I honestly don't see how the phone could be a disappointment... Spec wise it eat's the evo for breakfast and as long as the hardware is there we'll get a good rom for it eventually if the stock one sucks, but honestly I don't think it will. If I was worried I wouldn't have put in a preorder for it.
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Skullbussa
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Ok, first of all, this phone would have to be an absolute piece of **** to be as bad as the Palm Pre. I suffered through that POS for 8 months and could not wait to part company with it.
Secondly, exercise your right to return the Evo 3D within 30 days. The Evo 4G had atrocious battery life - I was happy to return it and tell Sprint they had a device with defective power management.
I pre-ordered the Evo 3D and I'll do the same damn thing if battery life isn't better. And I strongly recommend everybody else do the same thing.
Secondly, exercise your right to return the Evo 3D within 30 days. The Evo 4G had atrocious battery life - I was happy to return it and tell Sprint they had a device with defective power management.
I pre-ordered the Evo 3D and I'll do the same damn thing if battery life isn't better. And I strongly recommend everybody else do the same thing.
ogrenator
Android Enthusiast
LMAO are you serious? what would you consider "good" battery life? any smartphone that gets a day from one charge is very acceptable...anything more is icing on the cake
when i got my EVO I got about 9 hours of normal use with no charges in between...now I get about 30 hours of normal/heavy use...I guess I just don't get what you are expecting from a smartphone with a large touchscreen
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
Many people have the expectation that when the screen is off and the phone is not in use by the owner, the only battery drain should come from cell standby, just like any other phone, smart or dumb.
The Evo was configured poorly out of the box and drained the battery much too fast for not even using it at all.
Therefore, it's completely justified for people to be unhappy and return the phone. Yes, there were tips and tricks that helped reduce the drain, but I remember those tricks; many of them were overkill and gave people the impression they had to handicap their phones in order to have decent battery life.
Let's wait and see how E3D does out of the box. If battery life is still an issue, just check here on these forums. We'll fix it for ya
The Evo was configured poorly out of the box and drained the battery much too fast for not even using it at all.
Therefore, it's completely justified for people to be unhappy and return the phone. Yes, there were tips and tricks that helped reduce the drain, but I remember those tricks; many of them were overkill and gave people the impression they had to handicap their phones in order to have decent battery life.
Let's wait and see how E3D does out of the box. If battery life is still an issue, just check here on these forums. We'll fix it for ya
ogrenator
Android Enthusiast
Many people have the expectation that when the screen is off and the phone is not in use by the owner, the only battery drain should come from cell standby, just like any other phone, smart or dumb.
The Evo was configured poorly out of the box and drained the battery much too fast for not even using it at all.
Therefore, it's completely justified for people to be unhappy and return the phone. Yes, there were tips and tricks that helped reduce the drain, but I remember those tricks; many of them were overkill and gave people the impression they had to handicap their phones in order to have decent battery life.
Let's wait and see how E3D does out of the box. If battery life is still an issue, just check here on these forums. We'll fix it for ya
I'm just saying any modern smartphone eats juice like its going out of style.....justified or not.... that's a matter of opinion
even with a bigger battery on the 3VO I am willing to bet it will get marginally better life than the original but will still only be about a day just like every other smartphone in the last few years...
ArmageddonX
Android Expert
If battery life is that big of a concern to somebody, then buying an extended battery is a wise investment.
I have a Palm Pre right now. If I start browsing the web or trying to use data services I can kill my phone in an hour from a full charge. Easily.
Really hoping for better battery life than that in my Evo3D.
I have a Palm Pre right now. If I start browsing the web or trying to use data services I can kill my phone in an hour from a full charge. Easily.
Really hoping for better battery life than that in my Evo3D.
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
our smartphones don't draw any more power than any comparable dedicated device for any given task it's doing. For example, turn off all radios and keep your music player playing music. See how long it takes to die. For me, it played 7 days straight.
OTOH, the battery is sucked dry fast if you're using Navigation/GPS. But take a standalone GPS unit and see how much power it uses. It's the same. That's why they plug into your car. If you run on batteries, you'll be burning through a ton of them.
So if your battery is draining fast, it means the phone is doing a lot of work, either through the radio or the CPU. And if it's in your pocket and you're not using it, chances are you don't want it to be doing all that work.
That's where the tweaking comes in. You have to figure out what the F is using the radio and/or CPU and stop it. That's the part some people struggle with. But once you've minimized all the unwanted work, the battery lasts a LONG time.
Yes, it means you have to get under the hood, but the phone is perfectly capable of running lean. And no, smartphones don't have to be battery hogs just because they are capable of it.
