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My iphone fanboy friend likes to always say the iphone is the best because its the top selling phone. I like how people think that sales numbers makes something the best. So I guess the best TV in America is Visio? And the best car in America is the Honda Accord? They may sell the most. But i would rather watch my 65inch Sharp Aquos LED than the Visio walmart special tv. Or i would rather drive an Audi A6 over that accord. Sales numbers dont dictate the best.

BTW.... when we tested every feature side by side his iphone was destroyed in every test. He didnt know what to say. Then i asked him to test the Navigation software and he could only look at me with a smile. He knew he was defeated. The only thing he could say was his screen was brighter and a little more clear. And it was. But the 4.3 inches more than makes up for this.

The iphone has some advantages over the EVO. Video camera is a big one if you use that feature (i do), and battery life is another. But for everything else the Evo beats it. Regardless of how many people buy the iphone.

Ask a Apple fanboy if HP makes the best laptops and if Dell makes the best PC's then, and watch their reaction.
 
If the iPhone was the first smartphone then we would have a dumb user base? That is a pretty sizable assumption. If you're able to make that assumption, then I can assume that without the iPhone, we wouldn't have....

Android
WinMo7
BB OS 6
Symbian 4

All 4 of those mobile OSs are now incorporating multimedia and a more robust App store because of the iPhone in 2007.
Actually, because of the iPhone it looks like WMP7 is getting pretty dumbed down instead of progressing forward.

As far as apps, just because WM didn't have an app store, there was pretty much an app for everything. It just wasn't in one place to find but they were out there.

Anyone, arguing with an iPhone fan boy seems kind of pointless to me....Have a nice day.
 
Actually, because of the iPhone it looks like WMP7 is getting pretty dumbed down instead of progressing forward.

Android isn't dumbed down. If WinMo7 fails, its MS's own fault.

As far as apps, just because WM didn't have an app store, there was pretty much an app for everything. It just wasn't in one place to find but they were out there.

Yeah because I like to waste time to surf the web to find a tip calculator that costs $5 and is still a piece of crap. That's so enjoyable.

Anyone, arguing with an iPhone fan boy seems kind of pointless to me....Have a nice day.

An Apple hater is just as bad. If the sky is blue, then its blue, if ice is cold, its cold, you tell an Apple Hater that Apple's app store is the top leading app store currently, they'll find a lame excuse why its not.

Have a nice day.
 
An Apple hater is just as bad. If the sky is blue, then its blue, if ice is cold, its cold, you tell an Apple Hater that Apple's app store is the top leading app store currently, they'll find a lame excuse why its not.

Have a nice day.

Apple's App Store has more apps by volume, but can I post my own app to it that does something that displeases Steve Jobs? Of course not. Can I side load my own app to my phone bypassing the store anyway? Absolutely not.

(If we're doing an Apples-to-Apples here, then rooting/jailbreaking doesn't count. Android and WinMo 6.x don't require this.)

Is Apple's App Store "top leading" by app volume? yes. Is it the "best app store?" That just depends on how much of a mindless zombie the person you're asking that question of, is.
 
Is Apple's App Store "top leading" by app volume? yes. Is it the "best app store?" That just depends on how much of a mindless zombie the person you're asking that question of, is.

Do you really wanna go down that road? Apple's app store is "top leading" by volume and quality. The difference is so vast its not even funny.

UI, Performance, features, all 3 of these things are better on an iPhone app variant. For example run Facebook App on the iPhone and run the one on Android. There are examples like this across the board in the App store.

There are a few apps on the Android that are better, most are developed by Google themselves.
 
Do you really wanna go down that road? Apple's app store is "top leading" by volume and quality. The difference is so vast its not even funny.

UI, Performance, features, all 3 of these things are better on an iPhone app variant. For example run Facebook App on the iPhone and run the one on Android. There are examples like this across the board in the App store.

There are a few apps on the Android that are better, most are developed by Google themselves.

Are you talking about the App Store or the apps available via. the App Store? Because I'm talking about the former of the two.

Of course, it's very Apple-thinking that Apps=Apps Store (and vice versa), because there's no other possible (legal) way to get apps, but that's not the case on any other platform, so the two things are completely separate for the rest of the world.
 
Do you really wanna go down that road? Apple's app store is "top leading" by volume and quality. The difference is so vast its not even funny.

UI, Performance, features, all 3 of these things are better on an iPhone app variant. For example run Facebook App on the iPhone and run the one on Android. There are examples like this across the board in the App store.

