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Captivate vs Iphone 4

♠Ace;2153727 said:
Wow, didn`t expect so many replies. I see my topic built a debate. I read every single posts, but I am still stuck on what to make.
Well like I said, I love Android`s customization and it`s unique from the person next to me.

What frustrate me the most is that most games seem to be released in the iphone first. My friend was showing me his jailbreak iphone with games such as Nova 2(release Dec 2010) and Modern Combat 2(Oct 2010) that he just downloaded off. While the Android only has the older version. I mean I don't even mind paying for the game, but it's not even out yet(new version) for android. While iphone users can get it for free if they jail break the phone. The Iphone version has already been out 3-4 month already, and still no sign for android. My major concern is by the time that is out, the iphone will have newer stuffs.
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that is illegal, not jailbreaking but the free apps
 
I was gonna get the iPhone 4 but after the iPhone 4 fiasco from Rogers. I just went with the Captivate even though the launch was a disaster too lol. Before the official froyo I was unhappy with how the captivate performed. Apps weren't responding and the phone would just freeze like the gallery, maps, navigation, or flickie wallpaper HD. So I had to keep pulling out the battery. It would also open apps by itself which slowed the phone down. Advance Task Killer doesn't really help. Just drains my battery and would delay push notification of Kik Messenger, and Gmail. The stock video player would play vids fine but the audio was always out of sync unless I use ATK. Stock music player would make my music crack and pop... no idea why.

With the official froyo update, it fixed all the problems I had with the captivate. It does what I want it to do and fast. Just wished it had a FCC and a better camera.

For games, well since most androids devices are coming out with Tegra 2, I'm sure we'll see more games on Android. Give it some time.
 
♠Ace;2153727 said:
Wow, didn`t expect so many replies. I see my topic built a debate. I read every single posts, but I am still stuck on what to make.
Well like I said, I love Android`s customization and it`s unique from the person next to me.

What frustrate me the most is that most games seem to be released in the iphone first. My friend was showing me his jailbreak iphone with games such as Nova 2(release Dec 2010) and Modern Combat 2(Oct 2010) that he just downloaded off. While the Android only has the older version. I mean I don't even mind paying for the game, but it's not even out yet(new version) for android. While iphone users can get it for free if they jail break the phone. The Iphone version has already been out 3-4 month already, and still no sign for android. My major concern is by the time that is out, the iphone will have newer stuffs.
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My biggest beef when I had the Captivate with the Android market was the amount of low budget Apps you run into when looking for something specific. Yes, Android market has a ton of Apps but how many are really of good quality. If you want to play games, which you seem to keep coming back to with each post, Android is not your immediate solution. Down the road, yes, that might change but it will be months to a year before you see a wide variety of quality games.

With Verizon pumping out the iPhone now and Sprint rumored to be following suit as well as T-Mobile, the Android market might not make the leaps and bounds many expect if this all ends up happening this year. All I can tell you, as I stated before, the quality of Apps on the Apple side is top notch. Another site that might help you with the game decision is:

Touch Arcade: iPod Touch, iPad and iPhone Games, Reviews and News

You can read about all the existing games plus what's coming down the pipe including trailers, screenshots and comments from the developers. Really neat site if you want to see the gaming side of IOS, iPhone and iPad.
 
I cant believe you are ALL complaining about lack of games on Android. Do you not know that the captivate is a freaking powerhouse? There are emulators on the android market. (granted, they take time to get the hang of installing roms) That is what I do and I am enjoying street fighter, metal gear solid, need for speed, mario kart, and many others. I came from an iphone. I was actually a major fanboy. Then I actually tried android and I never looked back. I use the captivate now and whenever I use an iphone, i get so bored. I also would NEVER go from super amoled back to normal. Retina is good, but unless you are obsessed about not seeing pixels through a magnifying glass and don't really care about how vivid the colors, its not worth it.
 
I really like the Captivate and am glad I went for the Android. My wife got an iPhone when I got the Cappy in mid Nov. My phone worked fine, even the GPS - no problems. A week after we got them, wife's iPhone showed a dark smudge in the display - not the surface glass. Within 30 days, so the ATT store replaced it with a new one. Had to reregister again with iTunes. I was pretty smug. Then 6 weeks after purchase, my phone did the shut down thing four times in a week. I got a replacement with no trouble, but I was worried about the GPS since mine had always worked well. Relief, the new one is flawlwess so far. So we both needed to replace our phones- its a draw.

