MisterMixelpix
Android Expert
Further update: Meebo IS a problem. With it running, the phone won't go to sleep. Switched to ebuddy and the battery is doing a fair bit better.
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[Battery] Fixes and Tips
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I have meebo and it has not caused any problems allthough i don't use it or log in that much. I got the same poor battery results with no software installed so my issue is the battery not fully charging issue.
Do you stay logged in all the time? I was curios how that woul daffect battery life
dibs ODDJOB
Android Enthusiast
That's normal. If you killed everything on your computer, only Windows OS would be running. If you killed everything on Android, the OS should be 100%. It's all the stuff that makes your phone a phone.
The phone being powered on.
Eloquence
Well-Known Member
Hello everyone,
Just wanted to share my experiences: I just got an external charger and it is great -- the batteries get COMPLETELY charged as a result (I have both stock 1300 mAh and extended seidio 1750 mAh).
It's a shame that the Incredible has a problem with charging and to full 100% while the battery is in the phone itself
Then, it's hard to get the cover off to put the battery in! If the battery door were easy to get on and off, I'd consider this a non-issue, but as it stands you have to either:
A) Do charging trick by turning off phone, charging, then unplug replug about 4-5 times so green light stays on
or
B) Charge with Desktop/Wall charger unit and then re-install battery every day.
That kind of sucks if you ask me ...
Guess we'll have to live with it for now,
-Elo
Just wanted to share my experiences: I just got an external charger and it is great -- the batteries get COMPLETELY charged as a result (I have both stock 1300 mAh and extended seidio 1750 mAh).
It's a shame that the Incredible has a problem with charging and to full 100% while the battery is in the phone itself
Then, it's hard to get the cover off to put the battery in! If the battery door were easy to get on and off, I'd consider this a non-issue, but as it stands you have to either:
A) Do charging trick by turning off phone, charging, then unplug replug about 4-5 times so green light stays on
or
B) Charge with Desktop/Wall charger unit and then re-install battery every day.
That kind of sucks if you ask me ...
Guess we'll have to live with it for now,
-Elo
Hello everyone,
Just wanted to share my experiences: I just got an external charger and it is great -- the batteries get COMPLETELY charged as a result (I have both stock 1300 mAh and extended seidio 1750 mAh).
It's a shame that the Incredible has a problem with charging and to full 100% while the battery is in the phone itself
Then, it's hard to get the cover off to put the battery in! If the battery door were easy to get on and off, I'd consider this a non-issue, but as it stands you have to either:
A) Do charging trick by turning off phone, charging, then unplug replug about 4-5 times so green light stays on
or
B) Charge with Desktop/Wall charger unit and then re-install battery every day.
That kind of sucks if you ask me ...
Guess we'll have to live with it for now,
-Elo
I have to step A, not sure why the steps are not in a sticky on the home page
Steel36
Well-Known Member
I was one of those whose battery wasn't doing great in the beginning, and tried many of the fixes, but ultimately didn't want to give up the capabilities of my smartphone. The "off" charge is the fix.
Just charge it until full, then power down, and it'll charge another 25-30 min the first time. It seems like doing this one or twice recalibrated the battery, as trying it the next couple of days wasn't necessary, as the phone would turn green again as soon as I powered it off.
Yesterday, w/ normal usage, I made it 26 hours before it the battery icon turned orange. I turn gps & mobile data off while at work due to poor service for ~8 hrs, but then it's back on for the rest of the time. This is working great for me.
Just charge it until full, then power down, and it'll charge another 25-30 min the first time. It seems like doing this one or twice recalibrated the battery, as trying it the next couple of days wasn't necessary, as the phone would turn green again as soon as I powered it off.
Yesterday, w/ normal usage, I made it 26 hours before it the battery icon turned orange. I turn gps & mobile data off while at work due to poor service for ~8 hrs, but then it's back on for the rest of the time. This is working great for me.
MisterMixelpix
Android Expert
I never log out. I leave it running constantly, and never use my laptop for messaging.
Used to be that if I started my day with 100% charge and doing the power off trick, I was done by about 12:30. So about five and a half hours. Now it's a little after noon and I've got about half my battery, meaning I'll be getting roughly nine hours of life with fairly heavy use, and I only started at about 98% after charging solely with the power on.
