stalls and you cancel the file can usually still be found there and manually installed.
 
Weird =/

Kinda defeats the point of having a place for 'protected' apps on the internal memory.
 
Xyro said:
Weird =/

Kinda defeats the point of having a place for 'protected' apps on the internal memory.
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Why? Normal (non root) ppl wont know its there and they have to pay for it. Super Humans (root ppl) know many other ways of doing many things (I cant even write here)

:) Btw lots of times I do have have in that directory download number number files :D cuz of the stupid market bugs.

And to the protected apps, I guess you mean the ones with "purchased" . They are always protected for you on the google market once you buy them :) and you can redownload. The data of the apps isnt stored in that directory.

as you even know google can erase apps from your device remotely :) so I wouldnt worry of ppl stealing apps that way.
 
On my Samsung Vibrant (Android 2.1, not rooted) I had the same problem with an app showing as "Installing" and found a way to solve this:
- Goto Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications
- Select Market
- Do a "Force stop" and a "Clear cache" as described in some posts above
- do an "Uninstall updates" and confirm the action
- Open the market app and select Menu -> Downloads
- Your app may still show up in the list, but now should be marked as installable

-> The only thing I don't know about this method is, if it forced a downgrad on my Market app. After the "Uninstall updates" it shows the version as 2007 unter "Manage Applications -> Market", but I'm not sure, if I had a higher version before. I certainly don't get an update notification within the Market app itself.
Could someone who hasn't downgraded their Market app yet, please let me know, what version they see.

Thanks,
Bernhard
 
Well.. I think the problem is solved now!! I just did a backup and reset the whole thing.. It's a nice way of cleaning up the memory (which the Hero doesn't have too much of), and get a clean start.. Luckily I could buy a backup-app without the same bug happening to that app! So right now I'm restoring the whole thing...

Just hope it doesn't happen again while installing all my apps from before the reset! ;) I'll guarantee that you'll hear from me again if that happens!!

@tangofan: I could not force stop my market.. The "button" was greyed out, so no way I could do that.. I was going to uninstall the updates and stuff too, but since I didn't have a way of force stopping the market, I was kinda stuck! And I'll check my market-version as soon as my phone is back running OK! I didn't uninstall anything, and the Market should be the version it's supposed to be!

Just have a question about a rooted phone! Are you able to make shell-scripts (for those of you that know Linux), or do you just have a regular shell without posibilities for scripts? I'm this close to rooting the phone now, as Linux is my main OS on my computer.. Want to see what I can and can't do on the phone..If I get another bug like this, I'll open a can of "hackass" on the phone! ;)
 
Not too familiar with linux my self, but I believe you can make scripts to run in the android terminal yeah, if that's what you mean?

I used one that checked if apps2sd was running.
 
Spork, once rooted all you need is a terminal app installed on the handset and you can run shell scripts direct. Also check out GScript in the Market. This app lets you run shell scripts from within Android with a single 'click'.
 
@tangofan: My Market-version is 2007 too on my vanilla (non-modified) Hero.. And I've never deleted the updates, so I shouuld have the newest version for our mobile.

I really like the thought of creating scripts on my mobile, so I might try that.. The best would be if I could find out what process that needs to be killed if the Market hangs again, and then make a script that checks and kills the app if needed! Really annoying if it happens again and I have to do a factory reset again.. That's just not happening! ;)
 
@Spork, Thanks for the info.

What software do you use for your backups? And does it work with a non-rooted phone? I'm also looking for a backup software that would make a factory-reset and especially the sub-sequent re-configuration relatively painless.

Bernhard
 
I'm using MyBackup Pro right now. When I reset my phone the first time, I used the trial version. That one is free and fully functional for 30 days, so that gives you a good time to test the app. It works as well as a backup-app can do on a non-rooted phone. It also takes a backup of your Scenes, but more 90% than 100%.. Still way better than 0%! ;)

The drawback of a non-rooted phone is that you need to make backup / export settings and documents from your programs yourself. If you have a rooted phone (which I haven't right now), the backup app (Titanium and more) can backup data from apps automatically.

You could buy the app, backup / reset / restore, and then ask for a refund! It's not a nice way doing it I guess (I support buying good apps), but it's possible.. But try the trial version for 30 days first!

Just remember.. If you sync your calendar and contacts with your Google-account, make a backup of it (just in case), but do not restore!! If you do, you'll get double entries in your calendar and contacts. Your phone will ask you if you want to delete the extra set of contacts, but you'll probably get an error that your trying to delete too many contacts!

So:
1. Install MyBackup trial version
2. Export / backup all your data and documents wherever the apps allow you to,
3. Backup everything (data and apps) with MyBackup (another good free app for backing up non-protected apps is OnTheFly)
4. Force reset
5. Restore all data except contacts and calendar (if synced with Google)

The reason you should backup your apps is that I like old versions of some apps. Mainly because some have become too advanced or big, so I still use the old versions. This way you can revert the old and nice versions of those apps..

I hope this might help you in case you want to reset your phone! :)
 
A question mybackup pro doesnt connect the apps witht eh market right? So you still loose the update capability?

Its a long time since I did a factory reset. But I remember that
1. it didnt work
2. made my phone unusable :D (settings were restored partly and that 90 percent you are speaking of made me wanna reconfigure from 0 to 100 :P, in my case 90 percent was worse then 0)
3. no apps in market download section

so for a non rooter. Manual I had to go :P . But was a long time maybe it got better
maybe just download apps manually and then apply data from mybackup. but not use the restore apps from there if you dont want to loose market updates

EDIT: Nothing beats a good old nandroid (or root + its backup tools)
 
Absolutely.. The manually installed apps doesn't show up in the Market, but for me it's a way of keeping old versions I want. I install those manually and don't get reminders for updating them, and the rest is installed manually through the Market.. So for non-rooted, it does create an installation job afterwards!!

So for all the apps you want to update, use the market, but for all the apps you want to leave out of the Market, create a backup and do a manual installation! ;)

But I guess my next backup will be with Titanium or something similar.. ;)
 
After I learned that you can script with a regular terminal, that kinda did it for me! ;) I just have to get my phone back up running properly (been away for the day), so I guess I'll look into it tomorrow!

One app from the market stopped after download but before install again now, but luckily just for 10 minutes or so.. I thought I had to go through the same again! So next time, I'll poke through the system trying to fix it without a reset! ;)
 
I never encountered that problem you had. But I saw some mentioning about it :) . So if you make some fix script/easy app . Post it here :) so more can be helped.
 
i too had the similar problem.
i think its something to do with the CAMERA ZOOM FX.
before downloading it...i had 7 to 8 apps working fine.. but when i installed zoom fx...the installation continued for eternity.
Then after a reboot....none of the apps work....
infact i was unable to install a single app
 
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