AmericanHero
Well-Known Member
How is Flash working out on the Eris?
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shadrap
Android Enthusiast
Sprint's network is faster than Verizon. Check phonedog or endgadget. They have done several test that have proven that Sprint's 3G is faster than Verizon's. Also, they have the same exact coverage area. They entered into a deal in 2006 that allows them to roam on each others network and use full 3G coverage. Sprint, has greater coverage in rural areas and Verizon has greater coverage in urban areas. They entered into an agreement that created the largest network in the US.
So as far as the Eris and the Hero go it is a matter of preference. I for one will take Sprint and their pricing.
So as far as the Eris and the Hero go it is a matter of preference. I for one will take Sprint and their pricing.
MR_2FNGRZ
Member
MR_2FNGRZ
Member
lol, good one. But seriously ppl, lets try to stick with FACTS, and not opinions. It sounds like the previous person formed and OPINION, based off the line "stupid chin". Opinions are more than welcomed, but we are talking about DIFFERENCES, not PREFERENCES. The phones are are all the same, with the exception of a few OBVIOUS tweeks here and there. The HERO with the chin is the first one manufactured, and it was for the EURO market. If you look at pics of it, check out the weather. It says CELSIUS, which of course is european temperature. The Sprint HERO, is CDMA just like the Verizon HERO, however the ROM for THAT phone is custom cooked to include some of Sprints on apps that they provide, not to mention it is set on their PCS network. Verizon is the same. If a custom ROM was made and a generic carrier cab was made, you would have no problem putting it on either phone. There are a few slight differences with the casing, with the Euro HERO having the obvious "chin". The Sprint HERO has no soft buttons like the Verizon version, and it doesn't have the force feedback. Also with the Sprint HERO, they have two more hard keys to the right of the trackball. Also note the side of the phones, where the ERIS has the silver "lining" and the casing is all black. Overall, we should all know by now its the same damn phone
droidnut
Member
All I can say is, my wife and I both typed on the Hero and stunk...big time! Mistakes all over the place. We then typed on the Eris and were both golden. Hardly any mistakes and we both were pros. I'm waiting for her Eris that I ordered for her online.
As far as better coverage and service...VZW wins that hands down. I travel for a living all across the U.S and have had both V and Sprint. V always has service while Sprint would drop calls left and right. Don't know all about that 2006 roaming or whatever but calls or dropped calls...I do know.
My 2 cents.
As far as better coverage and service...VZW wins that hands down. I travel for a living all across the U.S and have had both V and Sprint. V always has service while Sprint would drop calls left and right. Don't know all about that 2006 roaming or whatever but calls or dropped calls...I do know.
My 2 cents.
shadrap
Android Enthusiast
Found on Wiki, Sprint and Verizon are the same, you are not getting any better service, yet paying for more on Verizon.
On May 9, 2006 Sprint Nextel and Alltel agreed on a new Nationwide Roaming partnership.[18][19] The new roaming agreement is for both voice and (1x & EV-DO) data roaming coverage. This new partnership is different from Alltel's voice-only roaming agreement with Verizon Wireless in that it is reciprocal, meaning customers from both companies get to roam on to each other's networks, giving Alltel customers access to Sprint's 1x & EV-DO network, and Sprint customers access to Alltel's denser rural 1x & EV-DO voice and data coverage. This agreement represents the first of its kind between US wireless carriers.
Sprint and Verizon Wireless agreed on a data roaming agreement.[20] This agreement is reciprocal, just like the Sprint-Alltel data roaming agreement that has already been effect. This data roaming even allows for the use of Sprint Power Vision's content like TV, movie downloads, and stream radio in Verizon's CDMA
On May 9, 2006 Sprint Nextel and Alltel agreed on a new Nationwide Roaming partnership.[18][19] The new roaming agreement is for both voice and (1x & EV-DO) data roaming coverage. This new partnership is different from Alltel's voice-only roaming agreement with Verizon Wireless in that it is reciprocal, meaning customers from both companies get to roam on to each other's networks, giving Alltel customers access to Sprint's 1x & EV-DO network, and Sprint customers access to Alltel's denser rural 1x & EV-DO voice and data coverage. This agreement represents the first of its kind between US wireless carriers.
Sprint and Verizon Wireless agreed on a data roaming agreement.[20] This agreement is reciprocal, just like the Sprint-Alltel data roaming agreement that has already been effect. This data roaming even allows for the use of Sprint Power Vision's content like TV, movie downloads, and stream radio in Verizon's CDMA
anikko
Lurker
The bluetooth answer option is intended. If you want to talk using the earpiece tap the button on your earpiece. To talk using phone tap the button on the phone. Also you can switch a call from phone to bluetooth by tapping the button on the earpiece mid call. It took me about a week to get used to this. My previous phone always went to bluetooth. I suppose options are always good though.
Hope this helps.
#1. Ahhh... no. When I say the "glass is superior", I mean the glass is superior in design-- I'm not talking about temporary assembly QA issues. Customers have 30 days to return a defective product, just as I did, and wait until HTC remedies (which they are working on).
#5. Incorrect - both devices are running the same OS and both are running the same underpowered processor. I and others are experiencing the same lag issues. Try a Droid, and you see what "no lag" really means (which is what I've settled on as a device -- it's sweet).
As others have noted in some other boards, the Eris is priced lower due to some lower COGS (eg. cheaper glass, housing).
In the end, each device has it's strengths. But as I alluded to before, I think the next-gen of these (HTC Passion), will be the real winner when it comes out.
