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Help apps restarting themselves after force stop.
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Petrah
Psychotic Female
There are apps you can get to constantly kill those apps, but keep in mind that it eats your system resources for the apps to keep turning themselves back on. It also eats your battery.
There are plenty if misbehaving apps out there. The best solution is to get rid of them. It's a hard choice sometimes, but after getting rid of some of my apps that keep restarting themselves (facebook) my phone runs so much faster.
People who claim that facebook running all the time and sitting in my memory is a good thing are idiots.
I understand that keeping an app in memory may make it start faster, but your phone isn't that far from your computer. How would your computer perform if you kept every application open? Sure, they would all "open" faster. But each one that refuses to close decreases performance because your processor has to keep an open thread for them. There is absolutely no way a running service will not slow down your phone in some way.
It's the same concept of those programs you see in the bottom right-hand corner of your PC. The ones that have a "quick-start" service running. Sure, one or two will make those start fast, but what if every single program on your PC had one of those little quick-start apps going? Nobody starts faster if everybody wants to start faster.
Android would do a good job of managing memory, if every app played by the rules. But they don't. Lots of them bully the others, telling the OS that their bullshit calculations are more important than the other guys, and by the way "it's so important I can never turn off."
I understand that android has a slightly different architecture from PCs but apps that will not turn off are bad.
People who claim that facebook running all the time and sitting in my memory is a good thing are idiots.
I understand that keeping an app in memory may make it start faster, but your phone isn't that far from your computer. How would your computer perform if you kept every application open? Sure, they would all "open" faster. But each one that refuses to close decreases performance because your processor has to keep an open thread for them. There is absolutely no way a running service will not slow down your phone in some way.
It's the same concept of those programs you see in the bottom right-hand corner of your PC. The ones that have a "quick-start" service running. Sure, one or two will make those start fast, but what if every single program on your PC had one of those little quick-start apps going? Nobody starts faster if everybody wants to start faster.
Android would do a good job of managing memory, if every app played by the rules. But they don't. Lots of them bully the others, telling the OS that their bullshit calculations are more important than the other guys, and by the way "it's so important I can never turn off."
I understand that android has a slightly different architecture from PCs but apps that will not turn off are bad.
Trip9
Newbie
There are apps you can get to constantly kill those apps, but keep in mind that it eats your system resources for the apps to keep turning themselves back on. It also eats your battery.
Don't get me wrong. I have a CS & EE degree with 30+ yrs experience in real time systems. What I'm saying is there are conditions available to autostart apps that programmers use inappropriately. To counter that, there are apps that allow you to override these autostart conditions for individual apps. Of course Google Play store is exempt from autostart overrides and can run whenever... grooveIP will autostart whenever you install an app.
I still get 2 days per charge with a LWP running full time and 177 installed apps.
Petrah
Psychotic Female
riggerman0421
Well-Known Member
If you're rooted, you can control the autostart settings for apps. There a couple apps I have found that work rather well. Try "autostarts" or "Gemini App Manager". With either of these apps and a rooted phone you can view and change the individual auto start conditions of each app on your device.
AndyOpie150
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The best app to have to keep an app from auto starting is LBE Privacy Guard.
With it you can control the permissions an app has.
The biggest reason an app auto starts is to communicate with it's developer, or Google, or the spam server the developer used to put money in their pocket. If you do not allow any of these types of permissions then you will have a lot fewer apps auto starting.
Air push Detector is an app that will show you what apps are spamming.
Out of 180 something apps I have only seven that are considered running apps.
With it you can control the permissions an app has.
The biggest reason an app auto starts is to communicate with it's developer, or Google, or the spam server the developer used to put money in their pocket. If you do not allow any of these types of permissions then you will have a lot fewer apps auto starting.
Air push Detector is an app that will show you what apps are spamming.
Out of 180 something apps I have only seven that are considered running apps.
matttclark
Lurker
New guy here, recently bought my daughter her first tablet and this issue is driving me nuts. Thanks for the discussion and info here folks, there are a lot of posts on this topic on the web with very little information, this has some useful info.
For some its about battery life others think its a memory problem but I have to agree with Trip 9 and AndyOpie150.... It's my device, I should have the control over these things. Privacy is a huge issue but apparently not one of the Android O/S design concerns, how sad.
Ardchoille, thanks to your explanation I understand better how the o/s is supposed to work but as expressed by a couple of other posters, theory and reality don't always go together.
To all the others talking about battery drain it looks like your suspicions have been confirmed. I am new so I can't post the link. However do a web search on:
"The Surprising Reason Your Phone's Battery Life Drains"
There was a study from Purdue university specifically on Android:
It looks like my only option is to root her tablet and try some of the apps mentioned <sigh>.
For some its about battery life others think its a memory problem but I have to agree with Trip 9 and AndyOpie150.... It's my device, I should have the control over these things. Privacy is a huge issue but apparently not one of the Android O/S design concerns, how sad.
Ardchoille, thanks to your explanation I understand better how the o/s is supposed to work but as expressed by a couple of other posters, theory and reality don't always go together.
To all the others talking about battery drain it looks like your suspicions have been confirmed. I am new so I can't post the link. However do a web search on:
"The Surprising Reason Your Phone's Battery Life Drains"
There was a study from Purdue university specifically on Android:
It looks like my only option is to root her tablet and try some of the apps mentioned <sigh>.