Root From the DroidMod Team

[craigrn16]

Hey, I would recommend trying out Cyanogen's ROM, A.K.A, Koush's...Download ROM manager in the market and it flashes his recovery image for you, then downloades his latest ROM, and does everything you'd ever need. Just like DroidMod except, 10x better. If not more lol. Just a recommendation bud If not, enjoy DroidMod, I'm just doing some advertising for Koush, his ROM is awesome and he has the same set up as DroidMod, except no Drama and it's great! (even though I don't need the set up...) but its always convienent! Just was offering a suggestion!

Really never knew about that. I'll look into it! Thanks

 

[craigrn16]

I downloaded CMupdater. It says no Roms found? Am I not getting something?

 

[UBRocked]

I downloaded CMupdater. It says no Roms found? Am I not getting something?

Well I'm glad you didn't find a rom and try and flash it. CMUpdater is for the G1. ROM Manager is what you need

 

[OZFive]

I work in a small IT dept, we all have Moto Droids and are all running DroidMod 1.0. We are all waiting for 2.0 patiently and think that they are doing a fine job. Thank you DroidMod team for all your hard work and efforts, it is appreciated.

 

[EAK128]

I'm just happy I got good options out there to choose from and they keep getting better.

 

[Groid]

I was also a little put off by the Droidmod rant. But in fairness I rooted with Droidmod and have had not one single problem. I'm overclocked to a max 800, great battery life, 5 screens, landscape home page, used Root Explorer to eliminate camera sounds, etc. Not One Single Problem. I read 50 or 100 pages of problems with other roms and wonder why so many people have problems compared to the relatively few reported for Droidmod. I have little or no interest in themes, custom icons, or the other irrelevant cosmetic tweaks that seem to cause so many problems with other roms. I want stable, fast, and useful, which is what I get with Droidmod.

 

[UBRocked]

I was also a little put off by the Droidmod rant. But in fairness I rooted with Droidmod and have had not one single problem. I'm overclocked to a max 800, great battery life, 5 screens, landscape home page, used Root Explorer to eliminate camera sounds, etc. Not One Single Problem. I read 50 or 100 pages of problems with other roms and wonder why so many people have problems compared to the relatively few reported for Droidmod. I have little or no interest in themes, custom icons, or the other irrelevant cosmetic tweaks that seem to cause so many problems with other roms. I want stable, fast, and useful, which is what I get with Droidmod.

I think most everyone will agree that DM Updater is a great app, despite the ROM or the drama. I use it to flash between recoveries (SPRecovery and Clockwork) and it makes it simple and quick. It's just that most people (I'm just guessing here) don't what to hear the BS.

***Sidenote...I would argue that rooting with an app without ACTUALLY understanding what is happening is not good. People need to get familiar with simple adb commands, recovery, mounting partitions, etc. *IF* they plan to do anything outside of DroidMod. It will save themselves a lot of confusion and problems later***

 

[snake_fist_gung_fu]

I think most everyone will agree that DM Updater is a great app, despite the ROM or the drama. I use it to flash between recoveries (SPRecovery and Clockwork) and it makes it simple and quick. It's just that most people (I'm just guessing here) don't what to hear the BS.

***Sidenote...I would argue that rooting with an app without ACTUALLY understanding what is happening is not good. People need to get familiar with simple adb commands, recovery, mounting partitions, etc. *IF* they plan to do anything outside of DroidMod. It will save themselves a lot of confusion and problems later***

No doubt its good software the problem is the team. It just seems there always on the edge of there next pms outburst.

 

[slick_old]

I was also a little put off by the Droidmod rant. But in fairness I rooted with Droidmod and have had not one single problem. I'm overclocked to a max 800, great battery life, 5 screens, landscape home page, used Root Explorer to eliminate camera sounds, etc. Not One Single Problem. I read 50 or 100 pages of problems with other roms and wonder why so many people have problems compared to the relatively few reported for Droidmod. I have little or no interest in themes, custom icons, or the other irrelevant cosmetic tweaks that seem to cause so many problems with other roms. I want stable, fast, and useful, which is what I get with Droidmod.

