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Komodo Rogue

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Hey guys - I just learned something from mashable, and thought I'd share. First let me say that this post is only relevant to people who are spec whores like me; if you are in the "1ghz processor on a great phone is perfect for me; I don't need dual cores" camp, I respect that, but just a heads up: this thread probably won't interest you! I want to preemptively stop some posters from making arguments against crazy power on a cell phone, because I know some people will think "this is ridiculous, that's too much power!" And you're probably right, actually! But for some people, cutting-edge tech is cool in itself :)

Personally, I'm definitely a sucker for impressive technical specifications, and although the Atrix has MANY reasons to like it - screen, fingerprint reader, 1 gb DDR RAM, battery, docks, etc - the biggest draw for me was the Tegra 2. I probably would have gone for the Atrix even if it was otherwise identical to, say, a Captivate or Incredible, but had a Tegra 2 250 under the hood.

ANYWAY, it seems like the Atrix won't be released until sometime after MWC. This was a bummer for me, however I just learned something that makes me a little bit happier that I have to wait, thanks to mashable:

Smartphones and Tablets to Get Even Faster With Nvidia's Tegra 3 Chip

Nvidia is set to roll out the next-generation Tegra 3 chip aimed at smartphones and tablets, promising to be even faster than its current processor, which was one of the stars of CES 2011, the dual-core Tegra 2.

While Nvidia hasn
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Komodo Rogue said:
Hey guys - I just learned something from mashable, and thought I'd share. First let me say that this post is only relevant to people who are spec whores like me; if you are in the "1ghz processor on a great phone is perfect for me; I don't need dual cores" camp, I respect that, but just a heads up: this thread probably won't interest you! I want to preemptively stop some posters from making arguments against crazy power on a cell phone, because I know some people will think "this is ridiculous, that's too much power!" And you're probably right, actually! But for some people, cutting-edge tech is cool in itself :)

Personally, I'm definitely a sucker for impressive technical specifications, and although the Atrix has MANY reasons to like it - screen, fingerprint reader, 1 gb DDR RAM, battery, docks, etc - the biggest draw for me was the Tegra 2. I probably would have gone for the Atrix even if it was otherwise identical to, say, a Captivate or Incredible, but had a Tegra 2 250 under the hood.

ANYWAY, it seems like the Atrix won't be released until sometime after MWC. This was a bummer for me, however I just learned something that makes me a little bit happier that I have to wait, thanks to mashable:

Smartphones and Tablets to Get Even Faster With Nvidia's Tegra 3 Chip



Check out the link for more info. Anyway, the Atrix will DEFINITELY be released before any Tegra-3 phones are released, so if the wait is killing you, then I would just go with the Atrix... it's definitely an awesome phone, and I can't imagine anyone being disappointed with it!

However, if you can hold out a little longer, here's my guess: Because Tegra 2 was announced at CES 2010 and was shipping in various consumer products by March, I think it is very, very possible that we will see not only the Tegra 3 SoC by itself, but in a phone, or at least a tablet. Remember, nvidia said (not just in this article) that they were going to release a new Tegra SoC annually, so I think it may be ready for manufacturing, but didn't show off the chip at CES because CES was all about Tegra 2, Tegra 2, Tegra 2... if nvidia said "Oh, and here's the Tegra 3, and it kicks the Tegra 2's ass," then nvidia would have a lot of really pissed off business partners!

A March or April release in some kind of device (hopefully not just tablet, but last year, Tegra 2 went to tablets and netbooks loooong before cellphones) seems very possible. SO, if you are a spec nerd and want the most powerful phone out there, try to wait until MWC to see what's happening, even if the Atrix ends up releasing before MWC!
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The first tegra 2 devices weren't that long ago, late fall I believe. I wouldn't hold out any hope that you'll see tegra 3 in a real device before the coming fall. And I definitely don't think you're going to see it this spring or summer. I love the latest and greatest specs too, but we aren't going to see tegra 3 for a good long time. (In technology pace I mean. A good long time being 6-8 months, lol)
 
youareme7 said:
The first tegra 2 devices weren't that long ago, late fall I believe. I wouldn't hold out any hope that you'll see tegra 3 in a real device before the coming fall. And I definitely don't think you're going to see it this spring or summer. I love the latest and greatest specs too, but we aren't going to see tegra 3 for a good long time. (In technology pace I mean. A good long time being 6-8 months, lol)
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Right so like I told the others all saying that the inspire is dated all phones get dated you need to get what fits you best and not worry about it going obsolete
 
Tegra 3 will not be out for a long time on mobile phones. It will need a lot of testing, a lot of optimizing, etc. Same as the Tegra 2 had.

