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Help Getting a replacement

guttyla

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I'm getting a replacement in hopes of getting more reliable data connections. I'm looking for tips on ease of transition from one phone to another. I use launcher pro, so I hope my customized screens will restore (this is my biggest worry as that it time consuming). Otherwise, apps and email should all seamlessly transition since I use gmail.
Any tips would be appreciated to make it smooth.
Thanks...
 
I used to run Launcher Pro and as I recall there's an option to backup your home screens to your SD card. It won't backup widgets however due to limitations of Android (unless that's been changed). All your folders, shortcuts, custom icons, etc. should save though. You would want to copy the backup folder from your SD card to your PC, then copy it to the new Bionic's SD card. At that point you should be able to install Launcher Pro and restore the backup to get you home screens back (minus widgets as noted).

Google will back up all of your contacts and downloaded apps in the cloud. You will lose app data however, such as progress on games, unless you are rooted in which case you could back up the app data with Titanium Backup.
 
If you want access to old SMS messages, there is a third-party app called SMS Backup+ that backs up sent and received text and MMS messages (as you send and receive them) to a label in your GMail account - they can also be set to be marked read automatically. The app does allow you to restore from GMail as well, though the Moto phones have the curious issue that the date and time stamp comes in as the time you are restoring rather than the time that the SMS messages was sent (and it cannot restore MMS messages.) However, the messages remain in GMail for searching, if you wish. It can also back up call logs (and put the call entry into a Google Calendar if you wish), if that's also important.
 
are you rooted? if so, I would make a backup using Titanium and restore it on the new phone. it will take a few minutes depending on the number of apps you have, but other than that, it should be pretty smooth.
 
I'm getting a replacement in hopes of getting more reliable data connections. I'm looking for tips on ease of transition from one phone to another. I use launcher pro, so I hope my customized screens will restore (this is my biggest worry as that it time consuming). Otherwise, apps and email should all seamlessly transition since I use gmail.
Any tips would be appreciated to make it smooth.
Thanks...
I hope your luck is better than mine. I've had 3 BIonics, all of which drop 4G. Verizon offered me a fourth one, but I cancelled this morning, as I'm tired of wasting time setting up a new (well, refurb) phone. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that early reports from some users of the leaked ICS, that data connections will be better once I get the official ICS...
 
If you really want to fix the dropped data problems I would install the ics leak, I honestly never drop data anymore. I was having the same problems with the constant data dropping on 905 in hopes that the ics leak would solve the problem and it did. The installation is pretty simple, you just have to learn how to fxz back to 902 when the official ics is released.
 
are you rooted? if so, I would make a backup using Titanium and restore it on the new phone. it will take a few minutes depending on the number of apps you have, but other than that, it should be pretty smooth.


Not rooted
 
I hope your luck is better than mine. I've had 3 BIonics, all of which drop 4G. Verizon offered me a fourth one, but I cancelled this morning, as I'm tired of wasting time setting up a new (well, refurb) phone. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that early reports from some users of the leaked ICS, that data connections will be better once I get the official ICS...


I'm hoping to get lucky because my thought is i'm getting someones returned bionic that had issues. I'm not going to return mine for the full 5 days to see if I can see if the new one is any better
 
X2 on the ICS leaks. I to was dropping data alot until i installed the leak.

Rooted Bionic with ICS is where its at
 
I hope your luck is better than mine. I've had 3 BIonics, all of which drop 4G. Verizon offered me a fourth one, but I cancelled this morning, as I'm tired of wasting time setting up a new (well, refurb) phone. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that early reports from some users of the leaked ICS, that data connections will be better once I get the official ICS...







If you really want to fix the dropped data problems I would install the ics leak, I honestly never drop data anymore. I was having the same problems with the constant data dropping on 905 in hopes that the ics leak would solve the problem and it did. The installation is pretty simple, you just have to learn how to fxz back to 902 when the official ics is released.


I'm hoping to get lucky because my thought is i'm getting someones returned bionic that had issues. I'm not going to return mine for the full 5 days to see if I can see if the new one is any better


X2 on the ICS leaks. I to was dropping data alot until i installed the leak.

