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Exactly right!
(Good catch, I knew I left something out ;))

I actually un-rooted prior to the 2.2 OTA but left S-OFF but could not run unrEVOked after the OTA to re-root which is not to say I coulnd't root again after the OTA, just not with unrEVOked!
It isn't as straight forward as the one click unrEVOked method, true, but it is possible.:D
 
Whats up everyone? Jay!! Whats up player?
If however, you wanted the official GB ROM pushed by VZW at some point, you could root now and then un-root to get the official on your phone!
Here is the rub:
As a general rule, whenever an official ROM gets pushed by the carrier, it breaks the ability to root and then we (most of us anyway) need to wait for the vulnerabilities to be exploited again in order to root.
My question is suppose i root and remove all the bloatware, do i have to put it back on to get ota's? Not even gonna go down the flashing/rom path... not trying to get hooked plus i like it when everything just 'works':p
 
Whats up everyone? Jay!! Whats up player?

My question is suppose i root and remove all the bloatware, do i have to put it back on to get ota's? Not even gonna go down the flashing/rom path... not trying to get hooked plus i like it when everything just 'works':p

Nick my man!!
How’s things?

Ok, this is a good question that I honestly am not 100% sure of the answer. I have heard that the bloat needs to be on the phone (as it is part of the stock ROM) in order to receive an OTA. If this is the course of action you choose to take, what I would recommend is that you root, create a recovery (which you should always do anyway before you make changes) of the Stock ROM and then remove the bloat. This way, you can always flash back to the stock if necessary.

That said, you need to look at it from this perspective...An OTA will most likely break root anyway, so if your desire is to have an official OTA, why not simply un-root when it starts rolling out from the carrier? Either way, if you want an official OTA, you will no longer have root till the vulnerabilities that were patched get discovered again! Of course, you can also stay rooted and install the RUU components!

Now, here is the thing that MOST never seem to explain!! :mad:

As you probably know, a ROM is the entire installation package. Each ROM is based on an OS (Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, etc...) By rooting and flashing a ROM, you are still getting that OS, so un-rooting to get the official and then rooting again and removing certain components (Bloat in your case) is essentially a custom ROM anyway. Once source of a new OS gets released, developers begin creating new ROM’s based on that OS.

The bottom line is that the custom ROM's you would be installing would be the OS, themed with different components changed or removed or added, etc. Some rooters disagree with my viewpoint which is to say that I am fine un-rooting, getting the official OTA, waiting for the vulnerabilities to be exploited and then re-rooting, creating a new recover and then flashing ROMs again.
 
I don't think so. It's just a picture I found looking around for avatars. There were only a couple Star Wars related ones on the site I was checking, so I went with it. I figure when I got bored one day I'll go looking and find something else. :)
 
Another quick question about TB. In the future when I get a new phone, can I restore my apps + data from a backup of my current phone once the new phone is rooted?
 
I like the geography for the most part, but since we are in a giant bowl, the inversions can be horrendous (as it is now).

Yeah I never saw weather like that before!!
Just driving from Sandy to Jordan at times was like a completely different climate!

Well stated Jay. I recall that the Froyo OTA wouldn't install on phones with some of the bloat removed because the install package looked for certain apps. I'm one of those that as a general rule will not take the OTA, either because I already have the features I want from it, I can wait for the features to be either extracted from the OTA or included in a ROM from the source, or there is nothing in the OTA that I want. Then again, I am running ROMs that are more customized than just bloatware removal:D.

Me too!
I keep switching back and forth between Redemptive and OMGB6! The battery life is RIDICULOUS!!!!! :p
 
Another quick question about TB. In the future when I get a new phone, can I restore my apps + data from a backup of my current phone once the new phone is rooted?

I suppose it would depend on the OS compatibility of the App and of course if you saved the TB database, etc...My caveat would be that you can always expect deviation from one device to the next and one OS to the next.

