Google I/O 2015 Companion Thread

[EarlyMon]

This is pretty cool for Android Wear -

http://phandroid.com/2015/05/29/project-soli-could-change-wearable-device-interaction/

Google Now on Tap -

http://phandroid.com/2015/05/29/google-now-on-tap/

Project Abacus for identification -

http://phandroid.com/2015/05/29/google-atap-project-abacus-vault-io15/

 

[codesplice]

By the way, that Smart Lock password management thing is going live. Google Play Services 7.5 is rolling out, and you can also access the service / store passwords at https://passwords.google.com

 

[bjacks12]

Yeah, I tried it earlier. Uninstalled Netflix and reinstalled it, it remembered my password.

Devs have to opt in as far as I can tell.

 

[codesplice]

Yeah, I tried it earlier. Uninstalled Netflix and reinstalled it, it remembered my password.

Devs have to opt in as far as I can tell.

For the Android piece, yes. You should be able to use it everywhere in Chrome though.

 

[codesplice]

This is pretty cool for Android Wear -

http://phandroid.com/2015/05/29/project-soli-could-change-wearable-device-interaction/

Google Now on Tap -

http://phandroid.com/2015/05/29/google-now-on-tap/

Project Abacus for identification -

http://phandroid.com/2015/05/29/google-atap-project-abacus-vault-io15/

Added those links to the OP - thanks for finding them at Phandroid

 

[bjacks12]

So I decided to see what M is all about:

So far so good....

 

[EarlyMon]

There's new feature or something related to Security ?

Several.

http://phandroid.com/2015/05/28/android-m-app-permissions/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...or-accessed-normally-with-no-additional-apps/

Plus they're updating Google Wallet into Android Pay.

These are active projects, not in M - yet -

http://phandroid.com/2015/05/29/google-atap-project-abacus-vault-io15/

 

[funkylogik]

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-sd-card-view-recovery-logs-and-mount-system/
Android M stock recovery allows applying updates from sd card (not clear yet if that's going to include internal sd)

 

[bjacks12]

So doze works

 

[codesplice]

@bjacks12 I'll say!

How much off-charge time was that?

 

[bjacks12]

I unplugged it at about 7:30 this morning and left it on my bed all day. So almost 12 hours

 

[funkylogik]

So does doze have like a toggle or settings or is it just always on?

 

[bjacks12]

Always on

 

[codesplice]

So does doze have like a toggle or settings or is it just always on?

It sounds like it's always-on across the board, but it can be disabled on a per-app basis if needed: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-can-be-turned-on-and-off-on-a-per-app-basis/

 

[bjacks12]

I used it for about an hour and a half last night and didn't plug it in when I went to bed. I woke up and it hadn't drained overnight. It was at about 70% battery IIRC. Left it at home again, I'll see what it looks like tonight.

 

[EarlyMon]

I guess that my concern is that this solves only half of the problem.

It's great for a phone at rest.

But most of the time just walking around with your screen off, it ought to be nearly in full hibernation.

A number of things prevent this, not the least of which are apps asynchronously pounding on Play Services for live location updates when really - Play Services could ask once every X minutes for location and just have a layer that reflects the queued value back to the apps. Ditto for anything else that stupid apps sneak in to keep the device awake via Play Services.

That entails modifying Play Services because the people who write apps like Facebook are thumb-sucking blithering idiots - but no one blames the bad apps when the power monitor says that Play Services is broken.

Because Facebook is wonderful on my iPhone and Google sucks.

 

[bjacks12]

I guess that my concern is that this solves only half of the problem.

It's great for a phone at rest.

But most of the time just walking around with your screen off, it ought to be nearly in full hibernation.

A number of things prevent this, not the least of which are apps asynchronously pounding on Play Services for live location updates when really - Play Services could ask once every X minutes for location and just have a layer that reflects the queued value back to the apps. Ditto for anything else that stupid apps sneak in to keep the device awake via Play Services.

That entails modifying Play Services because the people who write apps like Facebook are thumb-sucking blithering idiots - but no one blames the bad apps when the power monitor says that Play Services is broken.

Because Facebook is wonderful on my iPhone and Google sucks.

I wish I had an N5 or 6 so I could test M on the phone to see how it works in that scenario. Since my 4 will almost certainly NOT receive Marshmallow in November, I'm going to probably buy the new LG-made Nexus.

 

[EarlyMon]

From the fix Material Design Colors Department for App Developers Only -

http://phandroid.com/2015/06/02/android-m-black-status-icons/

 

[EarlyMon]

I wish I had an N5 or 6 so I could test M on the phone to see how it works in that scenario. Since my 4 will almost certainly NOT receive Marshmallow in November, I'm going to probably buy the new LG-made Nexus.

Probably wouldn't be able to tell with a beta and the current Play Services.

 

[bjacks12]

From the fix Material Design Colors Department for App Developers Only -

http://phandroid.com/2015/06/02/android-m-black-status-icons/

Will this work on the home screen I wonder? I often pick a new wallpaper only to realize that I can't see any of my notification icons.

 

[EarlyMon]

Will this work on the home screen I wonder? I often pick a new wallpaper only to realize that I can't see any of my notification icons.

It's up to app developers so I expect that could be a non-root feature of a launcher if so coded.

 

[codesplice]

Action Launcher is able to change the homescreen theme to match a wallpaper (even some live wallpapers). I think being able to adjust the status icons would be a nice extension of that.

 

[EarlyMon]

Ability to suppress all carrier bloatware, not just for Nexus or just for Sprint phones.

Ability to clear cache AND Dalvik from stock recovery (to avoid factory data reset except as the ultimate final resort).

User-unlockable bootloader via fastboot oem unlock.

What M needs -

Inability to load and run Play Services unless the previous conditions are met.

Not going to happen. Just thought I'd point that out though.

 

[bjacks12]

By the time that happens I'll be your age.

 

[EarlyMon]

And here is a great big forward step to rear -

http://phandroid.com/2015/06/02/android-m-rro-layers-theme-engine-support-baked-in/

Iow - Android M to supply for root what the latest Sense and evidently TouchWiz does for stock.

Well, I'm not surprised. Hard core fans will hail this as yet another breakthrough invention.

It just wouldn't be an I/O without Google half reinventing an existing HTC feature.