Eh, I've flashed Sholesmod/Droidmod ROMs before and currently I'm on Pete's ESE53 BB, which is just as stable as my stock 2.0.1 Droid was. I haven't had any problems with it at all, even with custom themes and other "cosmetic tweaks" (I mean literally NOT ONE FC, bug, or random reboot). Plus, I can tell you that the ESE53 ROMs I've flashed are far better than 2.0.1-based ROMs that I've had in the past (in terms of things like battery life, browser smoothness, multi-touch smoothness, etc). I'm not trying to convince you to switch away from Droidmod...I'm just saying that there are many stable ROMs other than Droidmod and many of them have more features (and I'm not just talking about "cosmetic tweaks").

 

[jestexman]

I use DM as a fail safe back up. If i screw something up and i dont know what i did. I know i can pull up old trusty and everything will be like it was. My .02 cents is worth a .01.

 

[stedrocklp]

I'm not sure if DroidMod is helping their case or hurting it. I also rooted using DMupdater and am glad I did and for that I am thankful. But once I really understood rooting I wanted to see if the grass was greener on the other side. Fortunatley for me and unfortunately for them it was not only greener but taller aswell. I would certainly try there latest but as for it being the only stable rom out there this is far from true. Its starting to feel like a soap opera with all the bantering between developers. Give use the best rom and we are all yours. As for their "high moral standards" that has absolutely no effect on wether I choose a rom or not. Keep up the good work devs.

 

[Groid]

Hey Slick,

I appreciate your comments on Pete's ESE53 BB and I am very curious about it because I want to understand the whole rooting, custom rom, themes, kernal management. Pete seems to be getting a lot of the community mindset. I'm also very happy to hear you are rock solid with your system, unlike so many who probably contributed to their own problems . That said, I have terrific performance and battery life, multitouch in browsing, gallery, and maps, wifi tethering, and rock solid stability. What do I really get with the ESE53 rom besides the eye candy?

 

[Droid_Ninja]

I first ROOTED with sholes SMUdater, and was working great! Then the drama, so I tried the DMUpdater... Nothing worked and it was stuck on the Droidmod Bootup screen. Tried asking for help from the Devs, but no responce. I guess they were still too busy dealing with there drama. Because of this team, I will never try rooting again. I will just wait for the 2.1 update. Thanks Sholes and DroidMod !

 

[slick_old]

Hey Slick,

I appreciate your comments on Pete's ESE53 BB and I am very curious about it because I want to understand the whole rooting, custom rom, themes, kernal management. Pete seems to be getting a lot of the community mindset. I'm also very happy to hear you are rock solid with your system, unlike so many who probably contributed to their own problems . That said, I have terrific performance and battery life, multitouch in browsing, gallery, and maps, wifi tethering, and rock solid stability. What do I really get with the ESE53 rom besides the eye candy?

For me, the ESE53-based ROMs feel like a better "fit" for the phone, if that makes any sense. More than likely, that's because the ESE53 is essentially the official file that we are supposed to receive via the 2.1 update (it was leaked by a Motorola employee, I believe). As a result, the ROMs based off of it are super smooth and you don't even feel like you're running a ROM. You feel like you're running a stock Droid instead of a 2.0.1 based ROM that was rigged and forced to run LWP (for example). The ESE53 has been optimized for and was totally intented to run LWP, and thus it does so effortlessly. But LWP is just one example among many. Battery life is better. The browsing is WAY better than the Milestone-based browser in 2.0.1 ROMS (the anti-aliasing is perfect, the pinch to zoom is smooth with no glitchiness, it scrolls like butter, pages load fast). The 2.1 gallery doesn't lag or stutter.

And, these are just a few of the things I've noticed without even being OC'ed. I've been running Pete's last few ESE53 iterations for weeks and I haven't oven OC'ed yet and have yet to have any FC issue or lag (may install a kernel tonight or tommorrow b/c I need WiFi tether). Yes, you will have to install your own kernel to get OC and WiFi (DroidMod does this for you), but it's easy peezy. Sure, as developers add more and more stuff to their ROMs, there's the chance that bugs will be introduced. But I can tell you that Pete's ESE53 v0.8 is as "bugless" as you're going to get out of a ROM. Like I said, I haven't had ANY bugs and it doesn't even feel like I'm using a ROM. But there are other great ROMs out there that are just as bug free and just as awesome (Chevy's, Blackdroid's, etc).

