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Are foodies killing rock n roll?

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breadnatty08

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Interesting article from the Post:
Are foodies quietly killing rock-and-roll? - The Washington Post

(leading quote is from the owner of the restaurant I work for, fwiw)

I think it's pretty spot on. Do I know any local bands in DC? Nah.
Do I know the names of most of the top restaurants, and often their chefs' names? Yep.
Granted, I'm in the industry and a complete foodie. But, is this a problem? Is it getting in the way of other interests be them music, arts, outdoors, whatnot?
 
Some of us believe you eat to live.
A veggie burger and frijoles with jalapeno are good any time. It needs to be nuked. Takes too damn long to cook. I'd rather be outside with a cup of coffee.
Restaurants are boring.
 
i never equated food with rock music to be honest with you. i think with the advent of the food network, top chef, and iron chef would be the cause of the rise of foodies. i doubt that it has anything to do with rock declining. i think it has more to do with the quality of good music being made today then in the past as well as the internet(streaming/mp3 sharing/piracy) is more of the reason why the record industry is declining.

edit: nice name change there....breadnatty08
 
Michael Pollan stated, IMO, pretty correctly not too long ago.
With the rise of Top Chef, Food Network, Blogs and Yelp to an extent, it has become this huge thing to be a foodie. On the flip side, folks just still aren't cooking at home anymore!
It's a "race" of sorts to try all the new trends, the newest restaurants much like it is/was to go to all the rock concerts. I just think there's a pretty close correlation between the two. :)
And yeah, I'm plenty guilty of doing it myself. :p
 
No wonder we have an obesity epidemic.

Oldcook : medieval cookery, principles and techniques

So what all these people are doing is reinventing something originally used to hide bad food.

Sauces, etc. were used around our house to disguise meat that was going bad. My mother cooked the s**t out of it to kill germs, managed to get it so you could chew it, then hid the taste with some kind of sauce. So our tradition was older than the foodies. I've had waiters argue when I said "no sauce". You do when I asked you not to, I'll find a place to wash the sauce off before I eat it.

NB:
Quilting, photography, astronomy and birdwatching don't add calories.
 
I think it's all down to cash: the profile of the music industry has dropped as its profitability has dropped. You can still make money with food and restaurants.

Plus, the population is getting older - you lose interest in pop music while you get a lot more interested in good food :D
 
Concert Tickets - $150 (and still crappy seats)
Parking - $20
Beer - $12-15 (a pop)
Babysitter $75 (if you have kids)
Gas -$10-20
***This is not even including food (whether at the venue or beforehand).
You are looking at a $500 - $700 night for 2 people.
 
Same amount of money -
4 - 5 day trip to Utah including motel. (We stay where they have MW and fridge. Hit City Market)

Sit under a huge Cottonwood in Moonflower Canyon - free
Have Parks pass
Sit in overlook in either Canyonlands or Arches and enjoy scenery. Get close an personal with rocks using camera.
Sit by the Colorado River on hwy 128 - free
Take telescope up to Arches LaSal overlook. Watch the Milky Way. Hunt for clusters and galaxies. Just plain enjoy the view - priceless.
 
It takes all types to make the world go round.

Let the foodies enjoy their food, and let the rock heads enjoy their music. ;)

Personally I enjoy both at the same time, but I'm a rebel! :D
 
I don't see any correlation between the two. The people who actively seek out live local music has always been a minority, and skews young. Everyone has to eat. I think people now listen to more music than ever, it's the record companies fault they dropped the ball when it came to monetizing it. Apple says thanks. Sure, a lot of new restaurants pop up, and a vast majority will fail within two years. I think the whole foodie thing is a fad. The hipsters today might obsess over their Twitter feed to chase down the food truck where they can buy a $10 "gourmet" cupcake, but in a few years they will have kids and no longer have the time or energy to chase down their dinner. The next wave of trendy people will find a new thing, whatever it may be. I'm pretty sure music will still be around.
 
Gmash said:
I don't see any correlation between the two
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I can see a correlation in that one has gone down while the other appears to have gone up however, as any fule kno, correlation does not equal causation: I certainly don't believe that food programs getting more popular caused live music to get less popular.

You're absolutely right that fashions change and music won't be going away. Trendy restos probably won't disappear altogether either - though the restos that are trendy today almost certainly will.
 
