Sauske
Android Enthusiast
If I were you, I would debate about getting the SGS3 or the LTEvo! They did a video comparison and the Nexus lacks in many department to stay in this battle:ridinghorse:!
P.s..I'm getting the LTEvo:thumbup:!
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First/pre-announcement LTEVO vs. GSIII Thread
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If I were you, I would debate about getting the SGS3 or the LTEvo! They did a video comparison and the Nexus lacks in many department to stay in this battle:ridinghorse:!
P.s..I'm getting the LTEvo:thumbup:!
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
I wouldn't rule out the photon q either. Wait till samsung, htc and Googlrola have released their superphones and go from there. Don't make a decision based on anybody elses needs because what's important to them, might not be equally important to you.
I've loved the photon, since upgrading from the evo 4g and the photon was without a doubt the most underrated phone last year.
I agree with you, the Photon is amazing!.. so underrated. But one thing.. and this is (just) my opinion, so please dont flame me. I had the SGSII (E4GT) and the GPS was so pathetic I had to leave it. I exchanged it 3 times, hoping that it was just a bad phone (It really was a great device.. so fast, great cam, great screen)... but Samsung cant seem to do radios too well... same problems in the original galaxy S, so I hear, which continued to the 3 GSII's I owned. Went to the EVO 3D because of this nightmare, and really glad I did.
So I will likely skip the GSIII regardless. I read alot at s4gru, he said he has confirmation of another phone in Sprints LTE Labs soon... although hes not sure if it is a future WP 8 or the "Photon2." What ever it is, he says it uses the Qualcomm s4 chip. If its the Photon 2, I'll definitively consider it... the original photon (which i also owned) was a spectacular device (minus the pentile display). But, for now... My best phone experiences have been with EVO's... Hands down. So its going to a lot to pull me away from the upcoming EVO LTE.
Sauske
Android Enthusiast
Samsung Debuts Exynos 4 Quad, the Next Galaxy's Engine.....
Samsung Debuts Exynos 4 Quad, the Next Galaxy's Engine (Phone Scoop)
Samsung says new Galaxy phone to use its quad-core processor | Reuters
Samsung?s New Quad-core Application Processor Drives Advanced Feature Sets in Smartphones and Tablets | ?????
We all new this! Confirmation!
Samsung Debuts Exynos 4 Quad, the Next Galaxy's Engine (Phone Scoop)
Samsung says new Galaxy phone to use its quad-core processor | Reuters
Samsung?s New Quad-core Application Processor Drives Advanced Feature Sets in Smartphones and Tablets | ?????
We all new this! Confirmation!
saw that. looks like its based on the outdated a-9 architecture, although probably not a big deal since Sammy processors are extremely fast. Question: does it support LTE?? None of the current quad cores do. If it does not support LTE, we certainly wont see that processor 'round here.
We could, if they up the chip count and power consumption to include an LTE modem chip. Not at all unheard of.
I suppose some of the SGS3 rumors have to be true, but so many have been whacked, I am going to wait and see.
Specs are Specs and build quality is what I am after. Every picture, every video, gives something we have never seen before (form factor) The quality build of LTEVO is going to be appreciated most in hand. The bloody thing is art. We have seen the amount of care went into the construction of it! Just the build quality alone says flagship. I don't think will be able to put a case on it. I will have to fabricate my own mink fur leather case to gently expose it to on lookers. (My precious!) ROFL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNlGtUPuabs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNlGtUPuabs
heavychevy
Android Expert
Sorry, but you are smoking if you think lcd is better than an hd samoled.
I will probably end up with both phones, the htc will be a better phone while the samsung the better device (gadget). samsung is closing the gap though and i will wait to see if the if the htc leaks light again. if it does i will not buy.
the better screen thing is definitely one of those to each his/her own cases. some prefer better natural colors, while others prefer the blackest blacks and over saturation. dont know if he smokes, but definitely doesn't have to be doing so to consider LCD superior. I say it with L O V E
NYCHitman1
Gun for Hire
Lol, you obviously haven't seen the SLCD2 display in action. Ohhhh it was beautiful.
heavychevy
Android Expert
You guys are starting to sound like the Samsung boys.