Expect to see it on netbooks, tablets, and nettops for a good year before it is even announced for a cell phone.
 
Chapp1e said:
Tegra 3 will not be out for a long time on mobile phones. It will need a lot of testing, a lot of optimizing, etc. Same as the Tegra 2 had.

Expect to see it on netbooks, tablets, and nettops for a good year before it is even announced for a cell phone.
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Sure but the point I made above still holds true. We get so caught up in future proof tech that we wait for the non existant perfect phone. Just buy what suits your needs and don't stress.
 
AndreaCristiano said:
Sure but the point I made above still holds true. We get so caught up in future proof tech that we wait for the non existant perfect phone. Just buy what suits your needs and don't stress.
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I've been meaning to ask you this, what is giving you cause to give up your nexus s to get an inspire? Is it more about carrier than device?
 
youareme7 said:
I've been meaning to ask you this, what is giving you cause to give up your nexus s to get an inspire? Is it more about carrier than device?
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No I gave up the nexus S have a captivate now until. The inspire arrives. Gingerbread was awesome but the phone had some major connectivity issues even with full bars on both signal and wifi it would go white( meaning it lost connectivity ) it would basically render the phone useless for a few seconds to sometime minutes. It was a constant occurance. So now I have a captivate till mid Feb when the atrix arrives
 
Yeah, tegra 2 was announced and didn't land on a phone for a full year. The Atrix will be relevant well into 2012, which is far beyond how long single core chips will be. If nothing else, i see this as more evidence to steer clear of a single core phone, it shows that they will be left behind that much sooner... it makes me almost have pity when i look fondly at my N1 and especially my G1...
 
youareme7 said:
The first tegra 2 devices weren't that long ago, late fall I believe. I wouldn't hold out any hope that you'll see tegra 3 in a real device before the coming fall. And I definitely don't think you're going to see it this spring or summer. I love the latest and greatest specs too, but we aren't going to see tegra 3 for a good long time. (In technology pace I mean. A good long time being 6-8 months, lol)
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The first Tegra 2 tablet came out in May 2010 actually - and it was announced at CES 2010, so it's actually very possible!

*Edit - I wrote March originally - my bad! It's May, not March, 2010.
 
Chapp1e said:
Tegra 3 will not be out for a long time on mobile phones. It will need a lot of testing, a lot of optimizing, etc. Same as the Tegra 2 had.

Expect to see it on netbooks, tablets, and nettops for a good year before it is even announced for a cell phone.
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What you say is definitely possible, but I have a feeling nvidia might be stepping up their game in the smartphone market. They are partners with tons of huge manufacturers now, and the Tegra brand has better name recognition than it used to. I wouldn't be too surprised to see it MUCH earlier than it took the Tegra 2 to jump to cell phones - maybe some kind of announcement at ces, perhaps even a demonstration at someone's keynote? But I would be shocked to see any units of display for playing around with.

Anyway, March - April, like I said earlier, is probably much too optimistic, but sometime this spring seems very possible - you know the manufactorers like being the "first" at something, and "the first quad core smartphone" is pretty damn awesome - if the hardware is available, why woudn't OEMs use it?

 
AndreaCristiano said:
So in other words all this hype for atrix and people saying how its future proof yet it will be basically a mute point a few months later?
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Anyone who called any cell phone "future proof" is either exaggerating, being silly, or unaware of the market. I with you there.

However, I think buying a single core high-end phone, when dual cores are all available, and quad cores exist and *Might* be in consumer's phones in a couple months down the road, isn't a great idea if you want a phone that can keep up in two year from now. Then again, I'm pretty much limited to two years because of contractual stuff, but if you can afford to buy a new phone a few times a year, then I guess ya you should just get what you want.

I knew I'd see your kind of post though - that's why I wrote in my post that this was for news for tech spec enthusiasts, dude! If you love the 1ghz processors, why not make a thread about how great they are or something? You have the right to post here like everyone else but I don't really see why you would just try and rain on my parade for no reason - your response doesn't even address anything in my post really; you're just trashing the Atrix. Why are you on these forums anyway if you don't want it? I don't plan on buying the Droid Incredible, but I'm not about to go to that forum and trash the phone on every single thread, because that kinda strikes me as a mean thing too do, not to mention boring.