I am not an Apple basher. In fact I bought into Apple early with the original 128 Mac, ran my business with Macs and was even a VAR for Apple in the 90s. But, I really dislike iTunes, and forcing its use to do basic things to your phone is one of the prime reasons I chose Android. What could be simpler than connecting the cable to your computer, tapping twice on the phone and having it appear on the computer desktop like every other external device does? Then simply drag and drop! Maybe iTunes eliminates the couple of taps on the phone, but it sure makes it hard to just grab any old file from deep in the bowels of your hard drive and get it to the phone - unless, of course your whole computer is being monitored by iTunes! I also like the flexibility of Android, the Capitivate's screen is gorgeous and big, and I even like some of the original apps. And, there is a lot to be said for a removable, inespensive battery and the external SD card.

Now, I do recognize that there is fragmentation in the Android market. But what I do like about the market that Apple does not have going for it is the fact that many manufacturers are making devices and many developers are developing apps (yes, like for the iPhone.) With many more hardware developers, devices will keep leapfrogging features and hardware configurations. Then, in two years, when I am ready for a change, I know that Android phones will have many options to choose from. Rember that Apple had several years when they were virtually the only game in town, and they have rigidly set the rules for playing in their sandbox. Naturally, ther are more apps. But I feel that I am just scratching the surface of what's available now, and I cannot worry about a hundred thousand more or less! I will admit that I don't play many games, so I offer no opinion on that aspect. Finally, I think that the Android OS is easier to use than the iPhone. If I can point to one thing that makes the difference, it is that the AOS has a BACK button! Both my wife and I have been frustrated when trying to do simple things on the iPhone when there is no obvious way (in the app) to get back to a previous point. The iOS offers no help because it just gives you a big ole Home button for an interface!
 
db8max said:
I really like the Captivate and am glad I went for the Android. My wife got an iPhone when I got the Cappy in mid Nov. My phone worked fine, even the GPS - no problems. A week after we got them, wife's iPhone showed a dark smudge in the display - not the surface glass. Within 30 days, so the ATT store replaced it with a new one. Had to reregister again with iTunes. I was pretty smug. Then 6 weeks after purchase, my phone did the shut down thing four times in a week. I got a replacement with no trouble, but I was worried about the GPS since mine had always worked well. Relief, the new one is flawlwess so far. So we both needed to replace our phones- its a draw.

I am not an Apple basher. In fact I bought into Apple early with the original 128 Mac, ran my business with Macs and was even a VAR for Apple in the 90s. But, I really dislike iTunes, and forcing its use to do basic things to your phone is one of the prime reasons I chose Android. What could be simpler than connecting the cable to your computer, tapping twice on the phone and having it appear on the computer desktop like every other external device does? Then simply drag and drop! Maybe iTunes eliminates the couple of taps on the phone, but it sure makes it hard to just grab any old file from deep in the bowels of your hard drive and get it to the phone - unless, of course your whole computer is being monitored by iTunes! I also like the flexibility of Android, the Capitivate's screen is gorgeous and big, and I even like some of the original apps. And, there is a lot to be said for a removable, inespensive battery and the external SD card.

Now, I do recognize that there is fragmentation in the Android market. But what I do like about the market that Apple does not have going for it is the fact that many manufacturers are making devices and many developers are developing apps (yes, like for the iPhone.) With many more hardware developers, devices will keep leapfrogging features and hardware configurations. Then, in two years, when I am ready for a change, I know that Android phones will have many options to choose from. Rember that Apple had several years when they were virtually the only game in town, and they have rigidly set the rules for playing in their sandbox. Naturally, ther are more apps. But I feel that I am just scratching the surface of what's available now, and I cannot worry about a hundred thousand more or less! I will admit that I don't play many games, so I offer no opinion on that aspect. Finally, I think that the Android OS is easier to use than the iPhone. If I can point to one thing that makes the difference, it is that the AOS has a BACK button! Both my wife and I have been frustrated when trying to do simple things on the iPhone when there is no obvious way (in the app) to get back to a previous point. The iOS offers no help because it just gives you a big ole Home button for an interface!
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Well said sir
 
I just posted [most of] this in the Atrix area, but I figured I repost here as it's relevant:

The thing that's interesting about the two phones is their strengths are also their weaknesses.

