Help Display touch response issues

[rushmore]

I tested game emulators more today (Tiger Arcade and N64Oid). Here are the odd issues that I have not experienced before on the G1, D1, Inc, D3, A500, DX1, DX2, Flyer, Transformer, Thrive, Flyer, Play, Charge, TB, Revolution, GTablet, or Razr (ie, no other Android device ever tested).

1. Holding down on the display does not appear to register beyond about a second. Example is using an accelerator in a racing game. Any other device, I can hold down on the mapped virtual button and the accelerator stays active. It does not on the Rezound. The accelerator will activate and then go back to zero while still holding the button down.

2. Touch responce is weak, so using a d-pad with virtual controls is problematic.

I am wondering if these issues have anything to do with the hi res display? The Razr worked fine (catch is, the display looks worse, the more I compare the display with the Rezound).

Bummer.

 

[Member 576853]

I have noticed while playing games on my rezound that I have to touch to the left or right of the onscreen buttons for them to register, I'm almost positive this is from
the resolution.

 

[rushmore]

I notice that as well, but the main issue is a sustained press does not appear to work with virtual controls. This and the picky response makes the Rezound mostly unplayable with game emulators.

Rezound in this regard is the worst Android device I have tried

 

[Teegunn]

Thanks for the info, rush. I stilll haven't seen the phone in person but this would be a big strike against it for me. RAZR has gained some ground on the Rezound for my next phone in the last day to be honest.

 

[rushmore]

Catch is the Razr display gets uglier the more I compare it to the Rezound. The difference when you study it in person, becomes harsh.

Added:

People that say otherwise are respectfully either far sighted, not compared them, or are in denial

Still, it appears virtual controls suck on the Rezound

 

[nelamvr6]

I was playing Hot Pursuit and and I didn't experience this issue when breaking. To break in this game you touch on the lower left corner of the display. I could touch and hold, and my breaks were being applied steadily...

Perhaps it's related to the emulators you were using?

 

[novox77]

I don't see why it would be the resolution. It sounds like the screen is interpreting a sustained press as a long-press (like when you want to delete something from your homescreen)... Not sure if there's a setting on the emulator for this... though it sounds like not everyone can reproduce the problem, implying there might be a setting in Sense as well...

 

[Member 576853]

Im going to try the ps emulator in a few ( if it works with rezound ) I'll get back and let you know if I experience these problems.

 

[Teegunn]

I finally got to use a working (kind of it had no active sim card) Rezound today. I tried to replicate the problem, but couldn't. I also had the RAZR side by side...... and this is a tough decision. I do like the feel of the Rezound in hand better I can say that. I am waiting just a bit to see if any problems with either handset pop up from users in the next few days. But in-hand feel I like the Rezound as of now.

 

[rushmore]

The two updated emulators I tested have the problem on the Rezound, but not the Bionic, DX2, D3, Flyer, Thrive, or Razr (recent devices I tested N64Oid and Tiger Arcade). I love the display on the Rezound so much, I tried to will it to work, but no dice. I CURSE the sexy display!

Cursed!

 

[TxGoat]

Catch is the Razr display gets uglier the more I compare it to the Rezound. The difference when you study it in person, becomes harsh.

Added:

People that say otherwise are respectfully either far sighted, not compared them, or are in denial

Still, it appears virtual controls suck on the Rezound

I don't know man, when compared to my Thunderbolt, the Rezound seemed a little less bright. I loaded up a 720p video from Youtube and just looking at the resolution, color, and brightness, the Thunderbolt actually looked a little nicer to me. Maybe I'll need to dial in the settings on the Rezound but I'm thinking if my Thunderbolt didn't have a bad screen, I would've stuck with it.

 

[Teegunn]

I don't know man, when compared to my Thunderbolt, the Rezound seemed a little less bright. I loaded up a 720p video from Youtube and just looking at the resolution, color, and brightness, the Thunderbolt actually looked a little nicer to me. Maybe I'll need to dial in the settings on the Rezound but I'm thinking if my Thunderbolt didn't have a bad screen, I would've stuck with it.