I have an universal charger that I use to charge my batteries. I got two identical batteries that I got ebay and I charged one battery in the phone until the green light came on and didn't unplug it and replug it again and I charged one battery in the universal charger. After they were fully charged as indicated by the phone and the universal charger I tested them both with my Multimeter. My Multimeter is not a digital one, it's the kind with a needle. The battery that I charged with my universal charger showed a 4 volt charge and the one charged by the phone was at about 3.75 volt charge. The guage on my multimeter is harder to read than a digital one would be but the battery charged buy the phone was definitely less.
nightfishing
Android Enthusiast
The numbers MUST add up to 100%. Whatever is not being used up by specific apps/tasks is listed as System.)
I am not convinced, though, that those usage numbers mean a whole lot. It's handy to see if something is using an inordinate anount of juice, but otherwise I wouldn't pay too much attention to them.
zemerick
Android Enthusiast
That's kinda what I was thinking. I'm guessing that on a few phones, there is a problem with either the charging circuit thinking the voltage is peaked ( about 4.2v ), or the that the number being reported is wrong. Result being that the phone thinks the battery is done being charged long before it really is.
TrumpetMan
Android Enthusiast
Interesting, so should I let it run completely down then recharge it? Currently I have it charging when I get home then when I get to work I plug it into my computer; it never has had a chance to run completely down.
sandman423
Newbie
I am confused how to condition the battery.
I have been told NOT To let it run out and then I have been told to let it get into red before turning it off and turning it back on.
What is the proper way to condition the battery? Should I let it die before plugging it back in? I got 14 Hours awake time when it was at the low green and still running.
I have been told NOT To let it run out and then I have been told to let it get into red before turning it off and turning it back on.
What is the proper way to condition the battery? Should I let it die before plugging it back in? I got 14 Hours awake time when it was at the low green and still running.
nightfishing
Android Enthusiast
While everyone's intent in these threads is good, there is just a ton of horrible science (and math) being thrown around.
This phone has been out for two weeks and I would venture a guess that NONE of us has used the phone "normally" for that entire time. It's a new toy and we are all treating it as such and due to that battery usage is going to be all over the place.
And while I do not *think* any of these tricks is doing harm to your phones and I *know* the placebo is working, I would suggest just using the phone for a few weeks to see how the battery usage levels off.
Keep in mind on any phone the radio is going to be a HUGE factor in battery usage and that makes comparing Sunday to Monday a bit difficult, if you were in a park by a tower on Sunday and in a building with sketchy reception on Monday. My battery usage on my bb would be effected by as much as 100% during some trips due to poor service.
This phone has been out for two weeks and I would venture a guess that NONE of us has used the phone "normally" for that entire time. It's a new toy and we are all treating it as such and due to that battery usage is going to be all over the place.
And while I do not *think* any of these tricks is doing harm to your phones and I *know* the placebo is working, I would suggest just using the phone for a few weeks to see how the battery usage levels off.
Keep in mind on any phone the radio is going to be a HUGE factor in battery usage and that makes comparing Sunday to Monday a bit difficult, if you were in a park by a tower on Sunday and in a building with sketchy reception on Monday. My battery usage on my bb would be effected by as much as 100% during some trips due to poor service.
nightfishing
Android Enthusiast
Current phone batteries do not need to be "deep charged" or run dry like their predecessors did (in the 80's?), but many of us still do out of habit (or superstition. )
They do get better after a few cycles, though, and the calibration on the phone will improve also. That is the part often over looked (and why after major OS/firmware upgrades the boards are flooded with "my battery sucks with this revision" posts that are full of baloney.)
It is almost impossible to judge how many cycles it takes, or if any particular "conditioning" system is more helpful than others because of the wide variances in phone usage during the process.
My advise? If it makes you feel like to are contributing to the betterment of your battery's quality of life, then fully charge it and run it down to zero for a couple of days. If that is not convenient (or possible) you are not doing any long term damage to the battery or phone.