Sorry for the non-committal response!! :o
 
Another quick question about TB. In the future when I get a new phone, can I restore my apps + data from a backup of my current phone once the new phone is rooted?
I don't know about if you were to change to a different model phone, but I was able to restore my apps + data when I got a replacement Incredible for the one that was malfunctioning.
 
well i briefly looked through the root section for incredible and was like:eek::eek::eek::eek:
Maybe its cause i've been up since 4pm yesterday, lol
I'm inches away from doing it, all i want is less bloatware and something simple to increase battery life. Ugh i'm too lazy to search out the right threads though presently. Yall almosost have me convinced though
 
Yeah I never saw weather like that before!!
Just driving from Sandy to Jordan at times was like a completely different climate!
It's crazy at times, the mountains and the Great Salt Lake cause some interesting meteorlogical effects. My commute is roughly 13 miles and there can be a night and day difference in the weater.

Me too!
I keep switching back and forth between Redemptive and OMGB6! The battery life is RIDICULOUS!!!!! :p
My mainstay is SkyRaider (Sense) but I play with most of the others from time to time. Haven't had much time to swich lately, but have been itching to try OMGB.
 
well i briefly looked through the root section for incredible and was like:eek::eek::eek::eek:
Maybe its cause i've been up since 4pm yesterday, lol
I'm inches away from doing it, all i want is less bloatware and something simple to increase battery life. Ugh i'm too lazy to search out the right threads though presently. Yall almosost have me convinced though

Do yourself a HUGE favor and ignore 99.9% of the root section prior to rooting!!!! TRUST ME!!!!!

When/if you take the plunge, PM me and we can discuss and hopefully I can remove a lot of the excess BS that can muddy the waters.

After you root, then start looking at the other stuff in that section!!
 
Do yourself a HUGE favor and ignore 99.9% of the root section prior to rooting!!!! TRUST ME!!!!!

When/if you take the plunge, PM me and we can discuss and hopefully I can remove a lot of the excess BS that can muddy the waters.

After you root, then start looking at the other stuff in that section!!

I'll do that. I appreciate it!!
Sh*t is off the chain in the root section
Time for little nicky to enter coma mode now, lol

Take it easy everyone....
 
I'll do that. I appreciate it!!
Sh*t is off the chain in the root section
Time for little nicky to enter coma mode now, lol

Take it easy everyone....

Very true!
There is far too much conflicting (and incomplete) information from thread to thread on the topic of actually rooting!

Too much "you need to do this or need to do that", etc...
 
I suppose it would depend on the OS compatibility of the App and of course if you saved the TB database, etc...My caveat would be that you can always expect deviation from one device to the next and one OS to the next.

Sorry for the non-committal response!! :o

I don't know about if you were to change to a different model phone, but I was able to restore my apps + data when I got a replacement Incredible for the one that was malfunctioning.

I keep thinking about down the road. I'm kind of half seriously thinking about getting the Thunderbolt (if the specs really do stack up well) and passing my Incredible down to my son. If I do that, I would really like to not lose progress on my games, my wallet program data, car program data. Some of it I can export, but not all. Guess we'll see when we get there. :cool:

P.S. Nothing to appologize for. I actually prefer non-committal or "I'm not sure" answers over bad info. I hate it when people give me bad info based on assumptions and claim it to be the gospel truth.
 
P.S. Nothing to appologize for. I actually prefer non-committal or "I'm not sure" answers over bad info. I hate it when people give me bad info based on assumptions and claim it to be the gospel truth.

So do I and the last thing I ever want to do is pass off bad info as fact! I would much rather say "I'm not sure" than tell someone something that could cause them grief!! :D
 
So do I and the last thing I ever want to do is pass off bad info as fact! I would much rather say "I'm not sure" than tell someone something that could cause them grief!! :D

I agree. If I am not sure of the information/advice I am giving, I try to qualify it as such, not that it is fact.

I really try to do this as well. Unfortunately, I've had times where I was absolutely certain, and then was proven wrong. :o Gotta hate it when that happens. ;)

P.S. Just noticed, this is my triple nickel post!
 
well dam after catching up in the thread i am thinking about rooting again man ... dose anyone know if there i a one click root for (2.2) AFTER the OTA ??? and if so jay jay can you pm me sometimes your free so you might me able to help me ? i wanna do it right this time and not have to go through ALL the BS, headache and pain i had to go through to get the OTA that almost bricked my phone and eventually had to have my device replaced ... so i am thinking about rooting the new INC i have not
 
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