Rooted Bionic with ICS is where its at

Agreed. The ICS leaks are a godsend for data drops.
 
They are still replacing Bionics with Bionics? I have heard of others getting the Razr or another upgraded/newer phone. I'm having issues with mine but was waiting for ICS or at least for the Bionic to have it's supply exhausted. I love the Bionic but I think that it was a rushed phone that started out with good intentions. I hope that ICS is the fix all that it seems to be.
 
Well, the manufacturer's 1 year warranty is still in effect for every BIONIC purchaser - the first day they were available to the public was Sept. 8, 2011. So, yeah, I suppose they are still replacing BIONICs for BIONICs using normal warranty procedure.

Extended / superseding warranty companies like Asurion may be replacing with other phones....
 
For those who are worried about data drops and refurbs, I think I can at least explain in laymen's terms why this occurs. Now, I'm not the most technical guy you're going to come across, especially here on this site. But it was explained before.

Back on our OG Droids, there was so much ROM development, it was insane. We'll probably never see the plethora of availability we had in those days. One of the things that always confused those of us who our enjoying the fruits of others labors (which reminds me, always donate to your fav devs!) was that some ROMs worked great for some, and terrible for others. It depended on build, kernel, theme, whatever. But why did it work for you and not me?

When they mass produce these chipsets, they're stamping them out of much larger circuit boards, circuits going this way, that way, and what not. This causes no two phones to be exactly the same. And certain software hiccups when talking to hardware.

Ok, so you bought a phone, but it's hiccuping. So you send it back and they send you a new one. How many people did that exact same thing? Probably a lot. More than half the phones that go back to the manufacturer, I'm willing to bet. So when they send you back a refurb, the likelihood that it was sent back for the same exact reason you sent yours in is pretty hide. Thing is, it has the exact same software as the one you sent in. As long as that same software is on there, it'll never work right.

That's why I'd recommend rooting your phone, and flash diff software. It can make a world of diff. And I hope this helps your understanding, it certainly did me when I was told by people who could explain it better than I ever could.
 
That's why I'd recommend rooting your phone, and flash diff software. It can make a world of diff. And I hope this helps your understanding, it certainly did me when I was told by people who could explain it better than I ever could.

There are Pros and Cons to root-ing and they should be evaluated closely before jumping. You are assuming responsibility for what happens to your Bionic. Be prepared. Something is guaranteed to go wrong and you will need to fix it. Always have a recovery path laid out before trying anything.

I think a large number of Bionics were returned that suffered from software bugs that were corrected in later releases. The refurb is tested, cleaned up, and the latest system software is installed.

The reports we hear from people in this forum who are playing with ICS and getting much less data drops is very encouraging. They are not replacing their Bionic. The software is apparently improving on their old Bionic.

... Thom
 
There are Pros and Cons to root-ing and they should be evaluated closely before jumping. You are assuming responsibility for what happens to your Bionic. Be prepared. Something is guaranteed to go wrong and you will need to fix it. Always have a recovery path laid out before trying anything.

I think a large number of Bionics were returned that suffered from software bugs that were corrected in later releases. The refurb is tested, cleaned up, and the latest system software is installed.

The reports we hear from people in this forum who are playing with ICS and getting much less data drops is very encouraging. They are not replacing their Bionic. The software is apparently improving on their old Bionic.

... Thom

By rooting you have a much better recovery path than not rooting, though. With rooted phones, you can make Nandroid backups, which include /system /data & /cache on our phones. Much more robust than even using TB.

As for the ICS leaks- they are a godsend for people with new LTE coverage in the area,especially those that regularly travel into and out of 4G coverage areas.
 
Well, the manufacturer's 1 year warranty is still in effect for every BIONIC purchaser - the first day they were available to the public was Sept. 8, 2011. So, yeah, I suppose they are still replacing BIONICs for BIONICs using normal warranty procedure.

Extended / superseding warranty companies like Asurion may be replacing with other phones....
I concur. I stopped by the Verizon store today and they said that although they are not selling the Bionic anymore, they still have them on hand (refurbs) to replace the ones on warranty. I guess it is the luck of the draw as to getting a refurb or a replacement of another brand (Galaxy S3, Razr Maxx, etc).
 