The E4GT screen was significantly better than the EVO 3D, the only thing that made it close was the low res screen on the Epic. In a 720p version, nothing is touching Samoled. You can see the color start to fade on the videos of the Evo LTE. Simply does not compare in viewing angle, or contrast, that will not change.
The color adjustments on the new Samoleds allow for better color reproduction than before. The only downfall is that with the high contrast, it's hard to view dark movies. However the Samsungs have been so much better in file compatibility that I'd rather watch it on Samoled than have to convert it and lose quality to get it on the EVO. Of course I have not seen what file types the new EVO will be compatible with.
Sauske
Android Enthusiast
Samsung is trying to compete with the other chipset maker I.e. Qualcomm and the others, so I would assume that they will support LTE, if they have a chance to compete with them!
I'm not trying to start a flame war! But the reason I get HTC device is that there easy to root and they don't take long to update their phone like samsung. I've always had an HTC device, and even when I notice other phone being better in certain departments, I would accept it! Certain trade off's from HTC v.s. the competitors were worth it TO ME. You are a mirror of a samsung boy when you can't be objective...for you to say the LTEvo as wash out color's and reviewer saying it has natural color's (One x also) IMHO that you never physically having phone and making that call is malarkey! Like I sated earlier, I do not want a war! That statement in bold above made by you!? How do you actually know that!? You don't, because there isn't a new samsung phone to review to make that claim! All I'm saying is to be objective, and have basis (review or personal) on what your saying!
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
I agree with you, the Photon is amazing!.. so underrated. But one thing.. and this is (just) my opinion, so please dont flame me. I had the SGSII (E4GT) and the GPS was so pathetic I had to leave it. I exchanged it 3 times, hoping that it was just a bad phone (It really was a great device.. so fast, great cam, great screen)... but Samsung cant seem to do radios too well... same problems in the original galaxy S, so I hear, which continued to the 3 GSII's I owned. Went to the EVO 3D because of this nightmare, and really glad I did.
It's interesting. The issues with radios in Samsung devices seems more of a crap shoot nowadays, than it was in earlier devices (like the Moment and Original Epic). I had the original Epic on one of my secondary lines. It was great for 1 year, but after that the radios took a turn for the worst and needed a hard reset just to get it right. Nontheless, the SGS 2 seemed okay for majority, with exception to a few. There were a lot of issues with the Photon after launch, but what I loved the most is Motorola issued update, after update, after update...what seemed like immediately, after the issues were reported. I experienced similar things with HTC, where their support was awesome. Only reason I've stayed away form Samsung was because of lack of mobile support (although, it does seem they've turned the corner after the success of the SGS2).
I'll have to check out what they said at S4GRU regarding the other device in Sprint's LTE labs w/ the Qualcomm S4 processor. Funny thing, when the rumor about the "Photon Q LTE" was released, the speculations were either "quad-core" or "qwerty" for the "Q". I'm going to officially throw out the possibility that the "Q" just stands for Qualcomm!...LOL...I think that makes the most logical sense because it'll be one of the 1st Motorola devices with the Qualcomm S4 (I only say 1 of the first because I think the Atrix 3 will be released before the MoPhoQ).
Yup, it most definitely is 4x A9 Cortex cores. I wouldn't say "out-dated" but yeah it is fast approaching the end of its hegemony what with the S4 out and A15 due soon.
It's going to be hard to judge how the quad A9 Exynos will compare to the dual S4 in day-to-day activities from just benchmarks, because as you allude to, the true gains from the Exynos will come where applications are heavily threaded (and the benchmarks that show the biggest gains will fit that bill). However in single and lightly threaded applications/processes, the fact that each S4 core is notably stronger than any individual A9 core is important. Here Anandtech runs several benches comparing the S4 (unfortunately not in a consumer production phone) against the Tegra 3 in the Transformer Prime and in the bottom table, it's clear that in some of the processes, the quad core carries an advantage, but in others, the quad core is about equal to the current generation dual cores found in the Galaxy and Rezound.