I do it at least once just to see how low the phone will go without turning things off on its own. We won't get into RIM's policy on that LOL. (Phone, why would I need my phone to function as a phone?)
techfreak111
Member
I did the charge trick one time, and than when I was done I put it on airplane mode and took it off than ever since I have had great battery life without ever having to do that again thanks to whoever figured it out
nashfh
Well-Known Member
I guess no one else has noticed this issue. This morning I heard the high pitched buzz again and finished the "2nd charge" via usb into the laptop. No buzz and charged fully. Can anyone explain? Where is that battery expert guy from the old thread?
jayjay1122
Android Expert
Have you tried just charging overnight with the phone off? Maybe the phone just gets a deeper charge off than it gets on.
Actually I have and on power up it starts dropping again immediately as if I had left it on...
jayjay1122
Android Expert
+1 I think the misconception is that people are conditioning the battery when in reality we are calibrating the relationship between the phone and battery so the phone recognizes what the capabilities of the battery are.
I think Zemerick has a point too that there may be an issue with the phone recognizing the actual potential of the battery!! Now whether or not this is the fault of the battery or the phone is anyone's guess, but I am leaning toward it being the phone as it seems to happen with either the HTC or Seidio battery. Personally, I am not terribly concerned about it.
powdbyrice
Android Enthusiast
BATTERY ISSUE SOLVED! (for me at least) Micro SD CARD!
situation: battery life decreased significantly. previously, I was able to make it at least a day with moderate usage, (manual check email throughout the day, pandora radio for at least 4hrs, some internet mixed in). wi-fi used while at work. after card was installed, battery only lasted a couple of hours.
solution: tried everything. checked settings to make sure auto-sync stuff was turned off. tried wiping the phone to start over. thought it might have been odd side effect of OTA. (i put the card in right around that time.)
couldn't figure out why my wifes Inc still got good battery life and mine sucked. finally realized that i had a micro sd card in and she did not.
i removed the card earlier this evening and the battery meter has barely moved in 3 hrs.
AND THE PHONE GOES TO SLEEP FINALLY!!!
hope this is the solution for others as well.
situation: battery life decreased significantly. previously, I was able to make it at least a day with moderate usage, (manual check email throughout the day, pandora radio for at least 4hrs, some internet mixed in). wi-fi used while at work. after card was installed, battery only lasted a couple of hours.
solution: tried everything. checked settings to make sure auto-sync stuff was turned off. tried wiping the phone to start over. thought it might have been odd side effect of OTA. (i put the card in right around that time.)
couldn't figure out why my wifes Inc still got good battery life and mine sucked. finally realized that i had a micro sd card in and she did not.
i removed the card earlier this evening and the battery meter has barely moved in 3 hrs.
AND THE PHONE GOES TO SLEEP FINALLY!!!
hope this is the solution for others as well.
Unless your phone had zero 3rd party apps installed, I think it's more likely that an app which required the SD card created this issue.
Pretty easy to test though, perform a factory reset then see how the battery behaves.
AaronBBrown
Member
Called HTC last night. We tried a number of things regarding my calendar issue causing the phone not to sleep, but ultimately ended up doing a factory reset . I added my accounts in one at a time and the issue seems to be resolved. Now, I'm doing the arduous task of adding my apps in one at a time. Here's hoping it continues to sleep as it should. I'm still convinced there is an underlying bug, but the tech that I talked to was not very interested in actually solving any underlying problem and was actually kind of a douche-bag.
. I added my accounts in one at a time and the issue seems to be resolved. Now, I'm doing the arduous task of adding my apps in one at a time. Here's hoping it continues to sleep as it should. I'm still convinced there is an underlying bug, but the tech that I talked to was not very interested in actually solving any underlying problem and was actually kind of a douche-bag.Called HTC last night. We tried a number of things regarding my calendar issue causing the phone not to sleep, but ultimately ended up doing a factory reset
lol...my man. The HTC tech guy can't troubleshoot every app you've installed and every setting change you've made over the phone. It's not freaking magic.
The process you are going through right now (eliminating all possible sources of the problem, then actually paying attention to their impact as you add them back in one at a time) is what is commonly known as "troubleshooting".