OTOH, the battery is sucked dry fast if you're using Navigation/GPS. But take a standalone GPS unit and see how much power it uses. It's the same. That's why they plug into your car. If you run on batteries, you'll be burning through a ton of them.
So if your battery is draining fast, it means the phone is doing a lot of work, either through the radio or the CPU. And if it's in your pocket and you're not using it, chances are you don't want it to be doing all that work.
That's where the tweaking comes in. You have to figure out what the F is using the radio and/or CPU and stop it. That's the part some people struggle with. But once you've minimized all the unwanted work, the battery lasts a LONG time.
Yes, it means you have to get under the hood, but the phone is perfectly capable of running lean. And no, smartphones don't have to be battery hogs just because they are capable of it.
My biggest concern is whether it will do some things that I'm used to doing with my rooted EVO 4G?
Does anyone know if the above features have been confirmed?
Thanks!
- Free wireless tether. I don't use it often, but it's really come in handy on several occasions
- Netflix- works great on my Froyo-based ROM, and I won't upgrade to a GB ROM until netflix works
- Full HDMI mirroring - I can plug my phone into a TV and watch netflix or HBO GO on the big screen.
Does anyone know if the above features have been confirmed?
Thanks!
ebolamonkey3
Android Enthusiast
Well given how the bootloader is unlocked and a ROM has already been dumped on XDA, I'd say root will be available by launch, along with tether and HDMI mirroring.
Netflix on the other hand, no idea.
ebolamonkey3
Android Enthusiast
Another concern of mine.
For the past couple of days I've been using a temporary phone (Sanyo Zio) with a dedicated camera button at roughly the same location as the camera button on the 3vo. I've already misclicked the button numerous times, and accidentally going into camera mode is getting annoying.
Now granted this phone is much smaller than the 3vo and the camera button's pretty finicky, but to me this is still a valid concern since I would hate to accidentally press the camera button while doing something else.
For the past couple of days I've been using a temporary phone (Sanyo Zio) with a dedicated camera button at roughly the same location as the camera button on the 3vo. I've already misclicked the button numerous times, and accidentally going into camera mode is getting annoying.
Now granted this phone is much smaller than the 3vo and the camera button's pretty finicky, but to me this is still a valid concern since I would hate to accidentally press the camera button while doing something else.
The camera button isn't a problem on smartphones. My DX has a dedicated camera button. You have to hold it down for 5 seconds before it loads the camera app. You can manually launch the app if you don't want to wait 5 seconds.
And that's a full push down. It is a 2-step button (like the E3D). So just pushing it to the 1st stage will do nothing, even if you hold it for 30 minutes.
ebolamonkey3
Android Enthusiast
Skullbussa
Newbie
A good battery life is a day of usage, with all features enabled, on one charge. I can do this on my Blackberry, on my iPhone, and many people are doing this on other Android phones. During my 29 days with the Evo 4G, it was impossible to do.
Sticking your head into the sand and denying it is a problem is absurd since every single review of the phone makes mention of the power management issues.
ArmageddonX
Android Expert
I think anything above 4 hours of talk time or heavy web browsing is good battery life. I'm on a Palm Pre and I'm lucky if I get 2. So in my case the Evo3D (and even the Evo4G) would be a battery upgrade for me lol
Kidmet
Member
Steve, read the second page of the "are any of us eligible" thread. i posted a number that will give you the early upgrade. Just sayin...
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
By your definition, I can run my wife's iPhone's GPS for 2 hours before the battery is completely dead. So... "all features enabled" and "full day of usage" needs more qualification.
Another example: there's no way I could play Angry Birds on an iPhone and have the battery last all day, yet that would qualify under "a day of usage."
But I hear you. Evo 4G was configured out of the box very poorly, and it was doing a lot of stuff that you wouldn't have known about or cared about.
The key to good battery life is getting the phone only to draw power when YOU need it to do something. The Evo is quite capable of this. There is no sacrifice in functionality. IMO, I don't need my phone to be polling Facebook or online status of my GTalk friends when the phone screen is off and the phone is in my pocket. Yet this is exactly how the Evo was configured out of the box. Not to mention all the crapware that kept using the radio without the user's knowledge.
Anyway, if the 3VO is just as poorly configured out of the box (which I doubt), I encourage everyone to come here and discuss the problems. Most likely we can resolve the issue.
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well now i am just worried about my phone. My car's ac adapter is questionable at best. So being able to go a whole day (8 - 10) hours without having to charge is a must.
One of my concerns is that the Evo 4G did come out-of-the-box so poorly configured. On launch day, if not already done by the Sprint Premium members because of their 3 day advantage, I plan on going through the Evo 4G forum and seeing what optimizations are still applicable.