Cyanogen's/Koush's ROM and Pete's v0.9 BB have reached the point where they are basically the same as having FULL 2.1 on your Droid (3D app drawer and all). And, actually, they are better than full 2.1 in certain ways. For example, Pete's 0.9 BB allows you to enable a lot of awesome scripts. For example, there is one script that allows you to save a huge chunk of internal memory. Both of those ROMs have some minor bugs at the moment and I'd wait for those to be ironed out before flashing them (they are both very new ROMs). For the moment, I'd say go with Pete's ESE53 v0.8 because it, at this point, it has been thoroughly vetted and is as stable as you can get. Wait for those bugs to get rooted (no pun) out, and then hop on to BB v0.9 or Koush's or whatever other ROM you see out there that seems to stable enough for you.

Don't get me wrong, Droidmod is an unbelievably cool tool (like someone else said, it's good to keep Droidmod for unrooting or flashing between recoveries) and a great ROM, but there are other options.

And yet, even after typing all of that, I'd suggest you stick with Droidmod if you're happy with it. Afterall, if it aint broke, don't fix it.

 

[radikal]

haha really ninja? there is an easy do it yourself way to do this? i respect your decision, just letting you know options

 

[Droid_Ninja]

Ya really, I was very pleased and impressed with the product I purchased from the Sholes team, ya of course there was a few FC's here and there, but I was confident in the teams abilities to fix the glitches! Then after that, everything went to crap. Now I am not a person knows how to do all the rooting stuff, that's why I went to Sholes, but if you are a company who boasts that your product will be a "All in one Package" ( Not exact words, but along those lines ) Then that company is obligated to live up to all the hype. But after they decided to bring there stupid immature and unprofessional disagreement, up to the surface. The "Team Cohesion" and along with there product, went down the drain, so to speak... This worried me, because now how am I ( The customer ) going to stay up to date and have my hopes of having the glitches fixed, if the company went down hill? What? There is a DMUpdater you say? I have tried that and the product they say will supersede the Sholes product, has failed in my case. I tried Customer Service , but to no prevail. So because of this horrible experience, I have "un-rooted" my phone and have decided to let a real company provide me with a product that will work. Despite all the delays, just lets me know that they care about there product and there reputation.

haha really ninja? there is an easy do it yourself way to do this? i respect your decision, just letting you know options

 

[UBRocked]

Ya really, I was very pleased and impressed with the product I purchased from the Sholes team, ya of course there was a few FC's here and there, but I was confident in the teams abilities to fix the glitches! Then after that, everything went to crap. Now I am not a person knows how to do all the rooting stuff, that's why I went to Sholes, but if you are a company who boasts that your product will be a "All in one Package" ( Not exact words, but along those lines ) Then that company is obligated to live up to all the hype. But after they decided to bring there stupid immature and unprofessional disagreement, up to the surface. The "Team Cohesion" and along with there product, went down the drain, so to speak... This worried me, because now how am I ( The customer ) going to stay up to date and have my hopes of having the glitches fixed, if the company went down hill? What? There is a DMUpdater you say? I have tried that and the product they say will supersede the Sholes product, has failed in my case. I tried Customer Service , but to no prevail. So because of this horrible experience, I have "un-rooted" my phone and have decided to let a real company provide me with a product that will work. Despite all the delays, just lets me know that they care about there product and there reputation.

Couple of points:

You are not the customer here. You "purchased" something that was available to you for free on their website, but at a charge in the market. You basically "donated" to them. The difference is that they have no real obligation to you. Luckily, there is an entire community here that is willing to help you with any problems you have. If you're expecting good customer service from any dev...not gonna happen. It's just not their job, and that is how "open source" developing works. They develop, we report what works, what doesn't work and maybe...hopefully, the dev fixes the problems in future releases. In the meantime, we find fixes, workarounds, or better alternatives that we share within the android community.

If you are turned off by rooting now and want to wait for the 2.1 update...cool. Just understand that what Radikal was saying was that you DO have other options. If you need or want help to explore those options, that is not an issue There are many different workarounds and fixes to the problems that you are having...and be sure...there are many BETTER alternatives as well. OTA 2.1 or DroidMod are not your only options. There are issues that have been addressed to Motorola/Verizon and look how long it has taken to get some of those addressed...and it STILL isn't here. When you unroot and apply the official update...I hope that you are satisfied with it cause you may be left with a lot of waiting...

