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galaxy nexus to rezound people!
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pragmatous
Android Enthusiast
I am too one of those people. I returned the nexus and got the rezound. I'm very happy with the rezound. The galaxy nexus is just pure garbage. The display is just crap. I don't get how people think that it's a great display. You have to crank the brightness to 50% for the illusion that it's a great display. The speaker is a joke. The phone can slip right out of your hand there's no grip at all. The camera? .. Ya done exchanging it lol.
I think lots of people are in denial too.
Anyway I'm really enjoying my new phone!
I think lots of people are in denial too.
Anyway I'm really enjoying my new phone!
pragmatous
Android Enthusiast
lol i thought it was a bug too and then I took a second look. 
I don't have a vermin issue but I did have to kill a spider earlier.
I don't have a vermin issue but I did have to kill a spider earlier.You can tell who has a vermin issue in their house......
TheXFactor
Android Enthusiast
I was this close to returning the rezound for the nexus when it first came out. I am glad I waited and read this forum.
BlueBiker
Android Expert
Glad to hear! It's a huuuuuuge step up from your OG Droid (it was from mine), and I hope you'll let us know your impressions.Since the Nexus came out I have been going back and forth between it and the Razr. I then started looking at the Rezound and after reading more about it I am getting one this saturday
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budmonster
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quick question about the signal issues between rezound and gnex. is it true that the nexus is reporting lte signal strength while other verizon phones (rezound) are reporting evo signal strength?
just wondering b/c i thought my gnex had slow data speed, dl and ul. i usually only had 1 bar on 4G and around -108dbm. when i got my rezound i have 3-4 bars now but im actually getting the same speeds and sometimes even lower. oh and my rezound usually shows -82dbm which is a huge difference. so im wondering if my rezound shows 3g strength while the nexus showed lte/4g strength? just curious b/c this is one of the reasons i took it back.
also, does anyone know of an update fixing the volume. saw somewhere on here stating that verzino rep told them an update would be coming to fix the problem and that verizon has stated that they know about it? to what standard of truth this is, dont know?
just wondering b/c i thought my gnex had slow data speed, dl and ul. i usually only had 1 bar on 4G and around -108dbm. when i got my rezound i have 3-4 bars now but im actually getting the same speeds and sometimes even lower. oh and my rezound usually shows -82dbm which is a huge difference. so im wondering if my rezound shows 3g strength while the nexus showed lte/4g strength? just curious b/c this is one of the reasons i took it back.
also, does anyone know of an update fixing the volume. saw somewhere on here stating that verzino rep told them an update would be coming to fix the problem and that verizon has stated that they know about it? to what standard of truth this is, dont know?
mangopositive
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I had my Rezound all boxed up and ready to return. I worked very hard making it as clean and organized as possible so I didn't have any issues exchanging it for the Galaxy Nexus. I didn't even know about the signal issues, but I played with the Nexus for about 10 minutes in the store before I walked back out with my Rezound. No regrets.
esmith818
Android Enthusiast
No. Both phones are reporting 4G reception if you have 4G enabled.
According to various sites (here and here for example), Android 4.0 indicates signal strength differently than Android 2.x. There are plans to alter how ICS reports strength to more evenly match Gingerbread handsets. Conspiracy theorists will say that this is just a means for Google/Samsung/VZW to cover up a problem with the Nexus hardware, but without having another ICS handset to compare, we can't know if there is any truth to this.
There are rumors that claim the 4.0.3 update (to come possibly in March) *may* address a volume issue, but more reliable sources claim the focus of the next update will be to fix an issue with the wake status being incorrectly set causing the battery to drain faster than it should when the phone is not in use.
In the meantime, most Nexus users (including me) have had great success with the 3rd party app, Volume+, which can override the default volume levels. Although there are more options for rooted users, the base app DOES work with non-rooted/unlocked phones too. You can either download the free version in the market (with limited options) or download the "paid" version for free form the developer's website.
Suffice it to say that despite the Rezound having excellent hardware specs, I have decided to keep the Nexus. The main problem I was having (mic dropping my voice on long calls) seems to have been fixed with a SIM card swap. Whether the camera on my Nexus is as good as the Rezound is irrelevant to me since it is much better than the phones I have owned in the past and satisfactory by my tests for a phone camera. Although the Rezound does have the unlocked bootloader now, I still like having the "developer phone" with vanilla android and a HUGE developer base. I expect the following for the Nexus to be on par with the OG Droid which should keep me happy with tinkering for many months to come.
