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Agreed we we're all noobs at one point gatta learn through trial and error. I wouldn't worry though someone will get you up and running again. Did you try restoring the nandroid backup?

Heh yea I use google voice partially because I like the wifi, but I also love the ability to text and call while my phones eh... unusable?

Leslie I guess I got a few more of those below my belt now lol
 
taco1425 said:
i guess it is good i have a straight talk phone i can use until i get it fixed
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well testing,romming,etc is going to kick start big time within days if not by the end of the day. leslie is going to drop some big rom goodness when shes able to get to it. and harmonia will be lighting fast on the elite. and she has two other variants (not sure if they are slated for the elite but if they are they are pretty damned good also) they may be for elite also. so id say within days youll have something to flash back to the device. they may need a few tweaks here and there but overall you're going to like harmonia. i wouldnt go back through the whole process of reflashing the jcase root tot,although you could and it would work if you needed to. id just hold tight for a day or so and grab a rom
 
Google Voice? It's a VoIP. I give people my google voice number instead of my cell phone number then from any browser (PC or Smartphone) I can text and place calls. Then there are apps to install on android to access it wihout the browser (more integrated into the actual phone). I can also call and text over wifi (my original reason for getting it as I live where service is very minimum so I like the ability to use my phone over wifi). It's a big buggy, no mms, but if you can deal with a little tweaking and using email for pictures which isn't too hard now that everyone has smart phones its a nice service.
 
LacWare said:
We just need a rom for you to flash then (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I'm not all that great with this stuff but I don't think it will be long before someone comes up with a rom for us. I know Leslie Ann said hers were available via PM when I get a response from her I'll send one your way.

If you did a backup you should be able to just restore that backup? Unless this is more of an issue then I'm seeing. If you can access your recovery I'm sure someone with a little more then me can guide you back
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Yeah, is ClockworkMod rebooting around two minutes after it boots up?

If you can be quick about it, maybe you could try writing the system.img back with the dd command as soon as CWM loads up. Even if it currently has the reboot at ~2min problem, you prob have enough time to connect with ADB to transfer the file to the phone and dd it back in place if you're quick.

I'm not sure if you would have enough time (if it has the reboot problem) to restore a complete nandroid, but you could try
 
Good call didn't think of the fact that it's the system partition that holds it from rebooting. Whats this going to do as far as flashing roms? I mean you usually want to wipe the system partition before installing roms, are we going to be able to wipe the partition without it rebooting before the new rom is installed?
 
LacWare said:
Good call didn't think of the fact that it's the system partition that holds it from rebooting. Whats this going to do as far as flashing roms? I mean you usually want to wipe the system partition before installing roms, are we going to be able to wipe the partition without it rebooting before the new rom is installed?
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In my experience, the only things you really should do before flashing a ROM is to wipe data, wipe cache and wipe dalvik cache. I've never had to format /system.
 
Doesn't that leave the system folder to just be written over? thus leaving all your old apps that may not be included in the new rom? I've always been in the habit of wiping System, Data, Cache when installing a new rom and Data, Cache when upgrading to a new version of the same rom
 
I was also under the impression you need to format system when you flash a new rom. At least we always did on the optimus v
 
LacWare said:
Doesn't that leave the system folder to just be written over? thus leaving all your old apps that may not be included in the new rom? I've always been in the habit of wiping System, Data, Cache when installing a new rom and Data, Cache when upgrading to a new version of the same rom
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Good point. I wonder if that will be a problem. I've just never formatted /system myself when installing CM9 or CM 10. Perhaps a format trigger is built into some ZIPs, I don't know.

I suppose one workaround might be padding the system.img that will be flashed with zeros so it occupies the entire partition ( if it doesn't already). It still may be risky.
 
I know the devs used to recommend formating system when switching roms but wasn't required if upgrading current rom.

If switching roms you want to get all the old system junk off so new rom has empty slate
 
Some developers do include it in the rom, it's all in the update-script within the rom. I mean I guess you could just install it over and just manually delete the remaining apps. I just personally like to have a clean slate when installing a new rom (or in my most common situation operating systems on my pc)

Imagine installing linux over windows without formatting (yea yea filesystems just for the sake of argument though) you'd be left with a lot of files that you don't need on that drive.
 
ktb83 said:
In my experience, the only things you really should do before flashing a ROM is to wipe data, wipe cache and wipe dalvik cache. I've never had to format /system.
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Aha, that term again - Dalvik.

