Root Does clockwork recovery rely on a functional /boot?

[John Redcorn]

If you screw up your /boot flashing a rom or something can you still get to bootloader then recovery with your phones bootloader hot key combo? I thought I read somewhere that clockwork doesn't really have its own kernel and needs /boot to load 1st, that true?

I rooted my phone pretty much just to flash cyanogen, I've made a few backups an tried a few things and restored from backups but thats about it. I'm not a flasher like some people but I'm close to it nowadays with trying all kinds of new versions of an ics rom for my phone. I'm under the assumption I can't really screw anything up flashing roms that clockwork alone can't fix, I hope I'm right, don't want to learn all that adb flashing stuff.

 

[Yeahha]

Moved to the Inpsire root forums.

You shouldn't be able to change you hboot flashing a rom or anything in clockwork. And yes if you overwrite your hboot with something that is broken it will pretty much brick the phone, I do not know if there is a way to recover it for your phone specifically.

Hboot can flash recoveries, radios, splash screens, and hboots in general.
Recovery can flash roms, kernels, gapps...recovery can wipe /data, /system, cache, and dalvik cache partitions it can't affect hboot.

Some of these things may not be available for your phone if I got anything wrong (pretty sure I didn't) I am sure someone will correct me

 

[John Redcorn]

Is hboot the bootloader? I'm not messing around with flashing that. What I mean is every rom needs to write the /boot and /system partition. The /boot is the kernel I believe. If that /boot is screwed up somehow but the bootloader is still good, that's what I'm wondering about, does cwm still work? Does it have its own kernel to it or does it rely on /boot?

And if I'm completely wrong in my terminology, someone correct me.
I compare it to linux thinking that hboot=bootloader=lilo or grub and /boot = kernel

 

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You can call hboot the bootloader

/boot would be where the kernel and some other things would be.

There is a recovery partion. So i'm guessing thats where recovery is stored.

I thought I read somewhere that clockwork doesn't really have its own kernel

This is true in our case, but with samsung phones irrc the recovery is built into the kernel.

 

[dots]

Is hboot the bootloader? I'm not messing around with flashing that. What I mean is every rom needs to write the /boot and /system partition. The /boot is the kernel I believe. If that /boot is screwed up somehow but the bootloader is still good, that's what I'm wondering about, does cwm still work? Does it have its own kernel to it or does it rely on /boot?

And if I'm completely wrong in my terminology, someone correct me.
I compare it to linux thinking that hboot=bootloader=lilo or grub and /boot = kernel

Yeah is something is wrong with the kernel in /boot it will likely not boot past the white HTC screen. In short yes youd still be able to boot into hboot and recovery since there is an recovery partion.

As far as /boot being where the kernel is your right. I like to think of hboot/bootloader more like the bios but thinking of it like grub/lilo also works.