I do NOT think the Rezound is a bad phone by any means though. I said on the Nexus forums that personally, my recommendation would be to determine one's desire for a "plain vanilla" UI and your opinion on rooting. If those two things are high on your list of phone enjoyment, the Nexus is for you despite some "possible" hardware flaws (some are reporting problems, others are not). If you don't have any desire to "tinker under the hood" and you wouldn't know Sense from MotoBlur from TouchWiz (nor care to learn) than the Rezound is an excellent choice. Personally, I'm impressed that VZW actually has two great phones available at the same time!
replica9000
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From what I've seen, the Nexus and Charge report LTE signal strength, while the other phones report CDMA signal strength. There is an app called Signal Strength Detector that will display the strength for LTE, EV-DO, CDMA etc...
Should be alble to tell you what signal is being reported under settings. The article also mentions comparing LTE signal strength to EV-DO strength is like comparing apples to oranges. I don't live in a LTE area, so my Nexus should have been reporting CDMA or EV-DO strength, which was using about 10-15 dBm worse than my Rezound.
I'm glad everyone has had luck with Volume+, when I tried it on my Nexus, it had no effect at all.
Should be alble to tell you what signal is being reported under settings. The article also mentions comparing LTE signal strength to EV-DO strength is like comparing apples to oranges. I don't live in a LTE area, so my Nexus should have been reporting CDMA or EV-DO strength, which was using about 10-15 dBm worse than my Rezound.
I'm glad everyone has had luck with Volume+, when I tried it on my Nexus, it had no effect at all.
replica9000
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I was searching for an app similar to Signal Strength that also shows LTE and entered "android lte dbm" into google search. Almost every result on the first page is about the GNex...
jkc120
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copr165
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I bought the Razr on 11/11/11 at 11:11 am when it went on sale. I carry 2 smartphones and when the Rezound came out I looked at it and really liked it. I also liked my wife's Incredible 2 but waited for the GNEX and bought it the day it came out. It had issues such as bluetooth earpiece background noise and breaking up, some apps didn't play well (and I know they will upgrade apps to work) and speakphone sucked. I bought wife a new smartphone for Christmas and she really liked her Dinc 2 so I looked at the Rezound again. I was impressed with it and told them I would take it but she uses her clip case alot and when they showed the one for Rezound it was made for the extended battery which made it very bulky and I knew she would not like that. Due to that I bought her the white Razr as I have been pleased with mine. However, last week I took GNEX back and got Rezound. Much happier and have had 0 issues with it. Like the fact that it feels more solid than the GNEX and none of the same issues. IMO I recommend the Rezound due to the fact I have used both.
leroybrute
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Exactly! I had both at the same time, the gnex for 10 days when it came out.
What bothers me is when people come on to the forums and say if you don't care to tinker or root your phone, or don't know the difference between sense, motoblur, touchwhiz get the Rezound. If you want to root and tinker get the Nexus.?
I prefer to root and tinker on something that does'nt have all the issues I had with my gnex. Guess what, we get to root and tinker on our Rezounds also without the issues!
One thing that shouldn't lie is percent time without a signal found in the battery stats. With the Nexus I got into ridiculously high numbers like 20 to 40 percent. And the dBm numbers were ugly except in strong signal areas. I'm at 0% today with the Rezound. Of course my battery went down the toilet and the phone had to go back. I live in a 4G extended area and what I described happened in CDMA mode. The Nexus has a substandard radio IMO.
esmith818
Android Enthusiast
You thinking of anyone in particular? I thought my post was very nice as someone who was seriously considering the Rezound but had second thoughts. I am glad that you like your Rezound as much as I like my Nexus. Perhaps someone else trying to decide between the two might like to hear BOTH sides of the story. Gimme a break.
leroybrute
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Well you are probably right about calling me names since I don't know the difference between sense, motoblur, touchwiz and I don't want to root and tinker with my phone which is rooted, I got a Rezound. Your last paragraph is poor opinion with little to no fact for comparison. The rest was great.
esmith818
Android Enthusiast
Let me rephrase then:
"Someone who likes to tinker and/or prefers a vanilla UI should consider the Nexus (and by that I mean choose between both). If those things don't matter, the Rezound is a better phone."
