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zipur

zipur

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Does it concern you when Google or any other company steals from America through tax loop holes? Maybe the bigger questions is do You cheat or avoid paying your fair share.

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I served the Marine Corps, I risked my life on the small war Panama Canal. Now I see teachers who make 20-50k, being forced out of work, we can
 
There are plenty of companies that take advantage of the options our government provides them to allow them to "cheat" on their taxes, send jobs overseas, fire employees at will as long as they don't break any laws, and many other things. It's the way the laws are written by OUR government that allows this. You're blaming the wrong people.
 
First, thank you for your service to our country. There is not a major corporation out there that doesn't take advantage of every tax loophole they can to save money. Anyone who has a professional prepare their taxes, or uses computer software to prepare their taxes utilizes loopholes to get more money back. These practices are not illegal, so I think the term "stealing " is misused. If these practices are offensive to you then by all means take your money elsewhere, just be aware that they all do these things. The only way to change this is to change the tax code, good luck finding enough politicians with the backbone to do that.
 
"Using our own laws", Sounds like they are legal... tax laws are written like this to help a business grow make more money and hire more employees. learn tax law, maybe you can save yourself some taxes. maybe start a business out of your garage working on cars..
 
If your concerned about google then you should be concerned with all major companies in America. The government doesn't provide loopholes by mistake.
 
And don't blame all companies. Not all corporations cheat on their taxes. And don't assume some in the working class don't take advantage of tax loopholes either.

Loopholes tend to exist when the tax code gets too complicated. Patch after patch just causes more holes. We really could use a massive simplification. But I'm not on these forums to discuss politics, so..... the end for me.

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to say that taking advantage of 'loopholes' is cheating on your taxes and these entities are somehow wrong or criminal is being a little near sighted.......

they are simply doing the EXACT same thing every person who files taxes does........ do you take any deductions at all? whether it be the standard deduction or itemized....... do you claim your dependants? these are "loopholes" of another sort

so if Google cheats on their taxes then we all do........ they are simply using the laws as presented to them to minimize the amount they pay...... just like we all do

I dont know about anyone else....... but I for one will never be heard saying I think I should pay more in taxes so I wont take advantage of legal options to minimize my liability

and when you say "steal from America" it sounds as though you believe the Government owns 100% of your income and simply allows you to keep a portion of it.......... how can you steal something that is rightfully yours in the first place? it is America stealing from Google (or any other company /person) that you should be worried about

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Just sounds like the OP is mad that he cant use the same loop holes that corporations can use. So when will you move in to your cave and make a bow and arrows out of a tree and live off the land as many has stated all corporations takes these loopholes. As I am sure you par take in them also.

Figure out your taxes for this year with no deductions and see if your as happy to pay your "fair share" as you seem to boast about.
 
people just dont realize that no company pays taxes............ their customers do

close all the loopholes and see if google and all the services they provide for free remain that way

close every loophole and suddenly McDonalds will start charging $12 for a BigMac....... a gallon of milk will be $42......... enjoy those $700 flipflop sandals from Kmart........ taxes are passed directly to the consumer....... companies are in business for 1 reason and 1 reason only.... to make a profit...... costs of doing business (such as taxes) are added into the price of the product......

and yes it creates an ugly circle...... they charge more for a BigMac it means their income increases which means their taxes increase which means the cost of the BigMac increases more which means their income incr......well you get the point

the 1 constant that wont change is theyre going to do whatever they can to maintain their profits...... in this case... take advantage of tax loopholes which decreases the cost of doing business and allows them to keep the costs of their product low
 
zipur said:
Does it concern you when Google or any other company steals from America through tax loop holes? Maybe the bigger questions is do You cheat or avoid paying your fair share.

Then I read that Google is using our own tax laws to avoid paying their fair share to support the USA. I am one who refuses to talk to foreign Call Centers for support or new service. And now I will not longer support Google. Moto
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wintersg3 said:
First, thank you for your service to our country. There is not a major corporation out there that doesn't take advantage of every tax loophole they can to save money. Anyone who has a professional prepare their taxes, or uses computer software to prepare their taxes utilizes loopholes to get more money back. These practices are not illegal, so I think the term "stealing " is misused. If these practices are offensive to you then by all means take your money elsewhere, just be aware that they all do these things. The only way to change this is to change the tax code, good luck finding enough politicians with the backbone to do that.
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And the airways are filled with H&R Block ads promising you the maximum refund by taking advantage of this and that. I think as long as Google is not outright breaking the law, nobody can complain.

