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Eris to v2.x, when?
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OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
(I know you hate car analogies)
Yeah, with what is going on with Toyota those are probably the wrong analogies to make when you are apposed to extended testing.
LittleMissSunshine
Lurker
Yeah but angry Italians can be bribed with pasta.
Keep your eye on things, bro.
Dear, you couldn't bribe me with just any pasta
. It'd have to be made by an exquisite Italian chef himself and I would have to fall in love with it, I should know, I'm a full blooded angry Italian . My experiences with customer service from Verizon have been considerably better than my previous encounters with T-Mobile.Frankly yes. If HTC makes the phone and the supposedly functional modified Sense UI version of 2.1, then they are responsible for it not working, not Verizon
If I go to the car dealership to have new tires put on my car and they blow out causing a wreck. It is one thing if they failed because of poor installation, it is quite another if the product itself was faulty. On the one hand i would blame the dealership for poor labor, on the other i would blame Goodyear for making bad tires.
If my calling plan is messed up, or they charge me too much, I blame Verizon. If my phone blows up, or has bad battery life, or the proprietary Sense Ui screws the phone up, who do i blame. The ones who made it!
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
I just don't get it with T-Mobile. How do they stay in business? Their rankings are always at the bottom in coverage as well as customer satisfaction.
Verizon seems ok, but their pricing is higher than Sprint.
I am not suggesting that Verizon should not "kick the tires" or take it for a test drive before they buy. Just that if it takes a month to determine if the Eris 2.1 works as advertised, i should really consider if I should sell HTC products at all. It should work out of the box, or I will not carry their products.
If the new and improved Frosted Flakes make people sick, my grocery store should pull them from the shelves and consider not carrying Kellog products anymore. And i as a shopper should not blame my store for not testing the Frosted Flakes for a month before putting the new improved boxes out. They should not have to, if Kellogs is doing their job.
If the new and improved Frosted Flakes make people sick, my grocery store should pull them from the shelves and consider not carrying Kellog products anymore. And i as a shopper should not blame my store for not testing the Frosted Flakes for a month before putting the new improved boxes out. They should not have to, if Kellogs is doing their job.
scoty777
Well-Known Member
If my phone blows up?
"I have a license to kill gophers using cell phones by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a varmint. And a varmint will never quit - ever. They're like the Viet Cong - Varmint Cong; ERIS CONG-2.1 and we can't wait any longer; we protest and want our cake and eat it too, we want to count our chickens before they hatch AND; WE WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE!!. So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower. And that's all she wrote."
"I have a license to kill gophers using cell phones by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a varmint. And a varmint will never quit - ever. They're like the Viet Cong - Varmint Cong; ERIS CONG-2.1 and we can't wait any longer; we protest and want our cake and eat it too, we want to count our chickens before they hatch AND; WE WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE!!. So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower. And that's all she wrote."
Rrrracer
Android Enthusiast
I'm sure VZW doesn't want to deal with another law-suite after this update.
LOL Chopstick, glad they tossed that one out of court
It would be really SUITE if the app worked though!
scoty777
Well-Known Member
I have another legitimate question for HTK or others; I need to be able to voice dial from my blue tooth; if I were to negotiate a trade with my Eris (SAD-VERY SAD) is the HTC Touch pro 2 a good phone? VZW customer naturally. Any suggestions or thoughts, I am open to others comments and abuse. Thanks.
sic4672
Android Enthusiast
My wife has the touch pro 2, and she likes it. Nice keyboard and the screen is quite responsive for a resistive screen. I you want to abandon all of your friends here and forsake the goodness that is android, then it would be a decent choice
LOL ...nice!
All i am saying is I know Verizon is just covering their assets, as it were. This is wise.
