zombies8mybrain
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PC, while Mac's OS is decent I would rather not over pay for hardware.
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Palmetto Fellow
Android Expert
Now that Mac OS runs on Intel, I think everything is basically a PC...
Unless we are still equating PC with Microsoft OS...
In that case, I am a PC user.
Am I mistaken...Can't you install Mac OS on any standard PC these days?
Unless we are still equating PC with Microsoft OS...
In that case, I am a PC user.
Am I mistaken...Can't you install Mac OS on any standard PC these days?
tommy_ed
Android Expert
For the most part, yes. Usually certain hardware is preferred though (Intel/Nvidia) to get the most compatibility.
harukasan73
Android Enthusiast
Shoot! I'm not in a band, and I have a mac, oh my goodness I shall have to join a band immediately in order to keep using my mac! lol J/K
I use a mac with vmware installed, so if I have to, I will switch over to windows xp. Also My mac is very customizable, It does exactly what I need it to do. I can watch all the furry porn I want on it. I also have a windows 7 machine that breaks and needs to be defragged, or blown away every other month. So I guess Im a pc/mac/droid person.... actually I dont care what anyone uses, as long as they dont disrespect my own personal preferences.
Ah, the perfect example of someone who is completely computer illiterate.
harukasan73
Android Enthusiast
Ah, no sorry you are wrong. Im using the language that my husband uses, and he is a senior software engineer, with a masters degree (that would be from an actual physical college) in computer science, so you cant tell me I dont know what I am talking about. Defragged means defragmented, blown away means the damn thing gave me the blue screen of death, so it needed to be completely formatted (blown away) and reinstalled, so do not tell me I have no Idea what I am saying, just because I say it differently, does not mean I dont know what I am talking about. Way to be a jerk.
tommy_ed
Android Expert
just because your husband knows something, doesn't mean you do. If my dad was a surgeon, would you trust ME to do a heart transplant on you? it doesnt work like that
and if your computer gets the blue screen every other month, YOU are doing something wrong, because that's NOT normal. I have had windows 7 running on my laptop since i bought it in april and have not had any problems on it to date. Sounds like a user error 
harukasan73
Android Enthusiast
Well my husband has been teaching me this stuff for over 12 years now, and if you want I can ship my piece of crap windows machine to you, and you can see the darn thing is always messed up, so I am afraid that you are wrong once again, you could not possibly know what it is exactly that I know, you dont know me from Jesus, so you can stop assuming I am stupid. it is not a user error, and also that would be called a spacer error, you know the space between the chair and the keyboard. so if you know so much about me, do tell... what sort of education have I had? hmmmm? *hands on hips* 
Pryomancer
Android Enthusiast
Well my husband has been teaching me this stuff for over 12 years now, and if you want I can ship my piece of crap windows machine to you, and you can see the darn thing is always messed up, so I am afraid that you are wrong once again, you could not possibly know what it is exactly that I know, you dont know me from Jesus, so you can stop assuming I am stupid. it is not a user error, and also that would be called a spacer error, you know the space between the chair and the keyboard. so if you know so much about me, do tell... what sort of education have I had? hmmmm? *hands on hips*
Windows 7 runs fine for the vast majority. Clearly they're all wrong, then.
harukasan73
Android Enthusiast
yeah okay whatever, I give up.
Now that the childish yet inevitable fanboy debate is over...
I use Arch Linux. I've learned a lot by using it and setting it up. For those that don't know, Arch Linux is little more than a base set of programs to allow your computer to run with minimal function. It's a kernel, package manager, and not much more. There's no graphical interface after install, just a terminal (which is like running DOS, sort of, for you windows users reading this). You build your system up from that base. Any programs you download from the package manager (think of it like Android's market app) are completely vanilla, unmodified. If you want, for example, to have a login window appear at startup, you would need to install it yourself and go into system boot files with a text editor and add an entry to your bootup process. This would be AFTER installing all the neccessary programs that would allow graphical systems to run on your computer.
I use Openbox as my window manager, conky as my system monitor, tint as my taskbar, and xcompmgr for my eyecandy. Uses about 45MB of RAM on average if I'm not running anything.
Good god, I'm so geeky.
I use Arch Linux. I've learned a lot by using it and setting it up. For those that don't know, Arch Linux is little more than a base set of programs to allow your computer to run with minimal function. It's a kernel, package manager, and not much more. There's no graphical interface after install, just a terminal (which is like running DOS, sort of, for you windows users reading this). You build your system up from that base. Any programs you download from the package manager (think of it like Android's market app) are completely vanilla, unmodified. If you want, for example, to have a login window appear at startup, you would need to install it yourself and go into system boot files with a text editor and add an entry to your bootup process. This would be AFTER installing all the neccessary programs that would allow graphical systems to run on your computer.
I use Openbox as my window manager, conky as my system monitor, tint as my taskbar, and xcompmgr for my eyecandy. Uses about 45MB of RAM on average if I'm not running anything.
Good god, I'm so geeky.
harukasan73
Android Enthusiast
I actually wasnt trying to be a fanboy/girl... I was just stating my opinion when all of a sudden I got railroaded... so I decided to be the adult, and stop arguing, because you cant win against those dumb zealot arguments, really.
Flaspeneer
Well-Known Member
Eridger: Arch Linux sounds interesting. I'm not entirely comfortable working purely with that black screen of command lines, but I'd like to be, as that's the true face of the DID robot you're dealing with.
harukasan73:
Since you have a good background, know sysadmin slang and have been taught by someone who's knowledgeable, there's no need to prove yourself to people who are having a good time cutting you down. People feel very comfortable assigning stereotypes to users based on their platform of choice. By being defensive, you're feeding that annoying impulse. But said impulse is really just another distraction to ignore.