Those that want to complain, should probably avoid all possible deductions and pay what your 1040 instruction book says to pay. But we all know that will not happen.

Bob
 
A.Nonymous said:
I just love the "fair share" argument. Who defines what one's "fair share" is?
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It is easy . . . to some extent, the US Tax Code defines fair share. If you make a gazillion dollars per year and if you do not want to cheat, You follow the rules and the laws, and you pay what you owe.

If you are a whiner or a complainer, or in a bad mood, Bill and Warren should pay 99.999% in taxes.

If you are me, you simply sign the forms your tax lawyers prepare, cut the IRS a check, and you are done. Fair share is paid.

Bob
 
it really annoys me when I see firms hiring certain firms to dodge massive amounts of tax... saw a very good program on C4 relating to it
 
so zipur, you might want to stop supporting your local grocery, gas station, and your local electronic/ furniture retailer... if you want to stop supporting Google, do but as everyone say, every little company who ever they are, do the same, we all do the same... trying to save the largest amount for our own little personal interest
 
shadowninty said:
it really annoys me when I see firms hiring certain firms to dodge massive amounts of tax... saw a very good program on C4 relating to it
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and did you ever consider why corporations do this? I can tell you why Palm had some units manufactured in Ireland and why some final assembly was done elsewhere . . . had everything to do with tax rates and import fees.

If we had a logical tax code perhaps you would see less of what irks you so.

Bob
 
Bob Maxey said:
and did you ever consider why corporations do this? I can tell you why Palm had some units manufactured in Ireland and why some final assembly was done elsewhere . . . had everything to do with tax rates and import fees.

If we had a logical tax code perhaps you would see less of what irks you so.

Bob
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I have pointed out numerous times my annoyance with Irelands tax system
I am referring to accidental left in loopholes.. and the vast amounts of money they pay firms to help find every last loophole
If we make the tax code simpler, a lot of tax breaks will have to be ended
 
shadowninty said:
I have pointed out numerous times my annoyance with Irelands tax system
I am referring to accidental left in loopholes.. and the vast amounts of money they pay firms to help find every last loophole
If we make the tax code simpler, a lot of tax breaks will have to be ended
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I do not know much about the tax code in Ireland, so no comment. And again, if it is allowed by our current tax code, it is not cheating, it is following the written law.

I wont argue if it is fair or not, it is legal and that is the point.

Bob
 
Bob Maxey said:
I do not know much about the tax code in Ireland, so no comment. And again, if it is allowed by our current tax code, it is not cheating, it is following the written law.

I wont argue if it is fair or not, it is legal and that is the point.

Bob
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a loophole, by definition, is something in a law that can be exploited, not intended when the law was made
Its not illegal, but not really legal either

Its generally only large corporations which seek them out, thus its not small or medium enterprises benefiting
 
shadowninty said:
a loophole, by definition, is something in a law that can be exploited, not intended when the law was made
Its not illegal, but not really legal either

Its generally only large corporations which seek them out, thus its not small or medium enterprises benefiting
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Loophole: "A provision in the laws governing taxation that allows people to reduce their taxes. The term has the connotation of an unintentional omission or obscurity in the law that allows the reduction of tax liability to a point below that intended by the framers of the law."

Every taxpayer uses loopholes.

Bob
 
Bob Maxey said:
Loophole: "A provision in the laws governing taxation that allows people to reduce their taxes. The term has the connotation of an unintentional omission or obscurity in the law that allows the reduction of tax liability to a point below that intended by the framers of the law."

Every taxpayer uses loopholes.

Bob
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tax breaks/reductions.
 
Guys offshoring money multiple times to avoid taxes is not the same as taking standard deductions, that's ******ed. We're on a exponential slide of a larger portion of money going into a smaller percentage of the population, and in a failing economy. Letting the top 1% get away with tax evasion, not a deduction, is insane.

Not to mention, they are basically making it cheaper to outsource labor, further weakening the US job market. I'm glad you guys are ok with that, but personally coming from being recently unemployed, and having a number of friends who are too, I don't really appreciate it.
 
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