I like my DX's battery life. I stream Pandora/GMusic to my bluetooth headset through wifi practically throughout my work day (it's sporadic depending on work load and interactions with people, of course) and survives through a few phone calls or text barrages at night. Just when it starts going through it's death throes, it's time for bed and it goes on it's charger. If the E3D can do that, or more, I'd be happy. Not that I'd expect it to do that well in the first week or so of ownership, showing off, exploring the 3D aspect, new games, et cetera. But when routine settles in, I would hope it can.
I like my DX's battery life. I stream Pandora/GMusic to my bluetooth headset through wifi practically throughout my work day (it's sporadic depending on work load and interactions with people, of course) and survives through a few phone calls or text barrages at night. Just when it starts going through it's death throes, it's time for bed and it goes on it's charger. If the E3D can do that, or more, I'd be happy. Not that I'd expect it to do that well in the first week or so of ownership, showing off, exploring the 3D aspect, new games, et cetera. But when routine settles in, I would hope it can.
ebolamonkey3
Android Enthusiast
I wouldn't worry too much about that. The premier members who are getting this phone on the 21st are also the members most likely to tweak with the settings. There will probably also be a guide on optimal battery tweaks within the week of release.
The bootloader's unlocked, the phone's been rooted, and the ROM's been dumped. It wouldn't surprise me if someone already has the phone running on a custom ROM by the 24th when the rest of us gets it.
But for now, you can chew on this
20 tips to improve HTC EVO 4G battery life
I'm not horribly concerned about it, just something I'm going to keep in mind when I pick it up. Likely, I'll already know the tweaks because they will be posted here, but still. I watch my battery level throughout the day enough as it is. I was never diagnosed with OCD, but for some things, I swear I have it. Not many things, but some.
I find enjoyment of tweaking my devices to make them work better. For example, my DX used to not survive my work day, or it would barely make it. Now it usually has 30-40%. But I swear, that last 20% lasts longer than the 80% before it.
I find enjoyment of tweaking my devices to make them work better. For example, my DX used to not survive my work day, or it would barely make it. Now it usually has 30-40%. But I swear, that last 20% lasts longer than the 80% before it.
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
ugh. No offense to you, since you probably just did a quick google search, but I really hate those 20 tips.
That article was thrown around quite a bit when the Evo was released, and through my own controlled tests, I determined that most of those tips don't do squat, and it gave people the impression that the phone had to be completely nerfed to work.
In other words, that article helped the Evo earn a crappy reputation for battery life.
Tips 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 13, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20 either don't make much difference, or they are flat-out wrong.
That's 14 out of 20 tips that don't help.
The dark wallpapers thing is for OLED tech, where power increases according to brightness. Normally the opposite happens on an LCD, but I'm not sure you'd notice it.
Never use automatic task killers. As you move closer to Android ownership, we'll gladly convert you on that.
Unlike novox77, I find a few of those tips are OK - but the context of when / how to deploy is rather important.
I suggest we wait and see on the new phone. I do about zero special on WifelyMon's Shift and her battery life is insanely great.
Never use automatic task killers. As you move closer to Android ownership, we'll gladly convert you on that.
Unlike novox77, I find a few of those tips are OK - but the context of when / how to deploy is rather important.
I suggest we wait and see on the new phone. I do about zero special on WifelyMon's Shift and her battery life is insanely great.
Honestly, I think between the larger battery, significant improvements in power usage over the Android 2.1 > 2.2 > 2.3, and the smaller fabrication, asychronous dual core processor, I'm expecting the phone to have decent battery life, and battery life much better than the Evo 4G when it first came out.
I dunno if this link will work, but the battery chart is at the bottom: HTC Sensation 4G - Benchmark Test Results
As far as I can see, the only x factor in predicting the Evo 3D's battery life from the Sensation's can be boiled down to 1) the unknown power requirements of the parallax barrier (particularly when in 2D mode), 2) the unknown power requirements of the 2nd camera (power draw on idle), and 3) the power requirements of the 4G chip and antenna.
In my unbridled optimism, I'm thinking that the ~200+ mAH difference in batteries will be enough to outweigh those unknowns.
I dunno if this link will work, but the battery chart is at the bottom: HTC Sensation 4G - Benchmark Test Results
As far as I can see, the only x factor in predicting the Evo 3D's battery life from the Sensation's can be boiled down to 1) the unknown power requirements of the parallax barrier (particularly when in 2D mode), 2) the unknown power requirements of the 2nd camera (power draw on idle), and 3) the power requirements of the 4G chip and antenna.
In my unbridled optimism, I'm thinking that the ~200+ mAH difference in batteries will be enough to outweigh those unknowns.
ebolamonkey3
Android Enthusiast
Is there a better guide out there then? I was just thinking, an official thread with all the consolidated tips on battery saving would be very helpful.