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chrlswltrs said:
I have had a couple people pm me an email address to activate their box.net accounts from my iPad so they could have 50GB free. Anyone else want to take advantage of that, I'm more than willing to hook some more people up. :cool:
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nvm i got it. had to sign up from the app
 
mills23 said:
Which one is this?
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That would be Google :D

Picasa, docs, gmail, etc...

I pay them for the storage because I have so many pictures on Picasa. With Google music you can actually store 20,000 songs in the cloud for free without it counting against any of your storage.
 
Data cappers need to consider that though the storage may be free, the usage is not (when using 3g & 4g).
 
chrlswltrs said:
That would be Google :D

Picasa, docs, gmail, etc...

I pay them for the storage because I have so many pictures on Picasa. With Google music you can actually store 20,000 songs in the cloud for free without it counting against any of your storage.
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Where do I find this at?
 
mills23 said:
Where do I find this at?
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Find what? How to add storage? It is in your account settings where it shows you how much of your storage you are using there is an upgrade link.

For Google Music go to www.google.com/music. It is still in Beta and by invitation only right now, so you might not be able to get it right away. You can sign up and wait for an invitation though.
 
eyetek said:
As I stated in the Prime thread I have been using cloud space for a couple years now...I use different services for different files. Music is kept in one cloud service while photos are in another and I use Dropbox for business files that I need to update on the go day by day.

Cloud storage is a big push for the tech industry going forward so we must become accustom to it going forward and find ways to make it work for us...it does work even if you are going to be in an area with little of no coverage with a little foresight and planning ahead even for your music and videos!

I wanted to share a service that I have been researching lately, it is a cloud service created on your own home computer and the software is free for 30 days and then if you want the key to unlock the premium features you need to make a donation. It is open sourced and multiple third party UI's are available for all OS systems and mobile devices.

Take a look at Subsonic

It does take some setup on your part but the logic is that you control the cloud space, it is on your own network and uses your own hard drive and router. You have as much control in the security as you want to put into it. This service is sold as a music streamer but it also does video streaming with a little work and can handle all of your other files in you want.

Anyway I thought I would share this service with you as I am about to give it a go myself and at least do the 30 day trial and see how it works. I have a link to a guide that I will be using to set this up and you can find it below.

A Complete Guide to setting up SubSonic (Windows/Android)
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Thanks to this wonderful post, I am now using subsonic. It works great but I haven't been using it enough to give it a real test. Thanks for this information.
 
I'm a big fan of Dropbox, because it is dead simple to use and syncs to everything I own.

I came across this article on LifeHacker the other day that I thought could be useful for people in this thread :) I've doubled my space since setting this up.

Lifehacker - How to Get 8GB+ Extra Dropbox Space for Free with Google AdWords

If you don't already have Dropbox and want to try the Lifehacker suggestion, please consider signing up using my referral link: http://db.tt/vIdrArD


Thanks to the OP for starting this thread.
 
Pictures are the only thing that tends to accumulate on my device. I'll just offload them in USB dock every now and then -- there's enough storage on the device to handle my pictures.

My music is Google Music (cloud based).

I don't care about "documents" -- those would almost always be either attachments to emails (cloud) or Google Docs (cloud).

I guess that leaves movies to watch, but those need to be hosted on the device for offline viewing.

So no big deal for me.
 
You guys trust this cloud storage from these companies like dropbox and the lot?

Your documents, photos, videos, etc.. are no longer private.

Who knows if the admin wants to take your stuff to use, sell, or anything else.

Right now I'm staying far away from clouds (except for music) and sticking to my trusty hard drive that unknown employees don't have access to.
 
jamor said:
If we have learned anything over the past decade in the economic turmoil is that we can't trust our money or information with anybody.
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You trust your information with people every single day.

You have an email account, right? Ever used it to email one of these documents or photos that you want private and don't trust uploading to "the cloud"?

Maybe a Facebook account? What about an Amazon.com shopping account? Ever clicked the "store my credit card for future use"? Ever even submit your credit card anywhere? Ever share a password between two online accounts of any kind? Do you install applications on your computer where you have to grant it administrative privileges in order to install it (either installing it as the local admin account, or clicking "yes" when it prompts you that it needs privileges)? Did you root your phone and install any root apps?

Do you realize that every single one of these things involves a massive level of trust that could be abused? Email isn't secure. It's transmitted and stored on any number of servers. Any time you install an app on your computer or phone, you totally lose visibility of what it is doing - it could be doing anything.

"The Cloud" isn't new. It's just becoming more known and understood by the average person. You've been storing your data in and sending it through "the cloud" for years.
 
"The FBI, Homeland Security, IRS, etc will have unlimited access to the iCloud with (or without) a warrant."
 
binary visions said:
You trust your information with people every single day.

