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Root Bloatware Must Die! (My noob rooting journal)

cognus said:
just a question sorta pertinent to the OP's P.
Maps/Latitude: I have this set to NOT autostart, I Have unchecked every plausible think I can come up with that might invoke it anyway, and still it cranks off at bootup. :confused:
Uninstall via Titanium will work, but I want it to use, or I shall replace it with something from Market that I can actually control [might be the better plan].

can someone advise as to what worked for you?
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I guess it's not too surprising if Google Maps can't be prevented from auto-starting... Google is pretty deep into your OS (unless of course you install a new ROM).

I really like GPS Essentials as an addition to (or in your case, a replacement for) Google Maps. They describe it as "The Swiss army knife of GPS navigation", and they're not far off. My favorite feature is the customizable grid of dashboard elements like speed, altitude, GPS accuracy, # of sats, etc. You resize the map and the space is filled with as many dashboard elements as can fit.

GPS Essentials has track recording, but I like Google's My Tracks better. (Of course, if you're trying to de-Goog, that's not a very helpful hint.)
 
that's a non-trivial point - and we tolerate it [on pc's also, which drives MS nuts]. I shall uninstall.
thx

RobertB-DC said:
I guess it's not too surprising if Google Maps can't be prevented from auto-starting... Google is pretty deep into your OS (unless of course you install a new ROM).

I really like GPS Essentials as an addition to (or in your case, a replacement for) Google Maps. They describe it as "The Swiss army knife of GPS navigation", and they're not far off. My favorite feature is the customizable grid of dashboard elements like speed, altitude, GPS accuracy, # of sats, etc. You resize the map and the space is filled with as many dashboard elements as can fit.

GPS Essentials has track recording, but I like Google's My Tracks better. (Of course, if you're trying to de-Goog, that's not a very helpful hint.)
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Reading this thread finally motivated me to root my Optimus T, for the same reason: sick of constantly running out of space when installing apps. Right now I have almost no free space left, about 20MB. I've installed z4root, and can get temporary root going. I see a SuperUser app, and also installed one from the store. And I installed Titanium Backup and Busybox from Google Play Store. The problem I have is Titanium Backup doesn't see su so it can't get root access. This is where I am stuck. What should I try next? Not sure how to proceed at this point. I was thinking to try z4root permanent root, since that was the choice in the OP. Also, does my phone need to be unlocked? It's still locked to T-Mobile. TIA
 
aau said:
Reading this thread finally motivated me to root my Optimus T, for the same reason: sick of constantly running out of space when installing apps. Right now I have almost no free space left, about 20MB. I've installed z4root, and can get temporary root going. I see a SuperUser app, and also installed one from the store. And I installed Titanium Backup and Busybox from Google Play Store. The problem I have is Titanium Backup doesn't see su so it can't get root access. This is where I am stuck. What should I try next? Not sure how to proceed at this point. I was thinking to try z4root permanent root, since that was the choice in the OP. Also, does my phone need to be unlocked? It's still locked to T-Mobile. TIA
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Hmm... I wouldn't expect multiple SU apps to play well together. I would uninstall the SU app you got from the Market, because I think z4root put one in already? Since you saw one in addition to the one you installed, I bet you didn't need the one you installed. Then reboot the phone before trying Titanium again.

I did notice that Titanium is referencing another SU app in its latest updates. I don't know anything about it, but you might find something useful in the Titanium site or forums.

The phone definitely does NOT need to be carrier-unlocked. Mine's still T-Mobilized.

Good luck!
 
Hello,
I'm new to the forums and I've been an android Optimus T user for about a year and I finally got tired of running out of space so I started the search to remove that bloatware! Well I ended up here and I read the entire thread.
And I'm headed to go root my Optimus T right now!!!!!!!!
Thank you @RobertB-DC!!!!!!!!
May the bloatware die!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)
 
RobertB-DC said:
* Run z4root
So, I have the choice of Temporary Root or Permanent Root. There's no promise that Temporary will actually work -- well, there's no promise in any case, but Permanent at least has been tried more often. So I just jumped in and hit the Permanent button.

* USB debugging
Oops, I forgot to turn on USB debugging. z4root sent me to the settings page, where I turned it on.