Stop and it will stop. Focus on worthy questions, speak to those and people's teeth will soon retract.
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Personally, I own a MacBook Pro for studio work and a Samsung laptop running Ubuntu and Windows 7 for writing. For gaming, I have a 360, a PS3 and a PSP.
In the East Village, I'm usually the only person in the Wifi cafe who isn't brandishing a Macbook or an iPad.
All of which is ironic, since I've owned Macs ever since I moved to New York. Pro Tools, Performer and Logic were always mandatory if you planned on getting paid. When I began making my living, PCs could only run Logic.
Now we're all using the same hardware. ProTools isn't platform-specific and Logic has switched sides. Iterations of OSX from Tiger to Snow Leopard have been linux-flavored.
That's the thing about platform loyalty: Get stubborn and you'll find yourself married to a corpse or, worse, the parasites sucking at its marrow. Apple is both corpse and parasite, but so is Microsoft. Sony's a dictator with a short man complex. And Google is no angel.
(Have you ever noticed that Jobs always seems a bit strained when he's pretending to be harmless? Whenever he's onstage extolling the virtues of some thumb-sized designer gadget, he looks as if he's caressing a tiny creature he's on the verge of crushing.)
Among the glitterati in recording studios, I tend to pull out a Kindle -- favorite gadget among senior citizens -- which no one else in the room would dare to own. I have one because I'm also an editor. It's a lot easier reading manuscripts on a Kindle than it is carrying around printouts or squinting at a netbook or iPad for eight hours straight.
Mine looks like an 80s calculator that was flattened and blackened by an eight-wheeler and is trying to eat fewer carbs. It has that Cartman thing going on -- Cartman with DNA strands of NPR.
harukasan73:
Since you have a good background, know sysadmin slang and have been taught by someone who's knowledgeable, there's no need to prove yourself to people who are having a good time cutting you down. People feel very comfortable assigning stereotypes to users based on their platform of choice. By being defensive, you're feeding that annoying impulse. But said impulse is really just another distraction to ignore.
Stop and it will stop. Focus on worthy questions, speak to those and people's teeth will soon retract.
====================================
Personally, I own a MacBook Pro for studio work and a Samsung laptop running Ubuntu and Windows 7 for writing. For gaming, I have a 360, a PS3 and a PSP.
In the East Village, I'm usually the only person in the Wifi cafe who isn't brandishing a Macbook or an iPad.
All of which is ironic, since I've owned Macs ever since I moved to New York. Pro Tools, Performer and Logic were always mandatory if you planned on getting paid. When I began making my living, PCs could only run Logic.
Now we're all using the same hardware. ProTools isn't platform-specific and Logic has switched sides. Iterations of OSX from Tiger to Snow Leopard have been linux-flavored.
That's the thing about platform loyalty: Get stubborn and you'll find yourself married to a corpse or, worse, the parasites sucking at its marrow. Apple is both corpse and parasite, but so is Microsoft. Sony's a dictator with a short man complex. And Google is no angel.
(Have you ever noticed that Jobs always seems a bit strained when he's pretending to be harmless? Whenever he's onstage extolling the virtues of some thumb-sized designer gadget, he looks as if he's caressing a tiny creature he's on the verge of crushing.)
Among the glitterati in recording studios, I tend to pull out a Kindle -- favorite gadget among senior citizens -- which no one else in the room would dare to own. I have one because I'm also an editor. It's a lot easier reading manuscripts on a Kindle than it is carrying around printouts or squinting at a netbook or iPad for eight hours straight.
Mine looks like an 80s calculator that was flattened and blackened by an eight-wheeler and is trying to eat fewer carbs. It has that Cartman thing going on -- Cartman with DNA strands of NPR.
harukasan73
Android Enthusiast
Mac here, I own 3. A Macbook, 20 inch imac and a 27 inch imac quadcore. I also have a copy of Windows installed for when I need that for a few programs. It all comes down to personal preference. I prefer OSx for many reasons and I much prefer iMovie and iPhoto to their Window counterparts, not to mention iTunes. Only run one Mac with Windows and that has to be decked out with all the latest and greatest spyware, adware, antivirus crap I dont have to worry about on the OSx only Macs. Another huge plus for Mac. Either platform is fully capable, just comes down to preference.
Isthmus
Android Expert
No you can't. IIRC, Mac OS is set up to work with specific pieces of hardware. It won't recognize everything. This is part of the reason why guys that build hackintosh machines out of netbooks and laptops tend to be limited to a few specific models, and even then sometimes they have to patch a work around for some things to work. Now windows, on the other hand will pretty much run on anything. Linux is somewhere in the middle (it will run on anything, but sometimes you have to make it work).
Thing with retail PCs it's not Windows 7 itself, this IMO is a good reliable OS. It's all the bloatware, trials, toolbars and advertisements that retail PCs come with. The number of times I've been asked such things as 'What does Norton 360 trial mean?', 'How come my Microsoft Office no longer works, two months after buying this new PC?.
Last year I purchased a new Sony Vaio P netbook, which came preloaded with junk. I actually had to reinstall Windows from an OEM disk, just to get the thing running the way I wanted. Perhaps the 'vast majority' of PC users don't know how to do such things, they just put up with sluggish performance.
irishjoeyo
Android Enthusiast
Ditto. If you buy a PC that is pre-loaded with any Windows OS, the best thing to do is to reload Windows from the disc to eliminate all the bloatware. The difference in performance vs. out-of-the-box is night and day.
Both. I have Windows 7 running on my Mac frequently for when I need to run specific programs. Most the time it's OS X.