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Help GPS function is wasted after 2.3.4 Update

riverlynx

riverlynx

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My Atrix just upgraded to Gingerbread 2.3.4; and while it seems mostly great, the GPS function has been wasted! The GPS capability is one of the main reasons that I got the Atrix. I use daily GPS Essentials; Google -- Maps, Earth, my Tracks, Navigation, they used to work just fine and very accurately, the GPS Essentials has one screen that shows the individual Satellites as they become visible and then show when they actually connect for the FIX. My home base in in Astoria Oregon.

Now Google maps show my location as Tennessee and Georgia!! The very few Satellites that show up in GPS Essentials never connect for the FIX. This occurred as soon as the update finished, and I've tried removing the battery, rebooting, all to no avail!

WTF? Please someone tell me of a fix for this. I mean that I'd prefer the old 2.2.2 to this, can I go back to the old? is there a known FIX for this? Otherwise I'll have to give up the Atrix and I just Love it otherwise.

I've tried Clearing the GPS Apps Caches, No Help.
Then I uninstalled all of the GPS using Apps, and then downloaded and reinstalled them again no help, GPS still does NOT Function like it did before the update.

Please HELP.
 
riverlynx said:
My Atrix just upgraded to Gingerbread 2.3.4; and while it seems mostly great, the GPS function has been wasted! The GPS capability is one of the main reasons that I got the Atrix. I use daily GPS Essentials; Google -- Maps, Earth, my Tracks, Navigation, they used to work just fine and very accurately, the GPS Essentials has one screen that shows the individual Satellites as they become visible and then show when they actually connect for the FIX. My home base in in Astoria Oregon.

Now Google maps show my location as Tennessee and Georgia!! The very few Satellites that show up in GPS Essentials never connect for the FIX. This occurred as soon as the update finished, and I've tried removing the battery, rebooting, all to no avail!

WTF? Please someone tell me of a fix for this. I mean that I'd prefer the old 2.2.2 to this, can I go back to the old? is there a known FIX for this? Otherwise I'll have to give up the Atrix and I just Love it otherwise.

I've tried Clearing the GPS Apps Caches, No Help.
Then I uninstalled all of the GPS using Apps, and then downloaded and reinstalled them again no help, GPS still does NOT Function like it did before the update.

Please HELP.
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Ok, I've tried clearing the caches for ALL the GPS Apps, No Help.
Then I uninstalled them all, reinstalling them has not helped either.

GPS Essentials, is a great (free) App with many separate pages/functions Camera, Compass, Map, Tracks, etc -- but the Satellite page shows when the Satellites show up and then if they make a FIX or not, the Satellites are even numbered. The Satellites now show sometimes, though not as well as before the Ginger update, but the Atrix somehow is not making a GPS Fix. The Satellite page shows when the Satellites are seen by the GPS, and are shown in Blue, when it gets a FIX they turn GREEN; but since the Update ... if they do show up -- they don't turn green or FIX , so the GPS using programs are essentially non-functional and worthless.

The new installs of GPS Essentials; GPS Speed, & Google ->- Maps, My Tracks, Earth, Sky, Navigation all are not functioning correctly, they show my location in Tennessee and Georgia! It is not just one App, it is all the Apps that use GPS, the Atrix GPS Icon just flashes without turning steady, it's like the GPS function went down with the update.

Thanks for all of the ideas, but there must be others in this situation, and there should be a fix or work-around out there.

Please keep those ideas coming, I'll report when I find a fix or another answer.
 
This may sound stupid, but have you turned off the "Use network location" option? It's possible that is getting something goofy.

Here's why. When this option is checked, the GPS looks to the network to figure out the general location and the time. It then uses that to know what GPS sats to look for in the sky.

If the network is feeding it something wonky (Say a security program is running your mobile data through a proxy down here in the south???), then the GPS is going to be looking for the wrong birds in the sky and not be able to get a proper fix.

The phones don't work like a handheld GPS that powers up and listens to the signals (That's what takes them so long to figure out where they are - my Old Magellen takes 5 minutes!!). The phones cheat by getting a hint from the network, and then look up what birds should be overhead at that time and tune in to those channels first.
 
WolfmanRobby said:
This may sound stupid, but have you turned off the "Use network location" option? It's possible that is getting something goofy.

Here's why. When this option is checked, the GPS looks to the network to figure out the general location and the time. It then uses that to know what GPS sats to look for in the sky.

If the network is feeding it something wonky (Say a security program is running your mobile data through a proxy down here in the south???), then the GPS is going to be looking for the wrong birds in the sky and not be able to get a proper fix.