That's about as pro-Rezound as I can be while still stating that I prefer the Nexus. I still hold that the tinkering aspect of the Nexus is better as we get source from Google, don't have S-ON, and can use pure AOSP ROMs. If Rezound has the overall better hardware specs, I would argue that the Nexus has better software options. But perhaps that's all arguable?
Also, I updated my previous post now that I've had time to de-stress after work. No need for me to be a douche.
"Someone who likes to tinker and/or prefers a vanilla UI should consider the Nexus (and by that I mean choose between both). If those things don't matter, the Rezound is a better phone."
That's about as pro-Rezound as I can be while still stating that I prefer the Nexus. I still hold that the tinkering aspect of the Nexus is better as we get source from Google, don't have S-ON, and can use pure AOSP ROMs. If Rezound has the overall better hardware specs, I would argue that the Nexus has better software options. But perhaps that's all arguable?
Also, I updated my previous post now that I've had time to de-stress after work. No need for me to be a douche.
leroybrute
Well-Known Member
Let me rephrase then:
"Someone who likes to tinker and/or prefers a vanilla UI should consider the Nexus (and by that I mean choose between both). If those things don't matter, the Rezound is a better phone."
That's about as pro-Rezound as I can be while still stating that I prefer the Nexus. I still hold that the tinkering aspect of the Nexus is better as we get source from Google, don't have S-ON, and can use pure AOSP ROMs. If Rezound has the overall better hardware specs, I would argue that the Nexus has better software options. But perhaps that's all arguable?
Also, I updated my previous post now that I've had time to de-stress after work. No need for me to be a douche.
Yay for you.
They (verizon instore reps) say you can only do one return.... dont believe them what you need to do is call verizon customer service explain to them what you want to do then HAVE THEM NOTATE your account with that conversation stating that they approve of your return/exchange and then run into the store and they should cooperate... they might give you some hassle but ive done this several times and always seem to get my way(bought the rezound on november 16th exchanged it they day the nexus came out then echanged back to the rezound january 7th...). You just cant let the instore reps give you crap.
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TxGoat
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I'll do my best to "attack the issue" not the poster... The whole, "Pure Google Experience" and "Those who like Vanilla Android" is a big pile of poo. Most people that want "Vanilla" will more than likely throw on someone else's rom which is hardly "Vanilla". With HTC allowing you to unlock the bootloader, that makes that claim rather irrelevant. Personally, I think it's just human nature. Some are trying to justify their purchase and fabricating advantages such as this to justify their purchase (cognitive dissonance).
As someone that owns a Rezound, it's nice to see owners of the competitor try to reach for reasons that the Nexus is a better phone. I'll take my non-Vanilla with some sprinkles of better signal, topped with a better GPS signal on top.
The whole, "Pure Google Experience" and "Those who like Vanilla Android" is a big pile of poo. Most people that want "Vanilla" will more than likely throw on someone else's rom which is hardly "Vanilla". With HTC allowing you to unlock the bootloader, that makes that claim rather irrelevant. Personally, I think it's just human nature. Some are trying to justify their purchase and fabricating advantages such as this to justify their purchase (cognitive dissonance). As someone that owns a Rezound, it's nice to see owners of the competitor try to reach for reasons that the Nexus is a better phone. I'll take my non-Vanilla with some sprinkles of better signal, topped with a better GPS signal on top.
mustardtiger
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While the explanation has been given here in this thread, as well as countless others for a few weeks, I just wanted to chime in and say that I find it curious that anyone cares what the signal strength says anyway.
No matter what the reading or how you interpret it, if the phone can't connect to the data network or make calls reliably, that's a problem, bottom line. (As it was on both Nexuses I briefly owned.)
Not sure if anyone else has noticed but it seems to me as I follow the various Nexus forums that while the issues are being largely accepted and/or worked around, anyone that asks a question about signal strength- presumably because they are having the same problems many of us experienced- they are provided the now standard issue response about how LTE phones report LTE numbers and 3G phones report EVDO numbers.
While accurate, how is this information in and of itself supposed to account for why the phone can't make calls reliably or hold a data connection? It doesn't of course, I just think the core issue remains very much unverified and the discussion is getting really muddied. Hardware? Authentication protocols? Who knows at this point.
Explaining the differences in how signal strength is reported doesn't address the core issue users have reported, but it seems to be getting huge play on the various boards.