There are Pros and Cons to root-ing and they should be evaluated closely before jumping. You are assuming responsibility for what happens to your Bionic. Be prepared. Something is guaranteed to go wrong and you will need to fix it. Always have a recovery path laid out before trying anything.

I think a large number of Bionics were returned that suffered from software bugs that were corrected in later releases. The refurb is tested, cleaned up, and the latest system software is installed.

The reports we hear from people in this forum who are playing with ICS and getting much less data drops is very encouraging. They are not replacing their Bionic. The software is apparently improving on their old Bionic.

... Thom

Much agreed, rooting is not for the faint of heart and requires an awful lot of reading and understanding before making that jump. About 9 out of 10 of the members that come to me to ask questions or buy phones, I would never suggest it. Perhaps I take for granted that the majority on this site are more educated and more likely to take that plunge.

Problem that I've seen when I hear of people who get stuck in that refurb loop is that the latest software is often the exact software they had on the phone to begin with. So long as that same software is on those phones, the same results are more than likely to return.

The new software is what makes a diff which is why I recommend rooting. And that was my point to begin with.
 
The reason so many perfectly good phones got turned in (all with the same software bugs) is that Verizon would respond to any halfway challenging problem with ...

1. Factory Data Reset
2. Still broken ... replace it

The reports on ICS that I read here are very promising. This is a solution on the upgrade path that does not expose the casually interested to the dangers of root-ing.

I stayed un-root-ed to "do it Verizon's way" and guarantee that my single business phone would be available. I participated in the last two soak tests and thought they were actually supposed to accomplish something. The last soak test was in parallel with a partial release (5.9.905) and I came away from that week wondering why they bothered to have it at all.

If the next release is handled in this make believe fashion I will abandon my current approach root and have access to a few utilities that I miss from my Droid X (when it was still root-ed).

... Thom
 
The great thing about the new ICS leaks is that you do not have to bee rooted to install them. They install just like any other OTA, and thus can also be manually installed.
 
The reason so many perfectly good phones got turned in (all with the same software bugs) is that Verizon would respond to any halfway challenging problem with ...

1. Factory Data Reset
2. Still broken ... replace it

That is SOOO true. I suppose it's come to a point that it's cheaper to replace with a refurb than it is to actually spend man-hours training techs and/or having them transfer their knowledge onto their customers. From what I've seen, though, the most common issues seem to be operator error (or more fairly, naivette) or software. I guess I can see the logic in that. I dunno. lol My brain just travels sometimes.
 
ive been dealing with the data drop issues for over a year starting with my bionic. ive had 3 bionics (multiple OTA /leaks) and now 2 razrs(both ics).

in my experience when i was on the bionic with maybe the .901, 4G came to my area. All the sudden over night I had a rock solid 3 bar 4G with data. It was so solid I canceled my home internet service and put my unlimited data plan to use.

I thought it was finally fixed. Two months go by no issues, then I get a notifacation that there is a new OTA...i thought it was ICS so I jumped on it. It was the .905. After that it was same old story again...I called in right away and they suggested trying a razr since it has ICS now and that was supposed to be the absolute fix.

Razr had same issues except now instead of just dropping data I have a wildly fluctuating signal. I live .46 miles from the 4G tower. There are a few trees, corn fields, some rolling hills but, I'm at the highest elevation.

Within the span of about 15 mins it will go from full bars 3g with data down to 1 bar 3g then switch into 4g 1 bar then full signal, then it loses data, then back to 3g then the 3g and 4g just disappear and its dancing bars, then here comes the 4 g again...over and over and over.

This also happens on my girls bionic who lives here with me as well. When my mom visits she has the same issue on her razr. Verizon sent out a network engineer and they also were able to duplicate the issue, yet they are trying to tell me this is normal fluctuating signal and suggesting I try using my phone out in my yard for better signal. That doesnt help either by the way.

For two months I had rock solid 3 bar 4g even in my basement. I have recently turned back on the home internet.

Verizon claims there are NO data connection issues with these phones.
 
Believe it or not I've seen such fluctuations living that close to a tower as well. I cannot explain it.

I can say this - for the BIONIC, the ICS leaks have cured all of my connections issues.
 
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