Again, I'm not telling you what you should do. Do what you are comfortable with. But don't group "all rooting has to offer" and "DroidMod" together as one and the same...thankfully their not!

 

[Needsdecaf]

Couple of points:

You are not the customer here. You "purchased" something that was available to you for free on their website, but at a charge in the market. You basically "donated" to them. The difference is that they have no real obligation to you. Luckily, there is an entire community here that is willing to help you with any problems you have. If you're expecting good customer service from any dev...not gonna happen. It's just not their job, and that is how "open source" developing works. They develop, we report what works, what doesn't work and maybe...hopefully, the dev fixes the problems in future releases. In the meantime, we find fixes, workarounds, or better alternatives that we share within the android community.

This is why I thought that the whole "push to root" thing was a bad idea in the first place. Not because I didn't like it (I ran it, and loved the convenience), or because I didn't want people to root (there are always helpful people willing to teach) but because of this type of attitude shift.

The custom ROM (and really the Android experience as a whole) is about experimentation and open source, unproven apps. If you want proven stability, get an iPhone. Of course, be prepared to pay for them and wait 4 months for an app to go from concept to market. You're not going to get slick packaging, customer service that's at your beck and call, etc. The tradeoff is, that there's oodles of info on this and other boards, and app updates happen at lightning speed.

It's why I told my dad not to get an Android phone. The level of attention and monkeying around would blow his mind. He could never accept all the tinkering and monitoring.

 

[jevfr]

It's why I told my dad not to get an Android phone. The level of attention and monkeying around would blow his mind. He could never accept all the tinkering and monitoring.

That's fine if you're talking about rooting and customizing, but I'm pretty sure your dad could handle it otherwise. I'm sure he's probably a lot more savvy than you give him credit for.

 

[Needsdecaf]

That's fine if you're talking about rooting and customizing, but I'm pretty sure your dad could handle it otherwise. I'm sure he's probably a lot more savvy than you give him credit for.

Trust me, he's not.

I should compile a list of "help desk" calls that he's made to me and send those to you.

 

[vincentp]

I never actually tried Droidmod, Sholes, or their updater to be honest. Never really wanted to since there were so many other options available and back when 2.0.1 ROMs were all the rage, I was a Pete fan.

Anyways, with all that I've seen from these guys and their rants, I really don't have any interest in trying their ROMs. It seems like - regardless of what is actually going on - they are just trying to stir up controversy or drama where there needs to be none, and that crap drives me crazy.

 

[ocean1]

I think DM is dead they are far behind now. They just sit around and complain. Shame i loved the sholes and all the updates. Now its going to be playing catch up.

 

[Shadowtech]

I personally never touched the Sholes/DM stuff, mainly because I just played with Pete/Chevy's stuff from the get go. However at this point I don't think I ever will in the future either. These guys are just so full of themselves I don't wanna go anywhere near em.

Saying how ERE53 is "illegal" and they won't touch it because of that is just plain stupid. That is the ROM that most people want, and all they are accomplishing at this point is making sure their name fades into nothingness. When the official 2.1 comes out and these guys actually step back in the game.. Pete, Chevy, Adamz, and Blackdroid will all have their respective following eager to update their already stable ESE53 rom to an "official" one that will be practically the same thing. They don't want to "taint" their reputation by adding "warez", but they'll definitely tarnish it with all the drama.

I'm sticking to Chevy's roms personally. Not only does he make great kernels, but he can also build his roms around them. Simply Stunning 2.0.x series has been extremely reliable, and if problems do arise he is extremely helpful and quick to a solution. He has made quite a few useful tools to make certain tasks much easier for regular users, and he doesn't have an I'm-better-than-you attitude at all.

Sholes/DM put out a tool useful for a lot of people and cashed in on it. They should just stop talking, soak it all in, and try to make an appearance once a "legit" update comes out. Noone really cares about them changing each and every aspect of their website, adding links, blah blah. We just want ROMs and support for them, and we'll get them whereever we can. I highly doubt their next "big" release will really be any different than the other chefs out there anyway.