* Run z4root again!
After some grinding, and some messages at the bottom of the screen, I was taken to a blank white screen showing only the notification bar. Then the phone rebooted. At this point, I wondered if I should have taken out the SD card physically, since rebooting of course re-mounted it.
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Ok geeks, I'm a newby at this too.
I downloaded and installed z4root. Everything appeared to be going as planned, I launched z4root and hit permanent root, it did it's thing and then closed leaving me at my app tray. The phone didn't reboot, so after a few minutes of waiting for something to happen I rebooted the phone manually, there was no "super user" app so I ran z4root again. Still same thing happens. :dong:
Any help would be met with a very warm welcome!
Thanks in advance!

Edit: I'm using a T-mobile LG optimus T, running Android 2.2.2
One more addition: After what I described above the phone still seams to be functioning normally, everything still works. Thanks again!
 
I finally got my LG optimus T rooted last night using "GingerBreak". z4root won't root phones running 2.2.2
I have been killing the bloatware since and it's already sped up my phone considerably!
Thanks again for this rooting journal, This forum is what convinced me to try this and I'm so glad I did! :D
 
Keep in mind: Without a custom recovery to make a nandroid backup of your system, if you delete something that cause's a process to crash or you have a lot of force closure's, how are you going to fix it? With the backup made in the custom recovery, if the above happens all you have to do is wipe and format everything necessary for a ROM install, then restore the backup. Good as new again.
 
AndyOpie150 said:
Keep in mind: Without a custom recovery to make a nandroid backup of your system, if you delete something that cause's a process to crash or you have a lot of force closure's, how are you going to fix it? With the backup made in the custom recovery, if the above happens all you have to do is wipe and format everything necessary for a ROM install, then restore the backup. Good as new again.
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@AndiOpie150, How to I do that? I've backed up all my apps with Titanium Backup. I've read some stuff about Nandroid but what is it?
 
The nandroid backup is just a complete backup of the ROM/system on your phone. Everything; where your apps are placed on the page and how many apps, what wallpaper you have, what settings you have chosen, etc. Everything that makes your phone, your phone.
This can only be done using a custom recovery (the stock recovery doesn't allow it).
I'm not sure what will work on your phone, Look in the All Things Root Guide sticky. Then look at the rest of the root sub-forum. If you need help to install let me know and I'll read thru what you have found to make sure I know what's needed and how.
 
RobertB-DC said:
Hmm... I wouldn't expect multiple SU apps to play well together. I would uninstall the SU app you got from the Market, because I think z4root put one in already? Since you saw one in addition to the one you installed, I bet you didn't need the one you installed. Then reboot the phone before trying Titanium again.

I did notice that Titanium is referencing another SU app in its latest updates. I don't know anything about it, but you might find something useful in the Titanium site or forums.

The phone definitely does NOT need to be carrier-unlocked. Mine's still T-Mobilized.

Good luck!
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I removed the installed SU app, but that still didn't work. What did work was choosing to permanently root my phone in z4root. Now Titanium Backup finds su and starts up. Now I need to think about what to do next. Thanks!
 
AndyOpie150 said:
The nandroid backup is just a complete backup of the ROM/system on your phone. Everything; where your apps are placed on the page and how many apps, what wallpaper you have, what settings you have chosen, etc. Everything that makes your phone, your phone.
This can only be done using a custom recovery (the stock recovery doesn't allow it).
I'm not sure what will work on your phone, Look in the All Things Root Guide sticky. Then look at the rest of the root sub-forum. If you need help to install let me know and I'll read thru what you have found to make sure I know what's needed and how.
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@AndyOpie150, I found this on addictive tips
How To Perform And Restore A NANDROID Backup

How To Install ClockworkMod Recovery On Your Android Phone

I installed the RomManager as instructed at the above linkes and now I'm waiting for my new 16gb sd card to arrive before I can backup (no space left on the stock 2gb sd)
The info at those sites seems to be a compilation of what I've been hearing about Nandroid backups, is the info on addictive tips correct? Should I follow it? Can creating a Nandroid backup endanger my system? I see the need to backup the entire phone before I continue removing apps just incase I make a wrong move. So far I've been freezing any apps I wasn't sure about for at least a week before removing.

Thanks for the help. :pcguru:
 
Double check and make sure the recovery in ROM Manager is the right one for your phone. If not install the proper one. If it is then install it and make a backup using the "backup" option in the "backup and restore" section.
I have Link2SD on my Optimus V and have 151 apps on my sd card linked and running normally. You might check and see if it can be used on the T.
I have a 16GB uSD card. I made a 2GB partition for Link2SD. I still have 133.84MB of the 178.87MB of internal storage. With 249MB of 425MB RAM still left over.
 