And to answer your question... no, I was not saying that the Atrix would be a "mute point" (I'm assuming you meant moot point) a few months later - in fact, I praised the Atrix and basically said that it will be great. Did you read my post at all? :confused: :confused:
 
Komodo Rogue said:
Anyone who called any cell phone "future proof" is either exaggerating, being silly, or unaware of the market. I with you there.

However, I think buying a single core high-end phone, when dual cores are all available, and quad cores exist and *Might* be in consumer's phones in a couple months down the road, isn't a great idea if you want a phone that can keep up in two year from now. Then again, I'm pretty much limited to two years because of contractual stuff, but if you can afford to buy a new phone a few times a year, then I guess ya you should just get what you want.

[COLOR="Red"]I knew I'd see your kind of post though - that's why I wrote in my post that this was for news for tech spec enthusiasts, dude! If you love the 1ghz processors, why not make a thread about how great they are or something? You have the right to post here like everyone else but I don't really see why you would just try and rain on my parade for no reason - your response doesn't even address anything in my post really; you're just trashing the Atrix. Why are you on these forums anyway if you don't want it? I don't plan on buying the Droid Incredible, but I'm not about to go to that forum and trash the phone on every single thread, because that kinda strikes me as a mean thing too do, not to mention boring.

And to answer your question... no, I was not saying that the Atrix would be a "mute point" (I'm assuming you meant moot point) a few months later - in fact, I praised the Atrix and basically said that it will be great. Did you read my post at all?[/COLOR] :confused: :confused:
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I know you weren't saying that. I wasn't saying single cores are the qreatest either. What I'm saying is on this forum since the atrix was announced if anyone says they decide against it they almost get told that they are idiots for considering a single core. My arguement has been that people get what fits best for them and it shouldn't matter what core is in the phone because eventually everything is passed by. So if some want the atrix all good if some want inspire or the Arc or the infuse bless them as well. I just try and balance all this atrix mania because people run with the specs and get lost in that fact. While they do that they forget that a good cell phone is the fit of all the parts for that individual person and specs don't equal always the best. Now spec wise the Atrix is a beast and will probably make many people thrilled for a long while :)
 
AndreaCristiano said:
I know you weren't saying that. I wasn't saying single cores are the qreatest either. What I'm saying is on this forum since the atrix was announced if anyone says they decide against it they almost get told that they are idiots for considering a single core. My arguement has been that people get what fits best for them and it shouldn't matter what core is in the phone because eventually everything is passed by. So if some want the atrix all good if some want inspire or the Arc or the infuse bless them as well. I just try and balance all this atrix mania because people run with the specs and get lost in that fact. While they do that they forget that a good cell phone is the fit of all the parts for that individual person and specs don't equal always the best. Now spec wise the Atrix is a beast and will probably make many people thrilled for a long while :)
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That wasn't what you said in your first response to the thread, and like I said in the post, not everyone is tech spec crazy like me and wants to see whatever is the newest, and like I said, that's fine... but yeah, if that's your position, then we're in agreement.
 
Whatever is coming down the pipe months from now.. it doesn't matter, the Atrix will be the baddest boy on the block out there when it releases.. and will be for several months at least.. combine that with the docking accessories, and it's got some staying power as far as demand.. people want it now, and people WILL be still wanting to buy them 6 months from now.. Beyond that, I can see Motorola and other companies doing more things with docking.. both laptop, and probably tablets.. but I don't see those products coming about before next holiday season, or maybe next year.. Not saying the Atrix is future proof, but I think people may keep em longer than most of the phones that seem to keep an owners attention for like 2 or 3 months before they are hopping on to the next big thing.
 
lol..

Not trying to knock spec whoredom... I am a bit of one myself..

However, after the 1ghz craze on phones.. my interest has died a bit.

There is no way your going to buy a phone and really honestly expect it to not be obsolete in 2 years.. if you do your well..:rolleyes:

Even a quad core phone... is well.. gimmicky at best.

Dual core? I can let it have its shot.. quad core? Come on now.. they still don't have quad cores standard in most laptops for a reason..

Also... learning about instructions per clock does sorta kill the epicness of phone spec's altogether..
 
Snow_Fox said:
lol..

Not trying to knock spec whoredom... I am a bit of one myself..

However, after the 1ghz craze on phones.. my interest has died a bit.