Apple for example is a single company producing both the OS and hardware. So you get longer cycles between hardware and have limited choices (new phones, only 3GS or 4). However, that means there's a much fewer platforms to target (from a development perspective), so the OS is really tight and highly optimized for the hardware.

It also means a simpler channel for support - if your hardware or OS have issues, you can walk into an Apple store. With my Captivate, I'm dealing with a phone built by Samsung, running an open source OS by Google, which is subsequently modified by both Samsung AND AT&T (and currently hacked by me, using a ROM supplied by a guy in Utah, to make it run at my expected performance level :D).

Apple controls the apps rigidly on the iPhone (so no side loading, apps that Apple doesn't think are "appropriate" aren't made available), however that means their UIs are [more] consistent, and their control ALSO extends to the service provider which means no bloatware installed OOTB.

I'm not much of a fan of having to use a single app for things as simple as adding some MP3 files to your device, and that's compounded by iTunes running like poop on my two Windows machines. I think it's a little bloated and the way it handles photo sync (under Windows specifically) makes me nuts, it's simple to the point of not being usable (for the record, it's way more flexible under OSX).

However, I can also appreciate the fact that you plug in an iPhone and your contacts/email/calender is sync'ed, and your phone apps/photos/movies are all backed up and your OS is checked and updated as needed.

I think the comparison has more consideration than backgrounds/icons/widgets vs. not, though I do love my widgets :D
 
I bought the captivate because I enjoy the OLED screen, faster processing speeds and customization. You can get alot more out of an android phone given that it has good specs and the Galaxy S series of phones in near the top for phone specs.

Alot of my friends have Iphones and they are good smart phones but nothing more than that. They are what they are coming from apple unless you jailbreak them which i a pain in the butt compared to rooting and flashing a rom for the captivate which took me literally fifteen minutes.

Much like a Mac computer the IOS is a closed off operating system with decent specs that are for people who want everything laid out for them directly. Good if you do not know anything or dont care to research anything on your own but it allows for zero customization and open source is not a phrase apple likes.
 
gdfella99 said:
Much like a Mac computer the IOS is a closed off operating system with decent specs that are for people who want everything laid out for them directly. Good if you do not know anything or dont care to research anything on your own but it allows for zero customization and open source is not a phrase apple likes.
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I was with you up until this. You should probably research OSX a little bit, check out all the open source development, realize that Apple funded, the open source WebKit project that Safari, Chrome and the Android/iOS browsers are based on, and that they're pushing a number of open technologies for the web. OSX is also a highly customizable, extensible OS (that supports running Windows, Linux, etc.)

I'm with you on your other points though :)
 
I'm a huge fan of customization, and I was dead sick and bored of my ipod touch's UI. Now I know there's a lot you can do with it after jailbreaking, but to me, I found android to be a lot more readily customizable.

In terms of apps... I won't deny it. The iphone has the advantage... BUT. Here's my personal experience. I was really excited when I got an ipod touch, loaded that thing with apps and everything that was "fun." But soon after, I never really touched those apps again. Games are fun, but you get tired of them. Android market does get ports of good games, and some great originals (I was addicted to defensoid for a while).

In the end, all I use on my ipod touch and android phone are just simple basic apps... that both support. In the beginning it seems all exciting and all to have a larger reservoir of apps, but in the end, it all boils down to apps YOU will be using all the time. Here's one thing for sure though: a lot of those apps on an iphone, you can use on an ipod touch. Those android apps... you best get an android phone.
 
Caleb220 said:
I cant believe you are ALL complaining about lack of games on Android. Do you not know that the captivate is a freaking powerhouse? There are emulators on the android market. (granted, they take time to get the hang of installing roms) That is what I do and I am enjoying street fighter, metal gear solid, need for speed, mario kart, and many others.
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Most people like to keep their gaming at a legal level. Almost everyone playing ROMs on emulators is obtaining them illegally.