Yup. Rumor mill working over time.
What constitutes the "best" screen has never been settled; I don't believe there was a time where anything more than a handful of the different display variables were held constant, so choosing any one screen technology was always a matter of what tradeoffs you were willing to make. The different dimensions include: glare, outdoor visibility, power consumption under different scenarios, resolution, pixel density, subpixel arrangement, contrast, color accuracy, saturation, overall brightness, off-center viewing angles, and black levels (maybe more).
Each iteration of the technology, whether some LCD or OLED, keeps moving the ball forward, but in different ways. Like you say, if you wanted AMOLED before, you would have to settle with an 800x480 resolution device, and for some of us, finer pixel density and higher resolution were vastly more important than contrast and off viewing angles.
720p AMOLED will be competitive with the 720p LCD displays from a pixel density and resolution perspective, but no one knows if the subpixel arrangement will be RGB or Pentile. The Galaxy Nexus has a known 720p Pentile AMOLED display, and that carries with it compromises in terms of color accuracy, moire patterns, etc. -- which some human eyes are more sensitive to than others. On the other hand, LCDs have been improving their off-angle viewing and contrast, particularly with new display technologies and optical lamination... so it's ultimately a constant battle with no clear winner. If we were able to hold even a few things constant -- like resolution, pixel density, and subpixel arrangement, we could have a more serious discussion about which display technology was better...
I'm running an Evo 3D right now, video playback compatibility is no longer a manufacturer issue, but a software one. With DicePlayer, there hasn't been a video format my Evo 3D could not play, without conversion.
NYCHitman1
Gun for Hire
My thing has always been about natural colors. The SAMOLED displays are definitely lacking in that department. While we have not seen the new display that Samsung has up their sleeves, I'll relate it to the current gen displays, which are full of over-saturated (and pixelated) colors/images. Surely it was an upgrade over last gen LCD's, but whatever it is they plan on releasing - it better be on par with what SLCD2 brings to the table. That's the gist of what I was getting at.
As for the file compatibility, that guy clearly has never used any of the apps that have extra codec support built in.
Its funny you said that I know about 6 (as well as myself) people who have had horrible experiences with their customer service. ALL TV's were only several months old and it took weeks in some cases just to get an appointment. My boss had me handle his 65" which had issues and I must say I have my way with people and I felt like I was speaking a differant language dealing with Samsung! I spent over 400 bucks on a 22" LED plus the extedned warranty and this POS gave me issues twice before it was a year old! I could have purchased a delphi from best buy for 149.99
I was going to purchase the GS2 but cause of the issues with the TV's I backed off......I dont care if the GS3 has 3g processor I will wait for the LTE
It doesn't matter if it was android or not, the voice quality was awful and it lacked support, something I've read over and over about samsung releases since then as well. I'm not comparing operating systems.
suprmallet
Android Enthusiast
Wasn't the Photon a world phone, or am I thinking of another one? Between Motorola's build quality, support, and world phone capabilities, a new Photon would be the only thing I would consider other than the LTEvo.
I've had too many bad experiences with Samsung hardware to consider them anymore. I don't care what the specs are.
I've had too many bad experiences with Samsung hardware to consider them anymore. I don't care what the specs are.
Sauske
Android Enthusiast
I know a lot of my friends who have had the same issue as you with Samsung!
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
Yup. Photon is a world phone. Part of the reason I am planning on keeping it instead of selling.
Rather than have multiple SGS3/LTEvo threads, I've moved today's posts to -
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g-lte/542768-compare-contrast-opinions-gsiii-vs-evo-4g-lte.html
And closed this earlier "official" thread - too many changes since the early speculation, now we know, now the fun begins!
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g-lte/542768-compare-contrast-opinions-gsiii-vs-evo-4g-lte.html
And closed this earlier "official" thread - too many changes since the early speculation, now we know, now the fun begins!
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