After a week of Googling, I never got a straight answer on just what the Dalvik cache does, is for, etc. So perhaps someone can give a definitive answer here?
Sorry, this is just an old inquiry from a month or so ago.

Also, I don't see wiping the Dalvik cache as an option on the screenshot for CWM, just cache. Does cache cover both the cache and Dalvik cache?

Also, I thought only Factory Reset wiped only your user apps and data? Not system? How do you format/wipe the system for a clean install of a new ROM, and how would that affect the system? (IE: If installing a ROM doesn't mess with the system, then wouldn't formatting the system leave that directory blank, and thus you wouldn't even have SystemUI post-ROM?)

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For those of us who are noobs, or the closest thing to flashing anything was having to learn and google various parts of the jcase method just to be able to do it - and then doing so later - can those of us answer some very basic and seemingly-obvious questions so we can get it compiled in a single page on the forums (as opposed to scattered all over Google, for the new people here)?

1. What is a Nandroid Backup?
a. How do you do one?

2. Once we get CWM installed, what do we do next?
a. Where, exactly, do we put the recovery on the phone?
b. How, exactly, do we put the recovery on the phone?
c. When, exactly, do we put the recovery on the phone (is there is a certain timing involved or not)?

3. Okay, so now we've got our device(s) backed up a la Nandroid, and the ROM file(s) on the phone itself, what are the precise steps to flashing the ROM? (Additionally: precise commands if ADB is involved, and on desk/laptop or terminal emulator on the phone itself?)
a. And how?
b. And once we've done so, do we just reboot like nothing happened and it's magically installed and finish?
c. And, finally, will (or should) all of our app+data from before flashing the ROM and/or installing CWM still be intact, or do we have to do a factory reset at some point in this whole process?

Sincerely,
You-guys-are-making-fantastic-progress-but-I-don't-want-to-stab-the-air-and-brick-my-phone(-again).
 
worst case scenario, you could boot up and do wipes with one two minute allotment,reboot back into recovery to restart two minutes and start a ROM flash immediately. shouldn't take two minutes but could. depends on ROM size.
 
Holy crap this is getting exciting. I have been watching this since it's inception. Great Job GP!! I am pretty experienced with running commands via adb, just not sure I want to tempt fate since this is my only method of communication!!! lol Once we get a few more guineas, I will try it out!!

Can't wait to see the end result and get some yummy ROM goodness!! :)
 
bobloadmire said:
September 19, 2012. 6:43 PM

(Greenwich Mean Time)
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Guees you weren't too far off bobladmire heh.

Artine said:
Aha, that term again - Dalvik.

After a week of Googling, I never got a straight answer on just what the Dalvik cache does, is for, etc. So perhaps someone can give a definitive answer here?
Sorry, this is just an old inquiry from a month or so ago.

Also, I don't see wiping the Dalvik cache as an option on the screenshot for CWM, just cache. Does cache cover both the cache and Dalvik cache?

Also, I thought only Factory Reset wiped only your user apps and data? Not system? How do you format/wipe the system for a clean install of a new ROM, and how would that affect the system? (IE: If installing a ROM doesn't mess with the system, then wouldn't formatting the system leave that directory blank, and thus you wouldn't even have SystemUI post-ROM?)
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Also, for those of us who are noobs, or the closest thing to flashing anything was having to learn and google various parts of the jcase method just to be able to do it - and then doing so later - can those of us answer some very basic and seemingly-obvious questions so we can get it compiled in a single page on the forums (as opposed to scattered all over Google, for the new people here)?

1. What is a Nandroid Backup?
a. How do you do one?

2. Once we get CWM installed, what do we do next?
a. Where, exactly, do we put the recovery on the phone?
b. How, exactly, do we put the recovery on the phone?
c. When, exactly, do we put the recovery on the phone (is there is a certain timing involved or not)

3. Okay, so now we've got our device(s) backed up a la Nandroid, and the ROM file(s) on the phone itself, what are the precise steps to flashing the ROM? (Additionally: precise commands if ADB is involved, and on desk/laptop or terminal emulator on the phone itself?)
a. And how?
b. And once we've done so, do we just reboot like nothing happened and it's magically installed and finish?
c. And, finally, will (or should) all of our app+data from before flashing the ROM and/or installing CWM still be intact, or do we have to do a factory reset at some point in this whole process?