There are a few apps on the Android that are better, most are developed by Google themselves.

Couldn't agree more; I've owned both:

Look, anyone, including a 6 year old, could compare "paper specs", add the numbers up, and declare a winner.....

What you really need to do is:

1. Decide what features you want,
2. Research, review, get some hands-on experience,
3. then, maybe, look at the whole price/performance.

It can be a complicated (if you want it to be) and a personal process. It has nothing to do w/ intelligence, or presumably lack thereof, and more to do w/ preference, taste, utility, lifestyle, carrier coverage, etc.

For example, and ignoring any carrier issues:

If I desperately needed have the best camera/video phone, I'd go w/ the iPhone.

If I desperately need a large screen I'd go w/ the Evo or Droid X.

If I desperately needed the best gaming experience I'd get the Samsung Galaxy S.

If I desperately needed business interoperability, I'd get a Blackberry.

Fear of Android, IOS, a wall garden, Apple, etc. should not be an issue.

So, what do you value most?

......Even though I can appreciate Apple's efforts in the smartphone business (they started it all, period!!!), I grow more concerned w/ where they are heading, and am beginning to lean toward the Android universe. For example, iTune is just "old hat" and headed in the wrong direction. The 3.5" screen size is also too small.

At the same time, the Carriers are screwing up these early Android phones big time w/ their own "closed" specs, UI interfaces, and various marketing gimmicks and add-ons......Google tried to create a standard w/ the Nexus One, but Samsung, HTC, and Moto just want to have it their way....I'm sure money is involved.
 
It can be a complicated (if you want it to be) and personal process. It has nothing to do w/ intelligence, or presumably lack thereof, and more to do w/ preference, taste, utility, lifestyle, carrier coverage, etc.

It shouldn't have anything to do with all those things, but for a lot of people it does. Especially when it comes to lifestyle and intelligence (no offense to anyone out there). Usually that only pertains to Apple products, though. People are strictly-Apple and the others are people who just want a product that looks great, is popular, and does what they need it to do. A lot of people don't bother knowing the competition, I think, but just get the iPhone and are done with it. I know people JUST like that. They don't even have any apps on their iPhone (no joke)! They just wanted it because it's all they cared to know.

:rolleyes:
 
It shouldn't have anything to do with all those things, but for a lot of people it does. Especially when it comes to lifestyle and intelligence (no offense to anyone out there). Usually that only pertains to Apple products, though. People are strictly-Apple and the others are people who just want a product that looks great, is popular, and does what they need it to do. A lot of people don't bother knowing the competition, I think, but just get the iPhone and are done with it. I know people JUST like that. They don't even have any apps on their iPhone (no joke)! They just wanted it because it's all they cared to know.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, I know what you mean....I dated someone that had NO apps on her original iPhone, and I know she bought it, just cause she wanted it.....it was so hip. Thing is, she was and it a smart one. I just think for some people, it's like jewelry.

I just wanted to point out that intelligent, cell phone enthusiasts that do their research are also capable of choosing the iPhone, and if they do, so what....it works for them.
 
......Even though I can appreciate Apple's efforts in the smartphone business (they started it all, period!!!)

I'm sorry, did Windows Mobile simply not exist before the iPhone? Because I'm sure as all get up that I was running that on my smart phones way before the first iPhone ever existed.
 
Are you talking about the App Store or the apps available via. the App Store? Because I'm talking about the former of the two.

Of course, it's very Apple-thinking that Apps=Apps Store (and vice versa), because there's no other possible (legal) way to get apps, but that's not the case on any other platform, so the two things are completely separate for the rest of the world.

I'm talking about the actual apps. Although I also think the App store is better than the Android Marketplace.
 
I'm sorry, did Windows Mobile simply not exist before the iPhone? Because I'm sure as all get up that I was running that on my smart phones way before the first iPhone ever existed.

Window Mobile....yes, it never really existed. It's dead to me, and most people.

If you don't think the iPhone prompted the smartphone revolution (the phone, the OS, and the App Store), your head is buried in the sand. WM has always sucked.

We'll see about Windows Mobile 7
 
Sales numbers definitely don't dictate what product is best, agreed. Even moreso the iOS vs Android to me is more of a demographics issue. Super nerds like myself who wanna mess with everything and customize to levels beyond comprehension will probably go to Android. Whereas entry level and some tech nerds want something that looks attractive, has good games and just works without potential for DFU-Errors will go for iOS.

