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Funny. I never considered BB as an actual smartphone. It's a great phone to be sure, but I always imagined that the people who use it use it more as a feature phone.
 
snapper.fishes said:
Funny. I never considered BB as an actual smartphone. It's a great phone to be sure, but I always imagined that the people who use it use it more as a feature phone.
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That's actually quite ironic because I was feeling the same as I read this article.

Back a few years ago when BlackBerrys were very popular, especially in the corporate world, I always considered them to be smartphones and nothing else to take their place. Now, they're just really big, ugly phones that only fans use because they hate change. I was surprised because according to this, it seemed as though they were saying that the BlackBerry is more popular than the iPhones...which may be true as BlackBerrys do cover almost all major and non-major networks now...but still...kind of shocking. I wonder what do they base this data on. Do they also count those who have ported over Android to their device such as Windows Mobile and iPhone users have, and do they also count iPhones that have been unlocked for networks that do not carry them, such as T-Mobile?
 
ndh777 said:
That's actually quite ironic because I was feeling the same as I read this article.

Back a few years ago when BlackBerrys were very popular, especially in the corporate world, I always considered them to be smartphones and nothing else to take their place. Now, they're just really big, ugly phones that only fans use because they hate change. I was surprised because according to this, it seemed as though they were saying that the BlackBerry is more popular than the iPhones...which may be true as BlackBerrys do cover almost all major and non-major networks now...but still...kind of shocking. I wonder what do they base this data on. Do they also count those who have ported over Android to their device such as Windows Mobile and iPhone users have, and do they also count iPhones that have been unlocked for networks that do not carry them, such as T-Mobile?
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Big and ugly? Not really. BB gives off a more professional feeling. Same as how many artists and architects use Macs because they look more professional while holding one. I have a few architect friends who always bring a Macbook Pro when meeting customers, but immediately switch back to Windows when they get back home. Call it hypocrisy if you want to, but first impressions are very important.

Also, blackberry phones don't have camera, which actually turns out to be a huge advantage. A lot of companies and government agencies do not allow phones with cameras while at work in order to protect confidential documents. You will be hard pressed to find any new phones without a camera.
 
snapper.fishes said:
Big and ugly? Not really. BB gives off a more professional feeling. Same as how many artists and architects use Macs because they look more professional while holding one. I have a few architect friends who always bring a Macbook Pro when meeting customers, but immediately switch back to Windows when they get back home. Call it hypocrisy if you want to, but first impressions are very important.

Also, blackberry phones don't have camera, which actually turns out to be a huge advantage. A lot of companies and government agencies do not allow phones with cameras while at work in order to protect confidential documents. You will be hard pressed to find any new phones without a camera.
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The professor I was talking about earlier works for the Department of Homeland Security...he also has a Droid and was telling us how when they enter a meeting are required to take the battery out of the phone and set it in plain sight because of what you're talking about. But he said that's for any phone...even flip phones.

Haha, nah, I see what people like your friends do. It makes them look professional, it's been the standard. Not at all hypocrisy.

I don't know...alot of my friends have BlackBerrys and the phones just look ugly to me. These friends don't work in the corporate world either, just a regular average paying job. I personally never liked the BlackBerrys so I have a bias against them :D
 
snapper.fishes said:
Funny. I never considered BB as an actual smartphone. It's a great phone to be sure, but I always imagined that the people who use it use it more as a feature phone.
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I always saw it as a phone for business. I started seeing them here at my office several years ago, probably just before the iPhone was released. I have one for work now and the business functions on it are very good. It integrates well with our business communications system. I never tried anything more on them since they are fairly well locked down.

ndh777 said:
Back a few years ago when BlackBerrys were very popular, especially in the corporate world, I always considered them to be smartphones and nothing else to take their place. Now, they're just really big, ugly phones that only fans use because they hate change. I was surprised because according to this, it seemed as though they were saying that the BlackBerry is more popular than the iPhones...which may be true as BlackBerrys do cover almost all major and non-major networks now...but still...kind of shocking.
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BlackBerrys have been around longer than the iPhone. It had a head start, particularly in the corporate world. When I wanted to get a personal smartphone, I did not choose a BB because I wanted a full screen phone. I did not like having a keyboard take up half the phone. I did not think they are ugly. The are just not the form factor that I like (full-size touch screen with slider keyboard).

ndh777 said:
The professor I was talking about earlier works for the Department of Homeland Security...he also has a Droid and was telling us how when they enter a meeting are required to take the battery out of the phone and set it in plain sight because of what you're talking about. But he said that's for any phone...even flip phones.
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Good luck trying that with phones that have non-removable batteries like the iPhone or Nokia N8/E7.;)
 
ndh777 said:
... when they enter a meeting are required to take the battery out of the phone and set it in plain sight because of what you're talking about. But he said that's for any phone...even flip phones...
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Yeah... that should work well. It's not like they could get their hands on a spare battery or anything.
 
Android still has some work to do in Canada as it has only 8% of the market share, tied with RIM. Apple has a whopping 77% here.
 
So carrying an iPhone sends a message you are stylish, a Blackberry says you're professional.

What does an Android represent? My vast, superior intelligence above all...
 
Haha, didn't consider the Blackberry a smartphone eh? That's pretty funny, since Blackberry basically started the smartphone phenomenon.

Just as many people credid Apple for instigating the Android startup in the first place, you can just as easily make the arguement that Blackberry instigated the Apple start up. Because before the iPhone came out, if you wanted a smartphone, you pretty much had either Blackberry or Palm to choose from. Windows had a few devices, but they were clunky, and not very easy to get around on.

Blackberry was far superior in many rights then anything else on the market in its day. Sure, the iOS and Android have redefined what a smartphone is today, but that doesn't by any means change the fact that Blackberry was one of the pioneers in this field, and earned the respect of the community long before the iPhone was a twinkle in your grandpa's eye.

With that being said I am actually shocked to hear this. I had no idea Blackberry was still the number 1 smartphone up until just now. I thought Apple had surpassed it loooong, long ago. Guess I was wrong. Where is this stuff compiled at anyway? Like if I wanted to check the legitacy of this out on my own, where do you go to bring up a list of all the players, and what their percentages are not only here, but all across the globe?

Anyone?
 
Outlaw71 said:
Haha, didn't consider the Blackberry a smartphone eh? That's pretty funny, since Blackberry basically started the smartphone phenomenon.
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I thought the Palm Treo did.
Everyone once used Palm. Now hardly anyone does. That's what happens when you bank on "Zen" for too long and don't adapt.
 
before android my most favorite phone was the sonic slider by virgin mobile.it was a powerful speaker music phone in its day and if you bought an attachment for it you could play java type games on a controller interface. ;P
 
ari-free said:
I thought the Palm Treo did.
Everyone once used Palm. Now hardly anyone does. That's what happens when you bank on "Zen" for too long and don't adapt.
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The Palm brand is owned by a Chinese corporation now, TCL, but PalmOS and WebOS are owned by LG.
http://www.cnet.com/news/palm-makes-a-comeback-tcl-to-recreate-the-brand/
Budget and mid-range Androids badged as Palm. TCL sells TVs in North America badged as RCA, another once noble, former US brand,. In Europe they're badged as Alcatel, and in China they're badged as TCL of course.
 
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