There is no way your going to buy a phone and really honestly expect it to not be obsolete in 2 years.. if you do your well..:rolleyes:

Even a quad core phone... is well.. gimmicky at best.

Dual core? I can let it have its shot.. quad core? Come on now.. they still don't have quad cores standard in most laptops for a reason..

Also... learning about instructions per clock does sorta kill the epicness of phone spec's altogether..
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yep i concur lol
 
Snow_Fox said:
lol..

Not trying to knock spec whoredom... I am a bit of one myself..

However, after the 1ghz craze on phones.. my interest has died a bit.

There is no way your going to buy a phone and really honestly expect it to not be obsolete in 2 years.. if you do your well..:rolleyes:

Even a quad core phone... is well.. gimmicky at best.

Dual core? I can let it have its shot.. quad core? Come on now.. they still don't have quad cores standard in most laptops for a reason..

Also... learning about instructions per clock does sorta kill the epicness of phone spec's altogether..
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I am a spec freak like the OP but, considering my laptop isn't truly quad core (hyperthreading), I would not really desire that in my phone. Anyways, like many others have said, it will take a great deal of time for that phone to actually hit the market. I can see a new Tegra coming out each year but, since the Atrix will be one of the first adaptations of Tegra 2, I do not see Tegra 3 coming in mobile phones for a good amount of time.
 
This post doesn't make any sense. A yearly update cycle would mean that with product development it will be almost another year before we see Tegra 3 phones.....
 
You DO realize that when the Tegra 3 phones are about to come out, the same story will repeat with a Tegra 4 or something along these lines?

You will wait forever at this rate.

I personally want to get it now. The Optimus 2x or the Atrix, any one of them.
 
dsjr2006 said:
This post doesn't make any sense. A yearly update cycle would mean that with product development it will be almost another year before we see Tegra 3 phones.....
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Good point! Wait, no.

First of all a lot has happened since I first made this thread, and in light of new developments, the tegra 3 will NOT be available this spring (a better T2 that was made to be fast enough for 3D phones will be here very soon, however). If you want to learn more about the SoC stuff, I just posted a link in the thread about the quake 3 scores, so you can check that out if you want.

But lets check out your awesome logic:

Seeing as though T2 was announced at CES 2010 and the first product using the chip was for sale in May 2010 (the tegra 2's availability may have been much sooner though; the original tegra kinda sucked so demand for the T2 wasn't huge at first), and the yearly update schedule from nvidea, you say that the new tegras will be here... drumroll, please!... in about another year (so lets say February 2012)!! Wow! Yeah, my post doesn't make sense, does it?! Because apparently, annually means 2 years.

OK sorry for the sarcasm, but seriously, you should really read up on this kinda stuff (or come on, you can at least read my post) and know what you're talking about before making criticisms.

lol..

Not trying to knock spec whoredom... I am a bit of one myself..

However, after the 1ghz craze on phones.. my interest has died a bit.

There is no way your going to buy a phone and really honestly expect it to not be obsolete in 2 years.. if you do your well..

Even a quad core phone... is well.. gimmicky at best.

Dual core? I can let it have its shot.. quad core? Come on now.. they still don't have quad cores standard in most laptops for a reason..

Also... learning about instructions per clock does sorta kill the epicness of phone spec's altogether..
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yep i concur lol
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seriously people!!! my gosh, I tried to make my intent clear from the first post, and have even clarified mor since then!!! Go ahead and hate dual cores, and yeah quad cores are total gimmicks, just a fad. I was hoping that other people with technical knowledge would be able to discuss this stuff, that's all.

You DO realize that when the Tegra 3 phones are about to come out, the same story will repeat with a Tegra 4 or something along these lines?

You will wait forever at this rate.

I personally want to get it now. The Optimus 2x or the Atrix, any one of them.
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...aaaannnd you completely missed the point of my post.

OK I give up - I was only trying to help the other spec nerds.

Sheesh! :rolleyes:
 
There is a big difference between the first product using the chip and when it actually becomes available in quantity like it is right now for example. So no your post didn't make sense if it's meant to be factual because it's illogically speculative at best. Major manufacturers have products in development for very long periods of time compared to smaller firms so it is unlikely you will see any Samsung, Moto, LG, etc. products using Tegra 3 until early next year. If your point is that I can buy a Tegra 3 powered device made by Random Electronics soon than that then you would probably be correct, but its unlikely that there will be anything greatly appealing.
 
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