About the battery life: Yes some people had issues, but like I just said Android is set up for user-control. You can leave all your radios on like a **** and let the battery die if you choose to, or you can pay attention to what you're doing and get great battery life as I do (Rarely go below 60% and that's with heavy use).

Exactly. Add up all the Android sales #'s and come back to me. Since Apple makes one phone, and Android makes all different varieties. You can't compare.
 
I've owned both the evo and the iPhone and I would say that the Evo has ok battery life if you do all of the optimizations. Even after all of that, the battery life still pales in comparison to the iPhone.

Hmm, my EVO out lasts my iphone 3GS by a good amount.
 
What you heard doesn't match my experience. When I had the evo it would last from 7am to 4pm. My iPhone? It would last till 8pm. The battery life isn't marginally better, it's significantly better.

This is the difference between ok and excellent battery life. The battery life on the Evo didn't bother me because it wasn't bad, but when you have a device that lasts a whole day it's pretty amazing. I talked on the phone for hours and for the first time I didn't have to be hooked up to a wall outlet.

My iphone from 6:30am till 10pm at night, would show 15-20% left. My EVO now same settings and setup, shows 50% battery left after that time. So no, the iphone does NOT last as long.

I also had to turn stuff off on the iphone to allow it to at least last the day.
 
Window Mobile....yes, it never really existed. It's dead to me, and most people.

If you don't think the iPhone prompted the smartphone revolution (the phone, the OS, and the App Store), your head is buried in the sand. WM has always sucked.

We'll see about Windows Mobile 7

Windows Mobile, Palm OS and BlackBerry all started the PDA phone revolution. Apple was LATE in the game and came out with the 2G 3-4 years ago. All the ones I mentioned above have been around for much much longer.
 
My iphone from 6:30am till 10pm at night, would show 15-20% left. My EVO now same settings and setup, shows 50% battery left after that time. So no, the iphone does NOT last as long.

I also had to turn stuff off on the iphone to allow it to at least last the day.

I think battery arrangements need to take in 1 major variable.... service signal!!!!!!!!!

depending on the person's location and their service provider's signal strength in that location. This can greatly affect the life of the battery in question.

so, it easily can give you contradicting out comes for each person. So you both are correct. No need to bash it out. both are great phones.

but.... the EVO can pop in a backup battery! :p
 
I, for one, am very fickle, tech-wise. Sure, I have my favorites, but I reserve the right to switch allegiances based upon which platform fulfills my tall list of needs.

I will not be blindly loyal to anyone platform.

I love Android. I think it is the slickest OS out there, and the future has not been scratched. I love the selection, and love the utility of the free applications. I am a huge fan of Google, and have been using their utilites for years. Android is the logical next step for me, an old school Palm and BlackBerry user.

Currently, I am not a big fan of the iPhone. I think the latest is worthy device, just doesn't do enough for me at this time.

Now, what do you think would happen if Apple were to develop a device which met my needs and was on a reliable carrier? What do you think I would do if they created a device that, in my estimation, truly blew every other device on every other platform out the water?

I'd be like, "Bye Android!" I'd leave in a heartbeat.

The whole "Imma a ride or die" is silly in gang life, and sillier when it comes to technology. I remember some of the weird things we said about Palm devices back in the day and laugh.

When it comes to tech devices, it's all about me, and how my needs can be met. I don't see how anyone can outdo Android OS in that regard anytime soon, but I have been wrong before. The one thing I won't do is rag and someone who does their due diligence and gets an iPhone.
 
I only get 1 bar at work, at home I get 3 bars. So you tell me.

I dont know your area well.. been there on vacation a few times.

again... maybe your AT&T signal is worse..(like that is something new to us)

and I was not just talking about u... just the battery comparison in general. You get great EVO battery life... NIce... cool... glad for u. :D
 
I have to say that Android fanboys are as bad as iphone fanboys. For people to say that the Evo beats the iPhone on every aspect is just nonsense and I have the Evo. People have to figure out what functions/options a user really needs. Since owning the Evo, I have yet to try out the HDMI output and the video camera/photo quality is not even up to par vs. the iPhone. The few things iPhone does, it does well. Do I really need a buggy HDMI output which to me is a gimmick anyways? And if my Evo was superior to the iPhone, why does my phone lag even compared to the old 3gs? *shrugs*

There's a reason why people get the iPhone even with people knowing that AT&T's network is subpar. It's a great phone and if it was available on other (better) carriers, don't be surprised to see a significant increase in iPhone users.
 
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