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Comparing EVO plan to other national carriers

Another reason that this comparison will never be 100% even-handed is the special features different phones have.

For example, the mobile hotspot feature is FREE for Verizon's Palm Pre Plus. Does that mean in order to compare the plans with Sprint, you have to add the $30 Sprint charges for the EVO's hotspot?
 
jmxp69 said:
Well, that's a good question. Prior to Android I never had a phone with options for the GPS application. I think with VZW, regardless of whether you purchased the GPS application which you subscribed to and downloaded via GIN, GPS 911 location services worked; however, you had to subscribe via GIN for the navigation application. I suppose with Android, those rules change with Google nav. Can anybody confirm fee-free use of GPS NAV on a VZW Android devices?
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Just talked to a buddy with a DI. Google nav comes on it and is free. (Not locked or charged for by Verizon)
 
RedsGT said:
Just talked to a buddy with a DI. Google nav comes on it and is free. (Not locked or charged for by Verizon)
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That brings up another good point. If SprintNav is free on the EVO, but VZW Navigator costs $10 on the DIncredible, then do we add $10 to the VZW comparison plan?
 
esone1ll said:
That brings up another good point. If SprintNav is free on the EVO, but VZW Navigator costs $10 on the DIncredible, then do we add $10 to the VZW comparison plan?
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I don't think so. Nav is Nav. As long as you can use GPS for Navigation, I don't think it's fair to get into an app-to-app comparison because that would be highly subjective.
 
jmxp69 said:
I don't think so. Nav is Nav. As long as you can use GPS for Navigation, I don't think it's fair to get into an app-to-app comparison because that would be highly subjective.
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I don't think "Nav is Nav." A lot of it comes down to the app's accuracy, ease of use, updates, features (traffic), and so on.

For example, the iPhone doesn't have free navigation at all.

BUT the TomTom app doesn't require a data connection to be used -- the maps are stored locally. This is not like SprintNav OR Google Nav, which require a data connection (and therefore suck down battery power, and might perform a bit slower).
 
esone1ll said:
I don't think "Nav is Nav." A lot of it comes down to the app's accuracy, ease of use, updates, features (traffic), and so on.

For example, the iPhone doesn't have free navigation at all.

BUT the TomTom app doesn't require a data connection to be used -- the maps are stored locally. This is not like SprintNav OR Google Nav, which require a data connection (and therefore suck down battery power, and might perform a bit slower).
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This is meant to be a price comparison, not a feature review. If the phone supports Nav without add'l charges, then it shouldn't be illustrated as a delta in a price comparison. Otherwise we'll have to start assessing value to the ability of iPhone to sync natively to iTunes, or assessing value to gmail sync on Android. Not a beneficial effort IMHO for this discussion.
 
jmxp69 said:
This is meant to be a price comparison, not a feature review. If the phone supports Nav without add'l charges, then it shouldn't be illustrated as a delta in a price comparison. Otherwise we'll have to start assessing value to the ability of iPhone to sync natively to iTunes, or assessing value to gmail sync on Android. Not a beneficial effort IMHO for this discussion.
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I'm not knocking the comparison; I think it's very valuable to see it all laid out there.

I'm just saying -- there are a lot of mitigating factors that affect how a consumer might see the plans. If I require offline navigation, then I might opt for an iPhone; if I need a 3G hotspot badly and don't care about much else, the VZW Palm Pre Plus is a good deal.
 
jmxp69 said:
What about iPhone? That didn't even have Nav until recently did it??
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iPhone doesn't feature integrated navigation - you can buy an app for it though.

Pretty surprising in this day and age, but really up until last year they couldn't even take video or send picture messages :p
 
SprintFun said:
iPhone doesn't feature integrated navigation - you can buy an app for it though.

Pretty surprising in this day and age, but really up until last year they couldn't even take video or send picture messages :p
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It goes to show that Apple's success has little to do with features, and more to do with polish and marketing.
 
Wonder what Sprint will do if anyone always comes up $10 short in payment? How long will they let it go? Can't wait to see if anyone who's complaining/protesting the charge actually does this.
 
