Rrrracer
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Eris to v2.x, when?
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Ty07allstar
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NKT - Could you post a video of you using the dialer pad and using the keyboard to show if it still lags like it does with 1.5?
Dialer, probably not. Since there's history and personal info there I don't feel comfortable posting it.
I'm using Swype but may be able to get a sample of the stock kb in use. Haven't noticed any lag on it so far.
Ty07allstar
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No noticeable lag.
I have no more info on the failures that were seen. Like I said, I don't know anyone who had the issues they noted.
Swype is awesome! I'm able to type much faster than the stock kb. If there are times I don't feel like swyping, I can just type normally. It's really a neat app.
sic4672
Android Enthusiast
How dare you ask us to behave like mature people and just sit here and wait patiently for the eventual update??? ARE YOU MAD!?!?!?
grvthang
Android Enthusiast
With all this anticipation regarding the 2.1 upgrade, I don't see anyone discussing this:
Along with the handful of useful apps that will be available with 2.1 (I'm sorry, but I don't consider turn-by-turn audio nav all that useful to me - I still want to know where I am in the world without blindly relying on a a box to tell me), a lot of folks are assuming that some of the bugginess of the Eris (particularly the lag) will be erased with 2.1.
But is there the possibility that the Eris' antique, underpowered processor (in smartphone terms) may struggle to run 2.1, thereby causing increased lag and other performance issues??
Along with the handful of useful apps that will be available with 2.1 (I'm sorry, but I don't consider turn-by-turn audio nav all that useful to me - I still want to know where I am in the world without blindly relying on a a box to tell me), a lot of folks are assuming that some of the bugginess of the Eris (particularly the lag) will be erased with 2.1.
But is there the possibility that the Eris' antique, underpowered processor (in smartphone terms) may struggle to run 2.1, thereby causing increased lag and other performance issues??
Caddyman
Android Expert
most put it this way, and i tend to agree
the HW won't change (obviously)
so you are basing any performance benchmarks on SW
people akin 1.5 and 2.X to windows vista and windows 7
2.X/win7 are more optimized and more sleak, faster, therefore most people expect a slightly noticeable increase in performance from 2.X
the HW won't change (obviously)
so you are basing any performance benchmarks on SW
people akin 1.5 and 2.X to windows vista and windows 7
2.X/win7 are more optimized and more sleak, faster, therefore most people expect a slightly noticeable increase in performance from 2.X
Well that may be but it has been said before that 1.5 has been to have minor memory leak issues and that 2.1 is actually a little bit "lighter" in its build and doesnt require as much from the processor to run. Dont know if any of it is true myself, but it wouldnt be the first upgraded os that runs smoother on older equipment.
And it figures caddy would say it alot simpler.
OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
Sure, that is always a possibility. You have to look at which phones are getting Sense 2.1 though. The HTC Hero, Sprint Hero and Eris will all be updated to this new version of Sense 2.1. HTC has really developed this version around these phones. It is one of the reasons we won't have the animated wallpapers. I can't imagine that they would develop something at this point that would be any worse than what we already have.
I would agree, but I also can't believe they would release a product to Verizon that would require an additional month of testing to determine if it will work. One would hope that products and software made for Verizon would be thoroughly tested before they were announced as a fait accompli at a trade show.
OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
I'm not sure how to explain it a different way. Verizon has done this for as long as I have had a smart phone with them. They test everything and then they test it again. They really do want it to be perfect or as close to perfect as it can be the first time around. Obviously there are going to be issues, they can't test the phone with every app in the market, but they try to limit those issues as much as possible. You also have to keep in mind that this isn't software that is just made for Verizon. It is also made for Sprint and a number of European carriers using the original HTC Hero too.
sic4672
Android Enthusiast
I concur with OTD above. Also keep in mind that verizon issues specific requirements for the updated software and HTC complies. In that situation HTC is the producer and verizon is the consumer. The producer wants the consumer happy with the product so they continue to receive business from that consumer. Verizon definately wants to insure the end product is up to their standards, realistic or otherwise.
And what is this lag people are always ranting about? My Eris opens apps and dials very quickly. There is maybe a quarter second pause from when i press "call" or the physical send button and when it starts to call. Certainly no more than any other phone i have ever owned. Apps not requiring the internet open in less than a second unless they are really complex first person shooter games-- which my home computer also requires a few seconds to load. Maybe it is not as blindingly fast as my quad core pentium with 4GB RAM, but come on, it is a phone for the love of Pete, not a supercomputer.
goofdad
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I work in the software industry, and it most assuredly does not work that way. The month of testing is not "required" by HTC, it's required by Verizon. Remember ... just because the software is made for Verizon doesn't mean Verizon trusts HTC's testing. Many companies test MS patches for a month or more before letting them roll out to their corporate infrastructure. Even so, bugs have gotten through.
So ... just because HTC says it's done and tested, I'm not going to fault VZW for doing their own testing. Hopefully it will make for a better experience in the end.
Caddyman
Android Expert
Right, for one, lets say htc has tethering on their phone. Tested and working....check!
Well, if vzw just blindly added it to the update, everyone would get tethering, thus putting a extra load on the network, and causing problems.
But not even to that extent though, things need to be tested by the carrier.
Well, if vzw just blindly added it to the update, everyone would get tethering, thus putting a extra load on the network, and causing problems.
But not even to that extent though, things need to be tested by the carrier.
I hear that. But I guess as a consumer I would expect to be handed a working product, especially if i had special ordered it, as Verizon has done. If my business had special ordered a piece of software, i would certainly expect it to have been tested thoroughly on my network before it was handed off to me as "complete." If it is not, they would not get my business any more.
And to OTD's comment, the version handed to Sprint for the Hero will be different than the one given to Verizon for the Eris. They are not making just one OS mod for all carriers as far as I know. The version handed to Verizon should have been tested on the Verizon network by HTC prior to being declared "done" in Barcelona.
I know Verizon has always done it this way, and will continue to do it. But it still frustrates the hell out me!
CycloneFever
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I have a hard time with this argument due to the fact that I have seen VZW commercials advertising this feature for the Palm Pixi Plus. Or maybe it was wi-fi hotspot. Roughly the same impact either way.
Frisco
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Those of us who purchased our Erises in late January and never got an update have the update in the phone already from the factory then?