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Phases
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Nah, cuz that is what will happen if it goes away anyway. 
Didn't realize I needed to mention that or anyone would care about crawlers, though. heh.
I have a sneaking suspicion the winner will be removing the actual device links from showing on the main page, but leaving the "all things root" header that you can click into to see them.
Which stinks for me cuz it doesn't cut back on maintenance at all, just home page clutter.
Didn't realize I needed to mention that or anyone would care about crawlers, though. heh.I have a sneaking suspicion the winner will be removing the actual device links from showing on the main page, but leaving the "all things root" header that you can click into to see them.
Which stinks for me cuz it doesn't cut back on maintenance at all, just home page clutter.
DaSchmarotzer
Blame it on me
Its 31 to 23 with complete removal (versus leaving main link) on top though(54 to 16 with regards to removing [something] versus retaining everything, so keeping it should be out of the question as that is a landslide)
Changed my vote to removing the whole section, so it's 32 to 22 now.
Sweet Chaos
Android Enthusiast
woop
novacane (OFWGKTA)
Do you mean 22? 33 want it removed, 22 want it to stay as a main link. Then theres the 11 that want it to stay as is, and the "I don't care" group - which should not be lumped in with any option.
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
Originally Posted by Frisco 
33 want it removed and 33 want it to stay either as a link or as a list of links to all device root subs. ... as of this post.
Woop: Do you mean 22? 33 want it removed, 22 want it to stay as a main link. Then theres the 11 that want it to stay as is, and the "I don't care" group - which should not be lumped in with any option.
I'm lumping those two choices that don't want it gone.
33 want it removed and 33 want it to stay either as a link or as a list of links to all device root subs. ... as of this post.
Woop: Do you mean 22? 33 want it removed, 22 want it to stay as a main link. Then theres the 11 that want it to stay as is, and the "I don't care" group - which should not be lumped in with any option.
I'm lumping those two choices that don't want it gone.
SUroot
Extreme Android User
It would be unfair to not lump the ones to stay together. Just because there's 2 options to keep, that automatically splits the vote, but you can't split the removal vote.
John mccain for president with no tie = 9 votes
Barrack Obama for president but prefer he wears a blue tie = 7 votes
Barrack Obama for president but prefer he wears a black tie = 4 votes.
Who should be president?
John mccain for president with no tie = 9 votes
Barrack Obama for president but prefer he wears a blue tie = 7 votes
Barrack Obama for president but prefer he wears a black tie = 4 votes.
Who should be president?
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
Your analogy strays a bit too far from my point, danfrance.
To clarify, with another analogy:
Two people in the family want to keep their lawn service.
One of those two people want the service to fertilize and mow.
The other one wants fertilizing only.
Neither of them want to lose the lawn service altogether.
A third person in the family wants the service to stop altogether.
A fourth has no opinion on the issue.
We can multiply the number of members in the family all we want: four people to keep it, two of them wanting mowing only, etc.....
Having said this, voted and read opinions about it, I was wondering who here feels strongly about this particular poll/issue? Phases does, and he has expressed in a post here the following:
"I have a sneaking suspicion the winner will be removing the actual device links from showing on the main page, but leaving the "all things root" header that you can click into to see them."
"Which stinks for me cuz it doesn't cut back on maintenance at all, just home page clutter."
That is what is "huge," imo; the site admin wants it gone. He's the one who knows the most about the place (I guess
).
Great to have a vote about it, but I think the admin's feelings about the whole thing should weigh more than just one vote.
To clarify, with another analogy:
Two people in the family want to keep their lawn service.
One of those two people want the service to fertilize and mow.
The other one wants fertilizing only.
Neither of them want to lose the lawn service altogether.
A third person in the family wants the service to stop altogether.
A fourth has no opinion on the issue.
We can multiply the number of members in the family all we want: four people to keep it, two of them wanting mowing only, etc.....
Having said this, voted and read opinions about it, I was wondering who here feels strongly about this particular poll/issue? Phases does, and he has expressed in a post here the following:
"I have a sneaking suspicion the winner will be removing the actual device links from showing on the main page, but leaving the "all things root" header that you can click into to see them."
"Which stinks for me cuz it doesn't cut back on maintenance at all, just home page clutter."
That is what is "huge," imo; the site admin wants it gone. He's the one who knows the most about the place (I guess
).Great to have a vote about it, but I think the admin's feelings about the whole thing should weigh more than just one vote.
DaSchmarotzer
Blame it on me
John McCain.
What makes you think the people that voted for a black tie would prefer a blue tie over no tie at all? There are three different options in the current poll, like three different candidates.Some people may see it as two options for removing it (or a big part of it) and one option for it to stay completely.
Anyway, the admins have now seen that it's not something everyone wants to stay so they can simply choose to remove it completely even though that particular option isn't the winning one.
