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[Battery] Fixes and Tips

Was down to ~78% after 25 minutes of phone calls right off the charger this morning, just stuck it back on there, ive got about an hour till I need to leave for the day so I'll wait till its charge, unplug, off for a min and charge again once or twice till I have to go.

I'll see if I can replicate the results.
 
MooN said:
Well if it IS a hardware issue, seems like the battery is the culprit. Others who purchased the Seidio or the TP2 units are reporting that they no longer experience this problem.
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Can you point me to the thread with this info on it?

thanks
 
92slammer said:
ok i understand that everyone wants bettery battery life but come on....its a smart phone. if you want battery life get a motorola razor or something. These phone are designed to run lots of apps all the time....of course the battery wont last you days....its not suppose to!
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I'd be happy just to last THROUGH the day. Charging it at night is not a problem, but having it be at 15% at 2pm isn't helpful. Neither is turning off the core functions to make it last. As it is I slap in on the charger in the car, or when I'm at the house for a bit and it keeps it usable but we live in Central FL, and when it's warm we go to the amusement parks. It won't make it from the time we hit the park in the morning until we leave at night. I can carry a spare battery and will, but I really don't think HTC intended for it to have a 6 hour battery life. I think it is a flaw. Maybe a quality control issue since there are many people who have posted saying they aren't experiencing this poor of battery life, and judging by what they say they are doing with their phones they are using it as heavily or heavier than I am.
 
I think it's a good tip for some people as they may not realize that when they sign into their Google account, that their email is already setup. Then they go in and manually add it to the email app...now they have the same account draining the battery twice. I don't think the OP was trying to tell people to stop using the phones features, to not turn on the screen, turn on the phone, etc...
 
I have been turning my phone completely off at around 10:30 pm every night to charge and, not turning it back on until around 7:00 am for the last five days. I haven't had a single issue with the battery since. I use everything but the WiFi. Yesterday after 15 1/2 hours I still had 75% of my battery life left. I have never let it discharge completely. It seems to be getting better everyday.

I have noticed when I use my Bluetooth (only while driving) it tends to go down faster but, I turn it off as soon as I'm done.
 
Why didnt I think of this :) I guess i was just hoping someone from HTC sat in the thread all day like us to monitor issues but more than likely they dont.

I am going to contact them.
 
Phone on, fully charged, turned phone off and LED went red, charged for 28 minutes while off and now the LED turned green. Interesting...
 
I have clean up this thread and altered the title.

The OP was just trying to provide everyone with a helpful tip on how to increase your battery life.

Please be respectful..
 
jiggad369 said:
I was just giving out a tip to help out the people who wanted to get more out of their batteries. And I did not write the article. I just tried the author's suggestion as a "test" to help others out. Seesh!

Anyways, good tip on the GPS. I leave it off most of the time unless I'm doing local search or Navigation (main reason I want to save as much battery as possible).
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You can leave GPS on, and it will only activate itself when a program needs it - so it isn't really a battery drain. Also, if you turn GPS off you can't use Mobile Defense, which is a nice program that will help you find your phone if it is lost or stolen.

FlyPenFly said:
Actually GPS only seems to turn on when you're using Maps or an app that sets off the satellite icon. You can leave it on in settings. Android should be smart enough when to use or turn off the GPS chip and use A-GPS instead.
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Correct. If you leave GPS on, the system only activates it when necessary. It is not a battery drain like leaving bluetooth on (it will constantly search for devices to connect to and therefore drain battery) when you aren't using it.
 
I charged it until it was green again, unplugged and replugged and it was green on the replug. I downloaded a couple apps, browsed the net, messed around with the Zillow app and then put it to sleep for 30mins. Battery was at 97 when I put it to sleep, and it's still at 97 now.

Obviously it will require battery meter calibration as I suggested earlier, but the 'charge again' method appears to be factual.
 
So I have an external charger and some spare OEM batteries. Any way I can test something that would make it relevant to this thread?
 
So whoever figured out the trick of powering your phone down and then putting it right back on the charger, rinse and repeat was correct.

Just as background, I sleep with my phone connected to the AC charger. Every morning when I wake up and detach it, my battery bar goes down within minutes. I think it goes to about 93%.

So this morning even though my LED charge light was green, I disconnected the charger and powered down my phone. I powered it back up and it put back on the charger. The LED charge light was amber again for about 10 minutes. I did the routine one more time.

Usually when I get to work my battery is already into the low 90's or high 80's. As I type this, I am at work and my battery indicator is still completely full. It has been over 40 minutes since I unplugged from the charger.

Whoever figured out this method is correct. Hopefully HTC/Verizon fix this issue of the phone not fully charging!
 
Haelous said:
I charged it until it was green again, unplugged and replugged and it was green on the replug. I downloaded a couple apps, browsed the net, messed around with the Zillow app and then put it to sleep for 30mins. Battery was at 97 when I put it to sleep, and it's still at 97 now.

Obviously it will require battery meter calibration as I suggested earlier, but the 'charge again' method appears to be factual.
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Did you make sure the phone was off on the recharge? My coworker just did it to his phone but had to turn his phone off to show a red LED. It was green when he had his on.
 
I tried this technique this morning. Here are my results.

Charged from outlet over night with phone on. Strong signal (-73db). GPS off, Wifi off, Mobile Connectivity off, Bluetooth off, Auto sync off, Screen dimmed to lowest setting on Power Control.


