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Droid Prime, or Bionic??

Firstly, they should be naming it the Droid Nexus. Perfect marriage of the two lineups. And it sounds pretty bad ass.

Secondly, I'm going with the Bionic for the same reason a lot of other people here are. My OG is dying a very slow death. It's performance is completely unacceptable for my needs. I needed a new phone last month. I'm not going to wait another month for a phone that might be out then.

These are both going to be great phones. I don't think one is going to be leaps and bounds above the other. So I'm satisfied. Plus with the Bionic bundle at Costco, it's a deal that's hard to pass up.
 
I could probably get some life out of it by reverting to FroYo - and maybe get some more apps installed, by reinstalling and reinitializing Swapper2.

But why? I replace my computer hardware easily enough - why can't I replace my phone when I want to?
 
I concur with my esteemed colleague Mr Doodle. The Costco offer is awfully attractive
Although I hate verizon for their arrogance and presumed superiority, I can use their service and cost them some $$$ by not buying their product directly. I too need a new phone, and have for sometime been unable to utilize some apps on my Droid 1, I cannot and will not hold my breathe waiting for the cdma holy grail.
 
I concur with my esteemed colleague Mr Doodle. The Costco offer is awfully attractive
Although I hate verizon for their arrogance and presumed superiority, I can use their service and cost them some $$$ by not buying their product directly. I too need a new phone, and have for sometime been unable to utilize some apps on my Droid 1, I cannot and will not hold my breathe waiting for the cdma holy grail.

Well put.
 
I'd probably go Bionic but the danged locked bootloader is killing it for me. I need my tether! I don't use it alot but when I do I need it! I think both of these devices are going to have ALOT of development people on them probably rather quickly;possibly along the lines of the OG Droid due to the anticipation factor and the abilities of the phones. It's akin to being a mechanic and working on pickup trucks, grandma's grocery getter, the teenagers first car...then all of a sudden someone pulls up in a Ferrari! BAM! INSTANT attention! :D
 
Firstly, they should be naming it the Droid Nexus. Perfect marriage of the two lineups. And it sounds pretty bad ass.

Secondly, I'm going with the Bionic for the same reason a lot of other people here are. My OG is dying a very slow death. It's performance is completely unacceptable for my needs. I needed a new phone last month. I'm not going to wait another month for a phone that might be out then.

These are both going to be great phones. I don't think one is going to be leaps and bounds above the other. So I'm satisfied. Plus with the Bionic bundle at Costco, it's a deal that's hard to pass up.

Where is this Costco deal? Im excited now, I love Costco! :D
 
The way I see it is this:

First, let me say I feel pretty objective to this since I don't have an upgrade since I got my DInc 2.

Moto makes amazing hardware, BUT, what has turned be away from the D3 and Bionic is the locked bootloader (although devs seem to be unfazed by this to some extent), and Blur (even if they don't want to call it that). Not a fan of either.

If the Prime were to be a Nexus device (I know this isn't confirmed yet), it would be pure vanilla skinless Android. This is the BEST way to have Android IMHO. Also, Sammy has already made a Nexus device, and combined with Google's marketing approach to the S, I'd like to say it was pretty damn successful. If I was on T-Mo, I'd have gotten one. This means that Sammy has earned Google's trust with it's revered Nexus line.

My point is, if I were to refer a phone, I'd go for the Prime because although the hardware may not be as great as Moto's, it's a better overall experience considering skinless android software and (if Sammy were to reuse even a bit of the S design) a beautifully designed and built phone.

Just sayin ;)
 
I'm also limping along with a D1 - I decided last year that my next phone would be both dual-core and 4G. So, I've been waiting all year for the Droid Bionic - and now that it's almost here, I hear about the Droid Prime.

I'm... 85% sure that I will go with the Droid Bionic rather than wait for the Droid Prime. The Bionic will get Ice Cream Sandwich soon enough, and the slightly better (unconfirmed) specifications of the Prime just aren't enough to make me keep waiting another month (or possibly longer). Motorola makes great hardware, and I suspect that the Bionic will probably be the more "solid" device.

Now, when I see other people using the NFC chip in their phones, I'm going to look down at my Bionic with a sad face. But, I really don't think NFC will catch on too fast. Just look at the credit cards with a chip that lets you wave it by the scanner. I have an American Express card that can do that. I've used it like that a few times, and the store clerks would always be surprised because they had no idea the cards could be read that way. Imagine what they would think if they told you the price and you started waving your phone by the scanner!
 
I wish one of them had a keyboard!! Why oh why are keyboards not allowed on kick ass 4G dual core phones?
As far as I'm concerned, physical keyboards are a plus, but I can live without them. I rarely use the one on my D1. The SlideIT keyboard is great.

Now I agree, no compromises can be made with dual-core. Sure, in most cases with the current phones dual-core doesn't offer a noticeable advantage. But that's beside the point. What's important is to be able to say that "my phone has a dual-core processor."
 
Actually, that's a misconception, at least in my case. It's not about being able to say you have one - it's about being able to keep up with the rigorous changes in the Android OS as a whole on the lightning speed that it is being updated. Think about it - when the DROID came out it was the debut of Eclair. Android 2.0. Now, we're debating if the Prime will come within 2 years of that same launch date with Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0

Since VZW folks (as I cannot speak for other carriers since I'm on VZW and have been for entirely too long) only get upgrades ~18-20 months, we only get subsidized phones at those time periods. Therefore, buying a dual core phone now is a bit of future proofing, as the trend on software is to always add more features - and that means a larger size. Couple with that fact is the fact that OS will tend to have support for multiple cores on par for when they start becoming mainstream, and if you buy a nice single core 1.5 GHz machine now, chance are that in 6 months to a year you'll be feeling the effects of a phone that simply is not fast enough b/c the latest Jubilee (or whatever J* is gonna be) will be optimized for dual / multiple core machines, and if you don't have one, then your phone could take potentially 50% more time in operations.