AndyOpie150 said:
Double check and make sure the recovery in ROM Manager is the right one for your phone. If not install the proper one. If it is then install it and make a backup using the "backup" option in the "backup and restore" section.
I have Link2SD on my Optimus V and have 151 apps on my sd card linked and running normally. You might check and see if it can be used on the T.
I have a 16GB uSD card. I made a 2GB partition for Link2SD. I still have 133.84MB of the 178.87MB of internal storage. With 249MB of 425MB RAM still left over.
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I'm still constantly struggling with low RAM, so Link2SD looks really interesting. I'm already forcing every non-widget app to SD, but the Dalvik cache and Data still take up valuable internal memory.

If I'm understanding Link2SD correctly, it will let me move apps to the second partition -- AND their associated Dalvik caches. Also, it says it'll move their "lib" .so files, though I'm not sure what that will do since I haven't seen .so files show up as a separate item in DiskUsage (maybe it's included in "Application"?). It doesn't move "private data files", though.

I'll try out Link2SD when I get a chance. But first, I really, really need to run a nandroid backup. I've had my phone for long enough now (a year next month) that I'd be a bit peeved if I lost everything at this point!
 
You need to make sure the uSD card is big enough to allow you to make a 1GB partition at least. 2GB is the optimum.
 
When Flashing ClockWorkMod Recovery in ROM Manager, which phone model should I choose, LG Optimus One or LG Optimus One (old BB)?
 
Go to settings/about phone. Look at your baseband. You need the one that is for your baseband. I would go to the Optimus one forum to see what baseband the new and the old are.
 
I tried to do a Nandroid backup of my LG Optimus T, here's what happened.
I installed ROM Manager, Installed ClockworkMod recovery and then used ROM Manager to boot into recovery. On reboot after it gets passed the LG screen it says "Fastboot mode started udc_start()"
It has been saying this for 30 minutes so I pulled the battery, tried to boot again and same thing happens.
Please help asap!
Note: I installed the ROM Manager on the SD card, was that my mistake?
 
AndyOpie150 said:
This is for the M but should work on the T http://androidforums.com/optimus-m-...uide-get-out-fastboot-mode-2.html#post2996457
Just make sure you get the LG drivers for the T on your PC if you haven't yet Google it. Then disregard the LG united mobile driver in the zip as they are not for your phone.
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I followed the instructions at the link you posted and it got me out of the fastboot but now I'm stuck on the LG boot up screen. Sometimes it sits there for forever until I pull the battery and other times it will show the LG screen and then shut back off and do it over again (vicious cycle)

I was thinking that if I could get the stock OS on my computer maybe I could install it to the phone. Maybe? :confused: I tried a factory data reset (home + volume- down + power) and it didn't work. If I can get the phone back to life I don't care if my stuff is still on it or not. I didn't had all my data backed up and my apps are backed up on the SD card which was backed up on my computer. So even if it's back to factory standards I'll be happy!

Any help is much appreciated! :D
Thanks in advance!

Edit:
Would this software upgrade replace my current OS with a newer one? And could it be upgraded with my phone being in it's current unusable state?
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1796
 
It's ok, it means you have no recovery installed. You where in fastboot so we know you have the custom flash_image installed. We need to find you the custom recovery and ROM for your phone.
You will need the LG Drivers for your phone. If not already installed go here LG Optimus T USB Drivers - LG Cell Phones Blog
You need to establish ADB in your PC's system path. Go here New pre-packaged ADB installation
Then go here [How-To] Root, Recovery, ROM without touching a computer - Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com
With the power off on the phone pull the sd card put it into the PC. Download the recovery mentioned and transfer it to the root of the sd card (not in any folder, just near the bottom of the list of folders). Rename the recovery: recovery.img (this is just for ease of typing it in the code).
Download this ROM: http://optimusone-fmt.blogspot.com/2011/01/rom-ubuntdroid-rc2-optimus-t and put it on the root of the sd card. This is a good ROM to start with. put the SD card back into the phone and turn power on.
plug phone into the PC, let the drivers finish installing.
Open up a command prompt on the PC and type in (make sure you hit the enter key after each line):
cd..
cd..
cd SDK/platform-tools
adb shell (you should get a # after typing this in). If you didn't get a # type in this:
su (you should now get a #). Then type in this:
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock1 /system
cat /sdcard/flash_image > /system/bin/flash_image
chmod 755 /system/bin/flash_image
mv /system/etc/install-recovery.sh /system/etc/install-recovery.sh.bak
(Note: Make sure you get the spaces right. If you get an error on the line above such as "file does not exist" ignore the error and keep going).
mount -o remount,ro -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock1 /system
flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img (you should have a # after typing this in. You might get a long stream of almost identical looking code, thats ok as long as you get a # after). Then type in this:
reboot recovery (it should now boot into the recovery)

From within recovery, press volume down and select Wipe. From within the wipe menu select wipe factory, when thats done wipe cache, when thats done wipe dalvik. You should be doing 3 different wipes.