Technically, given the roaming agreements only cover 1xRTT and not EVDO, you're still better off with Verizon's far better 3G coverage. As a 10 year Sprint customer, I usually enjoy the slightly better speeds and reduced latency over other 3G networks, but Verizon certainly has done a great job of ensuring 3G national coverage the last few years.
The current roaming agreement between Verizon and Sprint only addresses voice and 1xRTT data.
SDscorch
Android Enthusiast
maybe true
but in san diego the coverage is the same - so i got the best of both worlds
sprint's lower rates - and the same 3G coverage of vzw
and yes, iv'e been watching the status bar and most of the time i do have 3G coverage - and i'm not even in san diego proper.. i'm in north county
dcdttu
Well-Known Member
I'd kill for a proximity sensor. It's a no-brainer after the iPhone and Pre...
Does anyone know of a program that you can hit a button while on a call and it'll turn your screen of? I'd kill for this on the Hero, as I hit the hang up button to turn the bright-as-you-know-what screen off and I hang up on the person! Unless I'm missing something, whomever made the hang-up button the lock screen button must have been sniffing glue.
Success100
Newbie
man, verizon really has alot of you guys brainwashed. What verizon excels at is ADVERTISING. Im not saying they are a bad company by any means, there service is great, but it is IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, worth the premium over Sprint. When you see commercial after commercial boasting "the network", people are inclined to believe that their network is superior. Is it really? NO. If you check various sites online, about speedtests, and voice and 3G coverage, then most will tell you the truth.
About this whole Hero vs Eris showdown. They're the same friggin phone!! Same processors, chipsets, screens, and virtually the same software. The only difference is the battery, and proximity sensor in the eris, and of course styling. I cant believe this has turned into a debate!
About this whole Hero vs Eris showdown. They're the same friggin phone!! Same processors, chipsets, screens, and virtually the same software. The only difference is the battery, and proximity sensor in the eris, and of course styling. I cant believe this has turned into a debate!
Success100
Newbie
I'd kill for a proximity sensor. It's a no-brainer after the iPhone and Pre...
Does anyone know of a program that you can hit a button while on a call and it'll turn your screen of? I'd kill for this on the Hero, as I hit the hang up button to turn the bright-as-you-know-what screen off and I hang up on the person! Unless I'm missing something, whomever made the hang-up button the lock screen button must have been sniffing glue.
yeah, i hear you on that. I have no clue how they missed an almost STANDARD on mid to high end touch screen smart devices.
I think there was a program on the original Touch Pro that used the accelerometer to do the same thing that the proximity sensors do on calls, im gonna look into that
Godfather13
Android Enthusiast
Everyone talks about proximity sensors, but if you set your screen to sleep after 'x' amount of time it bascially works the same. My screen times out after 1 min. So hitting buttons while talking isnt an issue for me anyways.
Success100
Newbie
yeah true enough, but we dont get why one wasnt put in this phone. The iPhone, Pre, TP2, Droid, Eris, (all high caliber touch screen smart devices), they all have it, so our hands are in the air about why didnt the Sprint Hero get it..
If this behavior is intended, then it really sucks for those who have BT built into their cars. With the Hero, when I'm driving and receive a call, I hear it ringing through my audio system as it should. However, as soon as I tap the phone button on my steering wheel to answer the call the BT connection is dropped. This should NOT happen. I haven't tried hitting the button again to see if it switches back, but I shouldn't have to. When I'm driving, the less buttons I have to hit the better. Maybe the switching option is good when using an earpiece, but in my car I will ALWAYS want the BT option. I never had this issue with my Instinct. It worked perfectly. And no, I don't regret getting the Hero over the Instinct. I just want to BT to act normal on the Hero.
If this behavior is intended, then it really sucks for those who have BT built into their cars. With the Hero, when I'm driving and receive a call, I hear it ringing through my audio system as it should. However, as soon as I tap the phone button on my steering wheel to answer the call the BT connection is dropped. This should NOT happen. I haven't tried hitting the button again to see if it switches back, but I shouldn't have to. When I'm driving, the less buttons I have to hit the better. Maybe the switching option is good when using an earpiece, but in my car I will ALWAYS want the BT option. I never had this issue with my Instinct. It worked perfectly. And no, I don't regret getting the Hero over the Instinct. I just want to BT to act normal on the Hero.
BT in your car? You sound more like a verizon customer. Dont you know us sprint customers are too cheap to buy a car that has BT? We are lucky if our cars have functioning radio's. Heck my car stereo doesnt even have an AUX plug. Yup its old cassette adapter for me.
My bigger issue is the fear i feel of using BT at all until the upgrade fix comes out. I am really wanting to be able to use a BT but i keep reading about how sprint and htc say not to until the update.
lol I guess I didn't get that memo. I indeed have BT in my car. Even have XM radio. Shocking, I know! All the same, I still expect it to work as it should.
By the way, I hold there is a difference between being cheap and being economically wise. 
pking
Well-Known Member
Godfather13
Android Enthusiast
lol I guess I didn't get that memo. I indeed have BT in my car. Even have XM radio. Shocking, I know! All the same, I still expect it to work as it should.
Sounds like you own a Honda!
1. Sorry the Hero screen dust issue is not a QA issue. Its simply how the screen is designed and thats that.
5. The Eris does NOT run the EXACT same UI setup as Sprint Hero. Its more refined and the reason why its abit faster than Sprint Hero.
about 5. how do you know the sense ui is more "refined" on the eris? Is that what the teenage kid at the verizon kiosk wearing the droid does shirt told you when he duped you into paying 700 more for the same phone with a cheaper looking paint job?
And if it is so refined then why does verizon need to release a bug fix update already? Hows that refined? Please explain
just curious.