Rigmaster said:
Wonder what Sprint will do if anyone always comes up $10 short in payment? How long will they let it go? Can't wait to see if anyone who's complaining/protesting the charge actually does this.
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They'll report the offenders to collection agencies, and after a long enough time of nonpayment, they'll cancel service.
 
esone1ll said:
I'm not knocking the comparison; I think it's very valuable to see it all laid out there.

I'm just saying -- there are a lot of mitigating factors that affect how a consumer might see the plans. If I require offline navigation, then I might opt for an iPhone; if I need a 3G hotspot badly and don't care about much else, the VZW Palm Pre Plus is a good deal.
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I understand what you're saying, and there's certainly merit in debating application features/capabilities, but the OP is trying to make a simple side-by-side price comparison. Debating app feature/functionality really belongs in another thread. So, I prefer to get back on topic and stick with the original point.

OP: Does iPhone have free Nav? And what about extrapolating the original over 2, 3, 4, 5 lines? That's where I think we'll really see the difference show up.
 
SprintFun said:
iPhone doesn't feature integrated navigation - you can buy an app for it though.

Pretty surprising in this day and age, but really up until last year they couldn't even take video or send picture messages :p
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One time charge then for Nav on iPhone. Probably not warranted for comparison here given the wild fluctuations in one time charges when buying handsets. If it's not a recurring charge or a ridiculous one time charge then I'd consider that a wash.
 
jmxp69 said:
One time charge then for Nav on iPhone. Probably not warranted for comparison here given the wild fluctuations in one time charges when buying handsets. If it's not a recurring charge or a ridiculous one time charge then I'd consider that a wash.
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The iPhone nav apps are upwards of $100 for the one-time charge.
 
esone1ll said:
That brings up another good point. If SprintNav is free on the EVO, but VZW Navigator costs $10 on the DIncredible, then do we add $10 to the VZW comparison plan?
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I am redsgt's friend with the Incredible. There is no VZW Navigator that I have found. The android navigation app is included and free.
 
jmxp69 said:
:eek::eek::eek: Wow! Then I think, per phone, it should be divided by 24 and added to the monthly recurring charges to be fair.
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AT&T also offers their own app, which is free up front, but it adds $10 monthly recurring charge, I believe.
 
esone1ll said:
AT&T also offers their own app, which is free up front, but it adds $10 monthly recurring charge, I believe.
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Either way, the ATT plan should show incremental charges for GPS Nav then.

RedsGT: Nice work. I hope you show the additional lines though.
 
jmxp69 said:
I understand what you're saying, and there's certainly merit in debating application features/capabilities, but the OP is trying to make a simple side-by-side price comparison. Debating app feature/functionality really belongs in another thread. So, I prefer to get back on topic and stick with the original point.

OP: Does iPhone have free Nav? And what about extrapolating the original over 2, 3, 4, 5 lines? That's where I think we'll really see the difference show up.
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iPhone nav through AT&T is $10.00 a month. Other iPhone nav apps have a wide range of prices.

I'm thinking of changing the AT&T comparison to an AT&T N1, but then you wouldn't be under contract, which changes things...
 
What you posted for T-Mobile was their "Even More" plans, which is their regular contract plans. T-Mobile also offers "Even More Plus" plans. With theses, you don't sign a contract, but you get no phone subsidy. But, they let you set up the phone you buy on a no-interest payment plan. The plans are all $20 less monthly for an Even More Plus plan, so the plan and features you posted for T-Mobile would be $59.99 on an Even More Plus plan. Definitely not a bad deal. If they only had the Evo.
 
ashykat said:
What you posted for T-Mobile was their "Even More" plans, which is their regular contract plans. T-Mobile also offers "Even More Plus" plans. With theses, you don't sign a contract, but you get no phone subsidy. But, they let you set up the phone you buy on a no-interest payment plan. The plans are all $20 less monthly for an Even More Plus plan, so the plan and features you posted for T-Mobile would be $59.99 on an Even More Plus plan. Definitely not a bad deal. If they only had the Evo.
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Only because it seems like the majority of people on here will be adding or renewing contacts to get the phone, or are still under contract from their last phone.
 
My girlfriend just called Sprint and they ONLY have 2-year contracts. No 1-year or month-by-month? What is this shiet.
 
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