Note: By wiping factory you are essentially resetting the phone. Your contacts, apps, anything and everything will be wiped off the phone.
After you wipe, you'll want to hit the back button to go back to the main menu of the recovery.
Now select flash zip from SD card. Select the ROM you downloaded then confirm the selection.
After it installs go back to your recovery menu and select "Reboot system now"
Wait 5-10 minutes for the initial install boot up.
When it boots into the ROM go to the Market app and sign in to your google account.
Reboot the phone twice. Then do as you please.
 
AndyOpie150 said:
Then go here [How-To] Root, Recovery, ROM without touching a computer - Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com
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Under the "Recovery" section (steps 5 and 6) I downloaded the "Flash_Image.zip" but the "recovery-RA-GNM-OPT-T-test.img.zip" returns Error 404 not found. Should I try to find the file elsewhere? or do you know of another download location?


AndyOpie150 said:
Download this ROM: http://optimusone-fmt.blogspot.com/2011/01/rom-ubuntdroid-rc2-optimus-t and put it on the root of the sd card. This is a good ROM to start with. put the SD card back into the phone and turn power on.
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That page is in Romanian???? I can't read that lol, and for some reason Google Translate isn't recognizing the foreign language.

Otherwise the instructions are great! I really appreciate all the help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are a real lifesaver!!!!! I can't wait to get my phone back :D :D
Thanks a ton!

Edit: Since the page you linked was in Romanian I found an android 2.3.3 ROM for the P500, would that work on my P509? Also my stock ROM was 2.2.2 and I have been waiting for a time to upgrade to 2.3.3 and now seems like just as good a time as any to do that, plus it's a official LG ROM. Here's the link to xda devs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260920
Thanks man!
 
I'm having a very hard time finding a decent recovery for your phone. What OS version is it, 2.2.1 or 3.06? I keep running into dead links. I found one that's still alive here http://androidforums.com/getitnowmarketing/330813-all-one-recovery-thread-5.html
You want this one: recovery-RA-thunderg-2.2.1-GNM.img or the recovery-ra-thunderg--3.06-gnm.img depending on the OS version of your phone.
Note: Make sure you write the MD5 sum down. Download a MD5 sum checker to your PC. Once it downloads check the MD5 sum of the download against the one for the download site, they should match. If not try again.
As far as finding a CWMod recovery, I think there hiding.

Having a hard time with the ROM as well. PM'd a member who seems to know a lot about the T. Will await his reply then let you know. In the mean time try this ROM http://androidforums.com/optimus-t-...d-t1d-s-froyo-2-2-2-deodexed.html#post3207794
If you need help installing it PM me.
 
AndyOpie150 said:
I'm having a very hard time finding a decent recovery for your phone. What OS version is it, 2.2.1 or 3.06? I keep running into dead links. I found one that's still alive here http://androidforums.com/getitnowmarketing/330813-all-one-recovery-thread-5.html
You want this one: recovery-RA-thunderg-2.2.1-GNM.img or the recovery-ra-thunderg--3.06-gnm.img depending on the OS version of your phone.
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My OS is 2.2.2, so 2.2.1 should work and then it will just tun an update afterwards. And just for the record I really appreciate the work you're putting into this for me!

AndyOpie150 said:
Note: Make sure you write the MD5 sum down. Download a MD5 sum checker to your PC. Once it downloads check the MD5 sum of the download against the one for the download site, they should match. If not try again.
As far as finding a CWMod recovery, I think there hiding.

Having a hard time with the ROM as well. PM'd a member who seems to know a lot about the T. Will await his reply then let you know. In the mean time try this ROM http://androidforums.com/optimus-t-...d-t1d-s-froyo-2-2-2-deodexed.html#post3207794
If you need help installing it PM me.
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Okay, Thanks again! I'll try this asap.
 
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