High Fashion label worship hasn't gone away, so I'd think some of the restaurants would survive. The restaurants that can serve a trendy, standard and vegetarian type menu that all taste good should do well.

Music and musicals will survive. The choice of music is usually relative to age.

The idiots will find other ways to pamper themselves.
 
No doubt that some of the trendy restaurants will survive, probably the ones that deserve to. It is just a fact of life in general that most new restaurants don't make it. It's a tough business.
 
Beyond the personal decision of how to distribute disposable income aspect, there's no correlation between the two. Absolute greed, technology and over the top abuse of customer and artist are what's killing the music industry as we know it (and good riddance!), not food (or foodies).

When it comes to money, I'm more inclined to pay $150 for a good meal than the same for a concert ticket. At least at the end of the 'event", I've had a good meal. Concert prices have outstripped cost of living increases by massive amounts for years. Food has not. Simply put, for me a main stream concert is a really poor value.
 
Just bought tickets to a concert this summer (actually on our wedding anniversary!). Price wasn't terrible, $45ea. But why all the fees? What does that entail? We ordered them will-call so it's not like there's anything involved.
I can stomach taxes on a meal (and tip, when deserved), but $18 on top of a $45 ticket, for what?
 
To be able to charge an extra $18 while advertising a price of $45. A cunning marketing ploy enthusiastically embraced by the low cost airlines over the years. And amazingly, no-one has ever seen through it .. :rolleyes:

Have to say, that is another of the reasons I hate going to any kind of theatre. The main reason is that, evidence from London's Victorian theatres would suggest that Victorians did not possess legs. Unless they were able to pay over $150 a ticket.
 
What has killed rock music is a major lack of talent. There are not people out there inventing a sound anymore now its just copy cats and pop artist. It would seem that experimentation is no longer the cool thing to do. All the greats experimented with the music and had a deep connection to the music they were putting out. If anything the Record companies killed Rock n Roll. They traded talent for cold hard cash
 
argedion said:
What has killed rock music is a major lack of talent. There are not people out there inventing a sound anymore now its just copy cats and pop artist. It would seem that experimentation is no longer the cool thing to do. All the greats experimented with the music and had a deep connection to the music they were putting out. If anything the Record companies killed Rock n Roll. They traded talent for cold hard cash
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Haha! Another close correlation with food and cooking. :)
Yeah, I know there are folks like Jose Andres, Feran Adria, Grant Achatz etc. who are making some pretty extraordinary food these days using cutting edge techniques. But, when it's all boiled down (no pun intended ;)), there's not a whole lot being "invented" in cooking. For centuries, chefs have compiled the same ingredients in dishes. Now, it's more about execution. I consider it an art just like painting or making music. You know how to play the guitar, how to paint, make a soup, but can you tie it together in an innovative way? ")
 
argedion said:
What has killed rock music is a major lack of talent. There are not people out there inventing a sound anymore now its just copy cats and pop artist. It would seem that experimentation is no longer the cool thing to do. All the greats experimented with the music and had a deep connection to the music they were putting out. If anything the Record companies killed Rock n Roll. They traded talent for cold hard cash
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And "American Idol"
 
argedion said:
major lack of talent
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Ricky Babalu said:
And "American Idol"
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.. isnt' that the same thing ..?

breadnatty08 said:
Yeah, I know there are folks like Jose Andres, Feran Adria, Grant Achatz etc. who are making some pretty extraordinary food these days using cutting edge techniques. But, when it's all boiled down (no pun intended ;)), there's not a whole lot being "invented" in cooking. For centuries, chefs have compiled the same ingredients in dishes. Now, it's more about execution. I consider it an art just like painting or making music. You know how to play the guitar, how to paint, make a soup, but can you tie it together in an innovative way? ")
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True, though in their earlier days Adria, Roca and the people they inspired were very much about inventing new ways of preparing food - or sometimes using other's inventions in novel ways.

You're right that they do seem to have moved away from that these days: I went to Adria's new place a month or two back and the 'micro-gastronomy' stuff was almost completely absent - or at least, maybe it's now so standard (e.g. sous vide) that it doesn't seem that novel anymore :D
 
zuben el genub said:
They may be killing Rock N Roll, but their Instagram pics are leading to arrests.

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