Me personally, I just prefer having games that are actually designed for the device I'm playing them on. They look better. I had my period of playing those old games from old gaming consoles. I'm beyond that now. I want something that is designed for the 800x480 screen and the power under the hood.

That said, Android is catching up. Fast. Developers no longer can ignore or dismiss it as a tiny fringe market. More Android devices are being sold than iPhones.

Android runs down iPhone in the Smartphone Races | ZDNet
 
I own both phone. Iphone4 feel like a luxury phone while captivate is not. Iphone4 have a better resell value. I would get iphone4. I got captivate because wanting a android OS.
 
Caleb220 said:
I cant believe you are ALL complaining about lack of games on Android. Do you not know that the captivate is a freaking powerhouse? There are emulators on the android market. (granted, they take time to get the hang of installing roms) That is what I do and I am enjoying street fighter, metal gear solid, need for speed, mario kart, and many others. I came from an iphone. I was actually a major fanboy. Then I actually tried android and I never looked back. I use the captivate now and whenever I use an iphone, i get so bored. I also would NEVER go from super amoled back to normal. Retina is good, but unless you are obsessed about not seeing pixels through a magnifying glass and don't really care about how vivid the colors, its not worth it.
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What good is a powerhouse with the games? I own the HD2 as well as the Captivate and now iPhone4. The HD2 was a powerhouse to end all powerhouse Win Mo phones. What good is the hardware without the software to back it up? Now I am in the reverse. I started with WinMo, went to Android and now going to the iPhone4. Yes, the Captivate screen is still better than anything out there. Too bad the software side is just so lacking. Anyone that says otherwise is just making excuses. It might get better but then I was expecting it to get better last summer when Android officially exploded sales wise.
 
randy_c said:
I own both phone. Iphone4 feel like a luxury phone while captivate is not. Iphone4 have a better resell value. I would get iphone4. I got captivate because wanting a android OS.
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I am now in the same boat. After playing around with both I am leaning towards the iPhone4. Previous iPhone's were lacking in my opinion but this version finally puts it to the top. Each phone has its pros and cons, we cannot forget that. And every user is drawn to a specific device based on these pros and cons and their own needs, bias, specific tastes.

I started with Win Mo, moved to Android and while Windows 7 Phone looks promising I just wanted a break from the customizations. A break from custom roms, a break from a phone that was great in many ways but missed something important. Like real software support - vendor and 3rd party, like functionality that wasn't hindered by using a custom rom, or hampered by bloatware. Lets face it - custom roms never delivered a pure 100% user experience. They always lacked something or broke something. This is coming from someone that has blasted roms since XDA came into existence and hacked their first HTC phone.

I know fully well what I am getting into and what I am giving up. But so far so good. My iPad apps that were universal carried over. Even my VLC player so I can play my DIVX, XVID movies. Nice.

Is my situation now perfect? No. My perfect device would be the Samsung Focus with Windows 7 Phone with the iPhone app support, and USB access to the storage system. Without this I am going to the second best option, in my opinion.

Captivate is now demoted to work phone status.
 
It will be interesting to see what Apple comes out with in June, rumors so far are a 4" screen and dual core. Add to that the fact that iTunes will be going away and it's functionality moved into Safari, it's going to be interesting going forward.
 
Cuerbo said:
It will be interesting to see what Apple comes out with in June, rumors so far are a 4" screen and dual core. Add to that the fact that iTunes will be going away and it's functionality moved into Safari, it's going to be interesting going forward.
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I don't see a 4" display happening. That would reduce the PPI which has been a major selling point, and a tiny incremental boost in resolution required to maintain the 326 PPI at 4" would be a development/design nightmare.

Definitely the new "A5" processor, which is supposed to be ~2-2.5 times faster than the current CPU/GPU, and should make its way into the iPad2 and the next Gen Apple TV (since it handily decides 1080P video). Probably slightly underlocked for the phone implementation.

The iPhone 5 seems like it will be less of an upgrade this time around, since there's not a ton of major things missing, just components that can be incrementally updated (CPU/GPU, maybe the cameras). The iPad seems like the iOS device that will get the most major updates (don't mean to go too far off topic on this...)
 
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