Sincerely,
You-guys-are-making-fantastic-progress-but-I-don't-want-to-stab-the-air-and-brick-my-phone-again.
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Alrigh I'll touch on what I can

When you want to format/wipe the system you go into the mounts and storage there will be a menu of partitions to wipe

When you install a new rom it installs a new system folder all included within the zip

1. A nandroid backup is a backup of all the partitions so if anything goes wrong as long as you can get to recovery you can restore your phone back to exactly what it was (I highly suggest doing this before installing any rom, and also periodically just in case)
There is a menu backup and restore that allows you to access the nandroid menu

2. Once CWM is installed we can start messing around with the parts of the roms that can really mess up the phone because now if it is bricked we can go back to where we were thanks to the previously mentioned nandroid backup. Also we have the option to flash different roms (ICS/Jelly Bean may be made available)
As far as installing it... read this thread thats what its all about

3. TBD as we just found the system partition glitch but it should be as simple as selecting install zip from sdcard and selecting the rom zip file.


anything more then that I request you start a new thread somewhere so we don't highjack this one any more then it just was.

Curtis1973 said:
worst case scenario, you could boot up and do wipes with one two minute allotment,reboot back into recovery to restart two minutes and start a ROM flash immediately. shouldn't take two minutes but could. depends on ROM size.
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I was thinking something along that line, I guess we just need to wait for a rom to try to flash and see what happens.
 
How about trying android commander it does a lot and if you have a pc or laptop you can flash roms sign apps and more check it out
 
Artine said:
Aha, that term again - Dalvik.

After a week of Googling, I never got a straight answer on just what the Dalvik cache does, is for, etc. So perhaps someone can give a definitive answer here?
Sorry, this is just an old inquiry from a month or so ago.

Also, I don't see wiping the Dalvik cache as an option on the screenshot for CWM, just cache. Does cache cover both the cache and Dalvik cache?

Also, I thought only Factory Reset wiped only your user apps and data? Not system? How do you format/wipe the system for a clean install of a new ROM, and how would that affect the system? (IE: If installing a ROM doesn't mess with the system, then wouldn't formatting the system leave that directory blank, and thus you wouldn't even have SystemUI post-ROM?)

-----------

For those of us who are noobs, or the closest thing to flashing anything was having to learn and google various parts of the jcase method just to be able to do it - and then doing so later - can those of us answer some very basic and seemingly-obvious questions so we can get it compiled in a single page on the forums (as opposed to scattered all over Google, for the new people here)?

1. What is a Nandroid Backup?
a. How do you do one?

2. Once we get CWM installed, what do we do next?
a. Where, exactly, do we put the recovery on the phone?
b. How, exactly, do we put the recovery on the phone?
c. When, exactly, do we put the recovery on the phone (is there is a certain timing involved or not)?

3. Okay, so now we've got our device(s) backed up a la Nandroid, and the ROM file(s) on the phone itself, what are the precise steps to flashing the ROM? (Additionally: precise commands if ADB is involved, and on desk/laptop or terminal emulator on the phone itself?)
a. And how?
b. And once we've done so, do we just reboot like nothing happened and it's magically installed and finish?
c. And, finally, will (or should) all of our app+data from before flashing the ROM and/or installing CWM still be intact, or do we have to do a factory reset at some point in this whole process?

Sincerely,
You-guys-are-making-fantastic-progress-but-I-don't-want-to-stab-the-air-and-brick-my-phone(-again).
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I have one answer.. The dalvik cache wipe is in advanced.
 
LacWare said:
anything more then that I request you start a new thread somewhere so we don't highjack this one any more then it just was.
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Yeah, my apologies. Seemed relevant, though.
In any case, I hope your response makes it clearer for the newer people here. Thank you!
 
No apologies necessary I was more saying it might be nice to start a thread specifically for this as there are some things there that I don't know and I do agree that it would be nice to have all this in one place. Relevant I agree people should know what they're getting into especially since this is a bit of a hassle phone.
 
Here's another test build. Download part_13_cwm_9_21_11_54.bin from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way
Please check the md5 before and after flashing. 814c897181eb4e6363bdadaa63116bf9

Changes include:
* disable signature checking by default
* dont try to install an update if the command is only "CACHE:". This should make it not complain when it is told to install "CACHE:" with no filename
* probably fix the reboot after 2 minute issue without mounting /system at startup. The side effect is that now /system is not mounted automagically. You should be able to mount/unmount/format /system now without it rebooting. I only tested mountt/unmount. You're on you own if you feel brave enough to format it
 
We're nearly there! Keep it up guys, and may the force be with you!

And the FAQ thread is up now and ready for input!
 
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