If and when the Nexus connection issues get resolved I would like to get another...but until then, I can't afford the luxury of a "developer" phone that doesn't seem to be able to work all that well as a well, *phone*.
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TxGoat
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I'm going to say it's hardware related. If you ask anyone that bought an HTC Thunderbolt when they first came out (like myself), you'll see the EXACT SAME scenario playing out.
Thunderbolt release
- First time adopters reporting poor battery life, poor signal strength, poor GPS locking
- Verizon promising OTA update to resolve GPS lock issue.
- OTA update doesn't necessarily fix GPS lock, but the lock is at least more consistent (doesn't report you're in NY when you're in TX for instance--me).
- Verizon promises a 2nd OTA fix to resolve poor battery life.
- OTA "fix" doesn't appear to resolve battery life even though some people swear that it worked for them.
- Another OTA attempt made to resolve signal issues and battery life.
- OTA update "fixes" signal by locking onto 3G more consistently in areas where 4G signal is not great. This "fix" also helps with battery life as people report the phone hunts less for weak signals.
Nexus release
- Poor battery life and signal connectivity reported by some Nexus owners.
- OTA update promised by Verizon to "fix" reported battery and signal issues.
- .....Deja Vu....all over again.
The "fix" for the Thunderbolt via OTA update didn't give you a larger antenna for improved signal strength nor did it give you a larger battery. It gave the illusion of improved battery life by adjusting how the phone sought out the weak signal. When I downloaded the OTA, instead of the phone searching for 4G in certain areas for countless hours, it would just consistently remain in 3G. That's not exactly a "fix" in my opinion.
I must admit, I feel a little bad for the Nexus crowd because like the Nexus, the Thunderbolt was a solid phone. It was the flagship phone of Verizon at the time but just didn't have the hardware to pull that feat off and as an owner, it left me a little dissatisfied. Sure I had the fastest phone with the best specs on paper, but the real world experience just left me frustrated. And lets face it, you can have a phone with 10x better specs than it's leading competitor, but if it doesn't perform in the categories that matter then you've spent all your hard earned money on a hand trinket.
I'll do my best to "attack the issue" not the poster...
T h a n k y o u......
I have felt this way for the past year, never really spoke on it. All I would say is that I actually liked custom UI's and I thought stock Android was too plain, boring.
When the Droid 1 was the hot dev phone on Verizon, how many ROMs or 3rd party launchers or home screen apps do you think many of us went thru? lol. Lock screen apps too. Froyo came to the Droid 1, whats the first thing most of us did? Put on a 3rd party launcher....cuz it was faster, smoother than the stock one.
I went thru a couple of dialer apps for my Droid 1. After going to the DX1 and RAZR, I have no need for dialer apps, Moto gave me T9 dialing with Blur....something that HTC had on their Sense UI phones for awhile.
One G Nex ROM I saw I noticed it had T9 dialing...thats not vanilla ICS....toggles in the pull down shade....thats Touchwiz....
And yet custom UI's get no love from stock Android lovers...I say give credit where credit is due.
Saying you want vanilla Android for the hopes of faster updates? Fine. But to try to put it on a pedestal over custom UI's when most folks that have a vanilla Android phone wont even run it vanilla? And most will get ROMs that have traces of stuff from custom UI's and 3rd party apps? And load up 3rd party lock screen, launcher, etc apps on it that change the look? Thats kinda hypocritical...
As someone that owns a Rezound, it's nice to see owners of the competitor try to reach for reasons that the Nexus is a better phone. I'll take my non-Vanilla with some sprinkles of better signal, topped with a better GPS signal on top.
Exactly.... I as a RAZR owner feel the same way. I was testing out a G Nex since 1-5, just to see some things. It did surprise me in some areas...but its going back tomorrow...and next up is the Rezound.
G Nex isnt a bad phone, ICS isnt bad too. There are some things I dont like about both tho.
Wow... I flashed the 4.0.3 radios for the G Nex to see something...and it did make 3G better, but did nothing for 4G... interesting observation.
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TxGoat
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That was the one thing that I found most disappointing as a Thunderbolt owner, I was really hoping that the OTA updates would fix what plagued the Thunderbolt, but the reality is that a software update can't fix a hardware issue. It only masked and changed how the phone dealt with signal interpretation. The Thunderbolt deserved to be more and I think if the Thunderbolt was what the Rezound is, I wouldn't be speaking about my Thunderbolt in past tense.
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