Rise and shine.

7:30am - 100%
Unplugged phone.

7:30:01am - 99%. :mad:
No activity whatsoever for the next 20mins. Taking shower.

7:50am - 92%. :mad: :mad:
No calls, no text, no emails, etc. NO activity on the phone at all other than standyby.

7:50am -Turned phone OFF.
Not just turned off the screen, but completely shut the phone down.

Plugged into outlet charger.
Ate breakfast. ~20 min later LED changes from orange (charging) to green (full charged).

Booted up phone while still on the charger (didn't want to use anymore battery power than necessary to keep the comparison as close as possible). About the same settings as before. Strong signal (-75db). GPS off, Wifi off, Mobile Connectivity off, Bluetooth off, Auto sync off, Screen dimmed to lowest setting on Power Control.

8:14am - 100%
Unplugged phone from charger

8:35am - 100% :)

8:55am -100% :)

9:15am - 99% :)

Got busy with work stuff. Gotta pay the bills after all. TGIF btw!

Just check the Inc and holy cow.

10:40am - 98%

In my independent testing, this technique seems to be very promising. I will continue to experiment with this for the next several days, slowly increasing the amount of services to determine if the battery life is actually being extended.
 
TexasDroid said:
In my independent testing, this technique seems to be very promising. I will continue to experiment with this for the next several days, slowly increasing the amount of services to determine if the battery life is actually being extended.
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agreed, sounds promising.

I hope it's not just the battery indication display that's affected by this, but the battery itself lasts longer.
 
I have to believe this thread is onto something here is my "log" if you will

10:05 - battery 51% connected to charger
11:20 - battery 100% - rcvd green light
11:20 - plugged it right back in, still green light
11:25 - battery 99% connected to charger
11:28 - battery 100% - rcvd green light
11:28 - plugged right back in, still green light
11:34 - battery 97% connected to charger
11:44 - battery 100% - rcvd green light
11:44 - powered off phone and connected charger - rcvd RED light
11:51 - light is still RED

all battery % were taken through battery info when pressing *#*#4636#*#*, I will report back when it gives me the green light and also will see how long it takes to drain it back down to ~97%

If it turns out that I get extended battery life this way, I will have to wonder if those reporting good battery life, let there phones die and charge them in that state, or if there is a problem with some phones / chargers / batteries that don't let them fully charge while the phone is on.....

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Thinking about this more, since I've switched batteries with my wife's (whose phone still is not active yet) I'd have to say its more likely not a battery problem which would mean a phone problem or charger problem? and I've been using both our chargers, so maybe a phone problem????

Well light just went grean at 11:59 am
 
NiteRider said:
Did you make sure the phone was off on the recharge? My coworker just did it to his phone but had to turn his phone off to show a red LED. It was green when he had his on.
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Yep. Eating 3% with the amount of time I was using data and GPS (Zillow uses GPS) is not too bad in my opinion.
 
There's was an issue with the env touch that i used to own that it had a built in timer. After that timer the charger shut off. Someone figured out you could get into the service menu and disable the timer and just let the battery charge until it was full. This also let the charger trickle charge. Just a though.
 
Just got off the phone with HTC about the battery and the woman I talked to said she has the same phone and she usually gets a day and a half with hers and she agreed that mine is an issue. She transferred me to warranty Dept and the lady told me to send the battery in to the address she gave me and they would send me a new battery. I asked her what am I supposed to while I have no battery and she said to go to VZ to get a loaner phone until my new battery arrives. I told her this is unexceptable and basically she said that this is the way it is!!!
 
Here's my theory of what we are seeing:


The phone is ON and plugged in to charge overnight. The battery reaches "full capacity" sometime during the night, hours before we wake up and unplug it. The charger is programmed to STOP charging after "full power" is reached, so as not to damage the battery by overcharging.

Since the phone is still ON and not charging, the battery starts to deplete, but still shows "full power" because it is plugged in. Once it is unplugged, it drops very fast because it was actually NOT at "full power", but something lower.


Now when we plug it back in until it reaches "full power" again, we immediately unplug it and it actually is still at "full power".


This theory could be tested by turning the phone OFF while charging it overnight. If correct, it should not exhibit the same rapid drop off form 100-90% as if it were turned ON overnight.
 
This is very interesting. So since I can't turn my phone off for any length of time I tried the next best thing. I charged it until it was green, pulled the battery, put in my spare one and started charging (external charger) the one that had just turned green. The charger took about 5 minutes to fully charge the battery (until the light went to blue). Just put the battery back in and will monitor.
 
Locoman said:
Just got off the phone with HTC about the battery and the woman I talked to said she has the same phone and she usually gets a day and a half with hers and she agreed that mine is an issue. She transferred me to warranty Dept and the lady told me to send the battery in to the address she gave me and they would send me a new battery. I asked her what am I supposed to while I have no battery and she said to go to VZ to get a loaner phone until my new battery arrives. I told her this is unexceptable and basically she said that this is the way it is!!!
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Well, I guess you've at least made progress. HTC has acknowledged your battery performance is not where it is supposed to be. It is a step in the right direction. My local VZW store said they could 2-day ship an Incredible from another store to offer a replacement phone/battery.
 
Something I noticed while doing this that I forgot to mention...

Plug your phone in while it's on.
Wait for the light to go green.
Turn the phone off.
Watch the light go orange/red/whatever.

I thought this was kind of funny.
 
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