Did they improve the Tbolt screen in later releases of it, because frankly it had one of the worst displays I have ever seen. Not only very dim, but very washed out to boot. I'm not saying this to cause any issues, but it IS what I noticed in any hands-on use and comparison with my droid x. The DX display was waaay brighter and more vivid colors overall. Yes, of course I had brightness on both units turned all the way up. When I compared the Rezound, RAZR and my DX2 displays side by side today, there is no way the Rezound had such a dim, washed out display as the Tbolt(s) (yes I tested quite a few when they first came out) displays I used. Of the Rezound, RAZR and my DX2, my Dx2 was still FAR brighter than either of the other phones. To be honest, my DX2 is brighter (for some reason) than any other DX2 or Bionic I have ever compared side by side, so maybe I just got a very bright display for some odd reason. No, I'm not making this stuff up BTW. I guess overall, my DX2 display is pretty damn nice. The samoled on the RAZR is brighter than say the Charge and does look quite nice. The HD display on the Rezound was quite stunning with it's super sharp resolution. This is going to be a tough decision for me as to which phone I go with.

 

[TxGoat]

Did they improve the Tbolt screen in later releases of it, because frankly it had one of the worst displays I have ever seen. Not only very dim, but very washed out to boot. I'm not saying this to cause any issues, but it IS what I noticed in any hands-on use and comparison with my droid x. The DX display was waaay brighter and more vivid colors overall. Yes, of course I had brightness on both units turned all the way up. When I compared the Rezound, RAZR and my DX2 displays side by side today, there is no way the Rezound had such a dim, washed out display as the Tbolt(s) (yes I tested quite a few when they first came out) displays I used. Of the Rezound, RAZR and my DX2, my Dx2 was still FAR brighter than either of the other phones. To be honest, my DX2 is brighter (for some reason) than any other DX2 or Bionic I have ever compared side by side, so maybe I just got a very bright display for some odd reason. No, I'm not making this stuff up BTW. I guess overall, my DX2 display is pretty damn nice. The samoled on the RAZR is brighter than say the Charge and does look quite nice. The HD display on the Rezound was quite stunning with it's super sharp resolution. This is going to be a tough decision for me as to which phone I go with.

I got my Thunderbolt when it first released so I don't think it was an upgrade. Go look at my "Lets play a game" thread, I took a pic of each playing the same scene of Star Trek in 720p.

 

[Teegunn]

I got my Thunderbolt when it first released so I don't think it was an upgrade. Go look at my "Lets play a game" thread, I took a pic of each playing the same scene of Star Trek in 720p.

I saw that thread - the pics were a bit fuzzy - but I assume we are looking at a display brightness difference? And I am assuming the brighter pic was from the Tbolt from your comments?

 

[TxGoat]

I saw that thread - the pics were a bit fuzzy - but I assume we are looking at a display brightness difference? And I am assuming the brighter pic was from the Tbolt from your comments?

You're supposed to guess in that thread I have more pics....

 

[rushmore]

I think the key issue may be folks are comparing LCD tech and pentile as a base. No way around it for me, the Razr display looks bad. Pentile and amoled tech are a BAD mix. You now have the worst of both worlds combined: Dim & oversaturated AMOLED, plus grainy sub par resolution of pentile tech. The combination looks bad to me.

The TB display even looks better than the Razr display, but the Rezound looks better than the TB display. Just look at web pages and read text. Sharper and better color to me. Still, the TB display is superior to the Razr's funky stuff.

Shame though the Rezound appears to have touch response issues with virtual controls. Tested the sustained press issue again and same result. The Rezound appears to be a no-go for game emulators. In this regard, the Razr is better, but the display gets too warm when playing stuff like N64 (Razr pipes heat through the display).

Looks like I will be with the Droid 3 longer than expected. No 4G, but the trade-offs with the Razr & Rezound, plus no sd slot on the Nexus is a bust for me.