But, if i pay a company to build me something, and they send me a substandard product, I am not going to do business with them for long. If HTC sends me a supposedly finished Sense Ui version of Android 2.1, they better darn well make sure it works BEFORE they send it to me. Especially if I am a billion dollar company who sells their products!
scoty777
Well-Known Member
Absolutely correct-That is why I really don't sweat over this stuff and am have such a good time with it...as I mentioned before..nothing we can do about it-just get in, buckle up, and HANG ON!!!
goofdad
Member
Ahem ... I've been a developer for several multimillion dollar multi nationals ... and ... We've had to constantly explain the intricacies of rolling out the software to the high level execs. Of course, they woud then turn around and add their own cruft on top of what we, as developers, thought was necessary.
So ... I'm not even sure if the high-level-exec's even know what the whole process is.
See how sh** happens for the real explanation.
sic4672
Android Enthusiast
But does anybody really win in that case??????
scoty777
Well-Known Member
Quite profound and true!! It is like If I can't win, nobody does, So - thus if nobody wins, then nobody loses either...Sounds like Socialism; or Marriage....hope my wife isn't reading. Hmmmmm....If a husband says something in a forest and there isn't a wife there to hear him, is he still wrong?
scoty777
Well-Known Member
A FEW PAGES PAST: Some asked the meaning of LIFE?
Brother-a Goofdad-a; You-a Sir; Have-a found-a the taroo meanin ov-a LIFE-a....AMEN-a
sic4672
Android Enthusiast
Quite profound and true!! It is like If I can't win, nobody does, So - thus if nobody wins, then nobody loses either...Sounds like Socialism; or Marriage....hope my wife isn't reading. Hmmmmm....If a husband says something in a forest and there isn't a wife there to hear him, is he still wrong?
A wife will always be there to hear it
, and I wouldn't consider marriage to be socialism... more like living under a totalitarian dictator.Now I'm curious... OTD, who's the "husband" and who is the "wife" in your relationship?
scoty777
Well-Known Member
a wife will always be there to hear it
Yah, I want to know how she is always there to hear it too; no matter how far I row, row, row my boat-there she is! May be if 2.1 had a ball and chain separator device, I need to go look at market place for that!!! Someone else told me they tried other version but they had to trade in their franks and beans for for the ball and chain----NOW THERES A CHOICE!
GoenMo,
I'm a software developer, and let me tell you... it is nearly impossible to put out a bug free piece of software. That being said, 2.1 is not a piece of software, it's several pieces of software. It IS impossible to put out an OS that is bug free. Why? Because you can never use something in every way that it will be used in the real world. Since you cannot do that, you cannot encounter every single bug in testing. You can get a lot of them, even most of them, but not all of them. Verizon is just trying to catch as many of the bugs, that HTC didn't catch, as they can. When they get all of the bugs they found fixed, they will release the OS update to us.
Guess what? It will still have bugs that no one was able to find. Pieces don't always fit together the way that they should.
And regardless of what anyone tells you... there is no such thing as a developer who produces code without bugs.
But, see that is the point. The intricacies of rollout are one thing. There may be an issue with pushing out this update OTA. That is legitimate.
But as a developer, I am sure you did not design a product for a multi-million multi-national, claim it was a fait accompi to millions of people at an international industry gathering, and then expect your client to spend the next month or two making sure it actually worked. If it didn't you would be fired and blacklisted so fast it would make you head spin.
sic4672
Android Enthusiast
Someone else told me they tried other version but they had to trade in their franks and beans for for the ball and chain----NOW THERES A CHOICE!
You didn't see that line in the marriage contrat either???? Good, I thought I was just stupid.
goofdad
Member
I did, however, design products for a mm/mn, sit in meetings with Sales and Marketing and give them delivery dates and good faith estimates on how confident we were that we'd make those dates only to have them present them in a conference the next day as a fait accompli. Every. Damn. Time.
I've also watched them flat out lie to customers about the underlying technology behind a product I was coding (umm...I quit that job).
That's why devs refer to marketing as the two-drink-minimum-club.
Remember ... Dilbert is not a comic strip. It's a documentary.
We all know it will not be bug free. That is a given. One would hope that when a company like HTC says it is done, that it is, in fact, done. One would hope that it is stable enough to use before they hand it off. If it works 99.8%, as it should before HTC calls it done...
As you say they could spend the next couple years finding all the bugs. So just give it to us, and send out patches like you always do anyway.