Now, some may argue that we're talking slices of milliseconds here - yes, but as I mentioned before, OSs tend to add features - and in doing so tend to get larger and larger. And this means hat your have more source code to process, more lines of execution. Sure, it may not mean anything when you're talking about a few lines here and there, but if you're talking 10000 lines of additional code, between 3 processes, which can only run sequentially on a single core machine, versus 3 process that can be split, so that processes 1and 3 run on core 0 and process 2 runs on core 1, then it makes a huge amount of difference. 10000 times, say .2 ms execution time difference = 2 seconds difference in execution. Then, add the sequential versus parallel operation, and you just added up to 3 seconds in execution in just these three processes. And Operating Systems are generally a lot more complex than 3 simple processes. In fact, most of our apps are generally more complex than just 3 processes as well.

The DROID was purported to be a killer phone - and it was, until Android evolved faster than it could keep up. WAAAAYYYY faster. 256 MB was way too small at the outset, and I'm betting that the 1 GB on the Bionic will be too small too soon as well.

Still, though, I'm going to get the BIONIC, then PRIME, and we'll see what happens to the BIONIC when I get the PRIME.

One thing is for sure - dual core is the absolute minimum I'm going to accept at the moment. Even if the naysayers argue that most apps cannot make use of a dual core app, that's not a problem - as long as the OS can, then it can automagically assign different apps to different cores, or the affinity, for those apps that only use a single core, and POOF! you can have two apps running side by side in a much faster manner than before. Or (and this is probably more likely the case) apps not meant to make use of both cores remain using only a single core, and the OS reserves the other core for itself so it can continue to perform background processes as needed, without slowing the phone and / or slowing the app down.

I've run into this argument thousands of times - "Why are you opting for so many cores, things cannot use them right now?" It's simple, really. To summarize what I wrote above - to make the transition smoother to when things can use them. Because, to me, it's all bout future proofing in order to be able to get maximum use out of my device.
 
Future-proofing makes sense. I stand corrected to an extent: but not everyone NEEDS instantaneous processing. When (IF) a 4G 1.2-1.5GHZ single core 1GB phone comes out, it'll blow our poor OG Droids away as far as speed and capability. And it'll likely be at the $199 cost point vs. $299. That may very well be enough for some folks. Just not you or me. It's my data and I want it NOW!

I'm going to skip Bionic completely and sit on my 3 upgrades until Prime comes out, having 2 left for next year after the quads hit during CES in January (probably). Daughter will use one eventually for something, and Darling Bride hardly uses her Droid... so a hand-me-down Prime will be more than enough phone for her while I pick up next year's latest & greatest :)

Speaking of next year's latest & greatest, is there anything on the distant horizon to watch past the Dinara? That's as far out as I've seen...
 
Perhaps.

I haven't looked forward yet, and I would not be banking on the BIONIC if I didn't need a phone yesterday. Plus, I'll be one of the fewer people who can do a true side by side review of the advantages and disadvantages of both phones.

Finally, if the Prime gets delayed for whatever reason, or turns out not to be the phone that it is now rumored to be, then I won't have any regrets trying to limp along on a phone that cannot serve me when I need it most.

If the WiFi hadn't started acting up in my DROID I'd be content to wait - but I absolutely, positively have to have my phone working for my businesses, and without WiFi, 3G being as slow as it is, I simply cannot afford to wait another day past 8 Sept. I'd buy it right now if I could.
 
i need a skinless ICS android phone on Verizon by the end of this year. I am on my third OG Droid rooted and it is in great condition but it cant handle as much apps as I want on it. If the Droid/Nexus Prime is this phone then AWESOME. I will not mind waiting for it. But for god sakes PLEASE let this Prime be pure GOOGLE Experience. I do not mind not have a keyboard. I use it less and less now that I think about it. And 4G would be great. 720HD Screen would be awesome. And please include a dual core. OMG i just want it to be october already. Battlefield 3 and a new ICS phone
 
Droid Prime just passed wi-fi certification, so now it's on to FCC! Still good timing for a late October launch... maybe the 20th?

However: since it's not "Nexus" on Verizon, do not expect a skinless Prime with no bloatware :eek: :(

Don't shoot the messenger, here... but things are looking worse & worse for a stock vanilla Prime short of rooting and putting CM8 on it (when it comes out, my guess is Jan/Feb).
 
Droid Prime just passed wi-fi certification, so now it's on to FCC! Still good timing for a late October launch... maybe the 20th?

However: since it's not "Nexus" on Verizon, do not expect a skinless Prime with no bloatware :eek: :(

Don't shoot the messenger, here... but things are looking worse & worse for a stock vanilla Prime short of rooting and putting CM8 on it (when it come out, my guess is Jan/Feb).

arghhh no i am going to shoot every messenger out there lol jk, but damn i am still hoping a stock vanilla prime, only other vanilla android that is on verizon is a xperia play and i am not going to settle with that
 
Xperia Play is a non-starter, but I figure that - between LauncherPro and Titanium Backup - I can have a stock vanilla look and freeze the bloatware. I just don't know whether there will be any custom launchers that can work with ICS for awhile. With 1GB of RAM, though, bloatware won't be as much an issue as it would be with a lesser-RAMmed device.
 
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