At least my Droid 3 also has a better display than the Razr..... I still do not see how folks can say the Razr has a great display. Are people not comparing to other devices, or far sighted? Denial?? Maybe new toy pixie dust is still in their eyes...

 

[turbomentor]

Rush that's about the 5th post I've seen where you are bemoaning the fact that you can't use your emulators thanks to a "long press" issue on the touch screen.

I'm sorry that feature doesn't do it for you. Maybe better to post that once...maybe twice...then let it go!

I too am on the fence about RAZR or Rezound (leaning toward Rezound but longing for Smart Actions & Motocast!) and I too agree with you that the RAZR screen is noticeably infererior. It has greenish-gray tinge to the screen, even though it's pretty nice and bright. The Rezound to me lives up to HTC's billing: "Quietly Brilliant"! Wish I could have tried out the Beats headphones. VZW needs to make the rubber tips available for testers to try on (like disposalbe socks at a shoe store!)

 

[rushmore]

Rush that's about the 5th post I've seen where you are bemoaning the fact that you can't use your emulators thanks to a "long press" issue on the touch screen.

I'm sorry that feature doesn't do it for you. Maybe better to post that once...maybe twice...then let it go!

I too am on the fence about RAZR or Rezound (leaning toward Rezound but longing for Smart Actions & Motocast!) and I too agree with you that the RAZR screen is noticeably infererior. It has greenish-gray tinge to the screen, even though it's pretty nice and bright. The Rezound to me lives up to HTC's billing: "Quietly Brilliant"! Wish I could have tried out the Beats headphones. VZW needs to make the rubber tips available for testers to try on (like disposalbe socks at a shoe store!)

I can't. I must watch out for fellow gamers!

As far as Beats, if you like stuff other than hip hop: Sell them on ebay and get some Klipsch S4 buds No, really- if you are an audio-dude or dudette.

The touch response thing really is bugging me. If the display was not so sexy, no harm no foul- but it is sexy stuff.

 

[Blackthanos]

T I love the display on the Rezound so much, I tried to will it to work, but no dice. I CURSE the sexy display!

Cursed!

Hey Rush, sorry you can't get your emulators to work. I can tell you are into your gaming on phones but on a positive note I was cracking up when I read your quote above...lol. I know exactly what you mean. It's like once you get used to the Rezounds HD screen you are stuck because there is no going back to regular or "QHD" screens. It ain't happening! I have been looking for HD movies and music videos all day to download. I am not going to have any space left on my phone. Hey at least I have a removable sd card. I would have been pissed if we didn't.(not a jab at the G-Nex btw) Now I don't have to choose what to keep I can just swap cards. I'm sure this HD fever will wear off eventually though......won't it?

 

[rushmore]

Agreed on the display. Went in again to test. Not only is the resolution higher, but the Razr isn't really qHD, since the pentile negates about 20% of the resolution. Net effect is approaching 2X the resolution.

 

[nelamvr6]

Rushmore: I am now more convinced that ever that your problem is caused by the emulators, not the display itself.

I've been playing Shadowgun for the past half hour, and I had zero issues with long presses not being recognized.

I suspect an incompatibility, perhaps something that the emulator's dev can address...

 

[rushmore]

Rushmore: I am now more convinced that ever that your problem is caused by the emulators, not the display itself.

I've been playing Shadowgun for the past half hour, and I had zero issues with long presses not being recognized.

I suspect an incompatibility, perhaps something that the emulator's dev can address...

The result is the same none the less. The emulators tested work fine on every other device tested except the Rezound. Even the funky looking Razr display plays fine. No movement issues or sustained press problems.

I think it is the resolution and perhaps the devs have not accounted for it with 720p displays.

 

[TxGoat]

The result is the same none the less. The emulators tested work fine on every other device tested except the Rezound. Even the funky looking Razr display plays fine. No movement issues or sustained press problems.

I think it is the resolution and perhaps the devs have not accounted for it with 720p displays.

Have you tried that display tool that EarlyMon posted in my 720p thread? Maybe that will tweak the device some so that the on screen buttons will register a little better.

http://androidforums.com/3469613-post2.html