Do we have a link that leads to every "tips and tricks" subforum? I don't think so. How is the "All things root" different?
woop
novacane (OFWGKTA)
No option should be lumped together as if that was the case, Phases would have just combined that option. Keeping it as is versus keeping it without the hotlinks are totally different and if I were to vote for one (let's say, keeping it without hotlinks), I definitely wouldn't be voting for the other (keeping it as is) and vice versa. In the same token, others may or may not feel the same way, thus it would make it unfair to them by just putting that entire group under the umbrella. Not to mention it would skew the voting for anyone that is NOT voting either of those options.
woop
novacane (OFWGKTA)
Lets say I voted to keep the main link. I definitely do not want the hot links if that was part of that option and would just have voted to remove everything if that were the case and I'm sure others feel the same way. Again, it is unfair to not only the people that voted that particular option, but opponents of that option.
That would defeat the purpose of even having two different options if they were indeed the same - which they are not.
That would defeat the purpose of even having two different options if they were indeed the same - which they are not.
For some strange reason I cannot see figure 3. I see the other two. So I can't vote for the time being.
But looking at the front page, Figure 1, I always thought it was cluttered.
TS
But looking at the front page, Figure 1, I always thought it was cluttered.
TS
Thank you kindly. Ok I voted. (For # 3) (I mean Figure 3) Option 2
TS
TS
woop
novacane (OFWGKTA)
And thats fine, however that does not all of a sudden merge options either. One is want everything, one is want something, one is want nothing. We are going in circles over nothing here since in the end its Phases decision so the train stops here
asadullah
Android Enthusiast
I don't know maybe I'm a typical user or maybe not. I google android forums scroll to lg optimus m and then go to that section. Unless I'm on my windows partition in which case I just click on my bookmark (why I haven't set up the bookmark on ubuntu I don't know). I then look at the general threads and then look at all things root wish we had a development section and then do whatever.
Morsolo
Lurker
First up, sorry if this has been previously mentioned...
Anyway, seeing as vBulletin is my forte, I figured I'd provide some input
Along with the aforementioned options, there is also two more I'd like to suggest.
Option A would be a collapsing submenu option. Leave it similar to how it is already (as per Fig.1), but just have it collapsed within a DIV tag, clicking a little "+" icon (or any other trigger) would expand the list. It keeps everything clean, but still entirely accessible.
Option B would involve a vB Modification, "Cyb - Sub Forum Manager". It's a brilliant modification that is designed to just clean up the listings. Sorting them into nice columns, rather than just comma separated. (here is a link to the vB.org Mod if the Admins want it)
I feel bad just randomly appearing with my near-zero posts and suggesting this as if I was a long-standing member. But I have developed a few vB sites in my time and I know what Sub Forum clutter feels like
Anyway, seeing as vBulletin is my forte, I figured I'd provide some input
Along with the aforementioned options, there is also two more I'd like to suggest.
Option A would be a collapsing submenu option. Leave it similar to how it is already (as per Fig.1), but just have it collapsed within a DIV tag, clicking a little "+" icon (or any other trigger) would expand the list. It keeps everything clean, but still entirely accessible.
Option B would involve a vB Modification, "Cyb - Sub Forum Manager". It's a brilliant modification that is designed to just clean up the listings. Sorting them into nice columns, rather than just comma separated. (here is a link to the vB.org Mod if the Admins want it)
I feel bad just randomly appearing with my near-zero posts and suggesting this as if I was a long-standing member. But I have developed a few vB sites in my time and I know what Sub Forum clutter feels like
Thanks for your input, Morsolo.
Your opinion is every bit as valid and valued as anyone elses', and I'm sure our hard-pressed Admins welcome any suggestions that might make their lives slightly less stressful.
Your opinion is every bit as valid and valued as anyone elses', and I'm sure our hard-pressed Admins welcome any suggestions that might make their lives slightly less stressful.
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
First up, sorry if this has been previously mentioned...
Anyway, seeing as vBulletin is my forte, I figured I'd provide some input
Along with the aforementioned options, there is also two more I'd like to suggest.
Option A would be a collapsing submenu option. Leave it similar to how it is already (as per Fig.1), but just have it collapsed within a DIV tag, clicking a little "+" icon (or any other trigger) would expand the list. It keeps everything clean, but still entirely accessible.
Option B would involve a vB Modification, "Cyb - Sub Forum Manager". It's a brilliant modification that is designed to just clean up the listings. Sorting them into nice columns, rather than just comma separated. (here is a link to the vB.org Mod if the Admins want it)
I feel bad just randomly appearing with my near-zero posts and suggesting this as if I was a long-standing member. But I have developed a few vB sites in my time and I know what Sub Forum clutter feels like
Ageeing with Slug; that's great stuff, Morsolo. Very glad you've been reading in here and responded with some knowledgeable input.
DaSchmarotzer
Blame it on me
I disagree.
You were talking about options 2 and 3. Now about options 1 and 2, I could say that these two options are inherently lumped together because voters for either one of those want to see something removed and not the whole thing stay.
There are three different options here, nothing can be lumped with anything.