You have an email account, right? Ever used it to email one of these documents or photos that you want private and don't trust uploading to "the cloud"?

Maybe a Facebook account? What about an Amazon.com shopping account? Ever clicked the "store my credit card for future use"? Ever even submit your credit card anywhere? Ever share a password between two online accounts of any kind? Do you install applications on your computer where you have to grant it administrative privileges in order to install it (either installing it as the local admin account, or clicking "yes" when it prompts you that it needs privileges)? Did you root your phone and install any root apps?

Do you realize that every single one of these things involves a massive level of trust that could be abused? Email isn't secure. It's transmitted and stored on any number of servers. Any time you install an app on your computer or phone, you totally lose visibility of what it is doing - it could be doing anything.

"The Cloud" isn't new. It's just becoming more known and understood by the average person. You've been storing your data in and sending it through "the cloud" for years.
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It's a very important discussion I'm glad you're engaging.

You make good points and I realize that we already give away lots of information on a daily basis.

I don't think the credit card part applies here because anyone can get charges reversed for fraudulent charges so that's never really been an issue (especially if you have American Express, they are amazing about fraud).

Uploading your tax return or things of that nature to clouds however is much different because they have actual documents with a plethora of information and SS, etc.

I have a lot of personal information stored with Google. Hell they probably could dig up anything they could ever want to know about me.

Hell my XBOX live ID is my last name (yea its that unique) so no I'm not completely paranoid... just trying to drive discussion on the implications of cloud storage.

I worry about the smaller companies like dropbox and all of the start ups. Google is an established company. All of these startup companies with cloud storage I just don't trust yet. Who are these people? How many employees do they have? How much access do they have to your files? Gotta find these things out.
 
this is a message for chrlswltrs. I sent you a pm and it said your inbox was full and could not accept anymore. I was interested in that box.net deal if you are still doing it.
 
jeep_man said:
this is a message for chrlswltrs. I sent you a pm and it said your inbox was full and could not accept anymore. I was interested in that box.net deal if you are still doing it.
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I cleaned out my inbox, you can PM me now. I'll give it a shot, but I don't remember how long the promotion was going on.
 
I saw the co-founder of box.net on Millionaire Matchmakers. Hardcore nerd but he's got the skrill (but not enough to get a woman to sleep with him apparently).

Those guys founded box.net in their dorm room in 2005.
 
jamor said:
I worry about the smaller companies like dropbox and all of the start ups. Google is an established company. All of these startup companies with cloud storage I just don't trust yet. Who are these people? How many employees do they have? How much access do they have to your files?
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You're right not to trust them. Dropbox was caught flat out lying about security / privacy when they originally claimed that customer data was stored encrypted such that even Dropbox employees couldn't read it. Someone realized that Dropbox was using deduping on their servers -- which is only possible if they could examine the data -- so they had to "clarify" their ToS.

What some people do is use a cloud storage service to store a large TrueCrypt volume rather than individual files. It's more work, but guarantees they can't view your data (well, unless maybe they're the NSA).
 
BlueBiker said:
You're right not to trust them. Dropbox was caught flat out lying about security / privacy when they originally claimed that customer data was stored encrypted such that even Dropbox employees couldn't read it. Someone realized that Dropbox was using deduping on their servers -- which is only possible if they could examine the data -- so they had to "clarify" their ToS.

What some people do is use a cloud storage service to store a large TrueCrypt volume rather than individual files. It's more work, but guarantees they can't view your data (well, unless maybe they're the NSA).
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Nice find - I feel a lot less paranoid and a lot more rational now.

And thanks for the tip.
 
BlueBiker said:
You're right not to trust them. Dropbox was caught flat out lying about security / privacy when they originally claimed that customer data was stored encrypted such that even Dropbox employees couldn't read it. Someone realized that Dropbox was using deduping on their servers -- which is only possible if they could examine the data -- so they had to "clarify" their ToS.

What some people do is use a cloud storage service to store a large TrueCrypt volume rather than individual files. It's more work, but guarantees they can't view your data (well, unless maybe they're the NSA).
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LOL! NSA?!? What does that stand for? "Naughty Slime Ape"?!? Don't you mean NASA? Get your spelling right, kiddo.
 
I don't believe I'll need any paid cloud storage. Anything I can't get on the 32GB, I have the following I can use:

1. Google Music for streaming music that might not reside on my SD card.
2. Motocast/Zumocast ---I have the .apk file and it is working fine on my Incredible. No reason it shouldn't work on my Nexus. So I can access all media on my PC from my phone (movies, pics, music, etc.)
3. Dish/Slingbox---My baby for when I need to get my college football fix right on my phone!!!!
 
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