The phones don't work like a handheld GPS that powers up and listens to the signals (That's what takes them so long to figure out where they are - my Old Magellen takes 5 minutes!!). The phones cheat by getting a hint from the network, and then look up what birds should be overhead at that time and tune in to those channels first.
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After all of the things that I've tried, I was ready for almost anything to try; so I tried your not-so-stupid suggestion(s) turned off the "Use network location" optionand also re-did the compass calibration, which I was never sure exactly how to do originally, so I went through all of the pictured animation motions until the diagram went from the rotating phone into a "compass" like diagram.

I'm not sure what is going on but right now I'm inside my house and I'm getting 7-10 Visible and 6-9 used in the FIX. I'll check back in to let you all know what I've learned.

But to be clear, now I can go into GPS Essentials and open the Satellite Screen to watch the "Satellites" come into view and they are now FIXing.

All of the GPS Apps are good now too, so it looks like some of the many steps I've taken are working to re-enable the functionality of the Atrix GPS.

We will see if this continues to work OK.

Thanks to all.:D
 
If it was turning off the "Use network location" option, then there are a few things to check...

-Your carrier (AT&T I assume) is feeding false location from the tower to your phone. This happens and you need to call them.

-Your home ISP is giving a false location, and you are getting that through the WiFi connection. To see if that's the case, turn the network location back on, turn off the WiFi and then reboot the phone (To clear the cached location from the GPS). If you get the right location when it comes back up, then you were getting the bad location from your ISP, not AT&T

-You have some security program on your phone that runs as a Proxy, and that Proxy is down here in the South. Are you aware of such a program?

-If you don't have a security program running a proxy, and the above testing does nothing to pinpoint the problem, you may have MALWARE on the phone!!! Just like on a PC, there are a few Android MALWARE infected apps that run you through a proxy, capture what you do (usernames, passwords, account numbers, shoe size....) and use that to steal your identity!
 
I have the same exact issues with mine since the update.
I got into Geocaching because of this phone, and its initial ability to get right near targets with great accuracy. I have even cached with others that use standalone GPSr units, and was right with them before the update.

Whatever happened, happened because of gingerbread. Nothing else changed. I use the same programs, the same apps, same locations.
All programs report a GPS accuracy error of 0 feet (yeah, right), my compass jumps all over the place, GPS status jumps all over the board from being within 5 feet of a cache to 5 miles away. You can even pull up google maps and see your current position jumping around (even while standing still).

I can recalibrate the compass, and it doesn't do much good after about a few minutes. I stopped carrying the phone in a holster with magnetic closure, that changed nothing.

Sometimes, its right on top of things. Sometimes it jumps all over. You never know what its going to do, which makes it really unreliable. Even google navigation runs me around in circles because it can't figure out where I really am.

Again, nothing has changed but the OS. The phone was flawless on Froyo. It was dead reliable. Now, I can't even count on it to navigate me down the street without going around in circle.

You're not alone with these problems.
When GB rolled out, there were a few of us pointing out the 0ft error in the accuracy in all GPS programs that report it.

I'm really frustrated, as I started Geocaching and really got interested in it, but GB took away all the capability of the Atrix to do anything useful with any reliability. The GPS sensor is completely fubared.

If you are getting better data now, please list what you have done to fix your Atrix. I'm at wits end with mine. Glad I have a Tom Tom in my car to rely on accurate directions. If I could trade back to 2.2, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Nothing that was improved with 2.3.4 outweighs the GPS being broken. Nothing. :(
 
@33Forward

My GPS works MUCH BETTER after the GB update, and I've done NOTHING to it. My phone runs stock, no mods, no root. So, I've done nothing to FIX it, but I've also done nothing to BREAK it. And, I am currently a beta tester for the CacheSense for Android Geocaching app. (I was a long time user of the CacheBerry app on BlackBerry, and I am the one that suggested the name CacheSense when Bruce renamed the app). That being said, I know a good bit about the compass and GPS units - both handheld and in the phones.

It sounds like you have a problem COMPLETELY different than the OP, unless your GPS is saying you are on the other side of the country. In fact, it sounds like you are having 2 problems.

First problem - the compass, I can tell you why it jumps around and it has NOTHING to do with the GB update, it's a hardware issue.
Android Phones use a bi-axial (2 axis) magnetometer as the compass hardware. GPSr units use a tri-axial (3 axis) magnetometer.

What this means is that the magnetometer in the phones can't work accurately as a compass when tilted on the 3rd axis. This means you have to have the phone laying flat and level on it's back. Tilt it left or right, up or down, and it will cause the reading to go off.

The GPSr units have the ability to calculate the 3rd axis, so they read the same if it's laying on it's back, or you are holding it up in front of your face.

Now, it may seem WORSE after the update, but that is because of problem 2, that I'm about to get into. See, the compass in the phone cheats off of the GPS in the phone to get a relative position. And, some of the info you see is from the GPS, not the Compass.

Second Problem - The GPS. There were some really great tweaks to the GPS functions in the GB update. Honestly, it sounds like something happened during your update.
My first, gut instinct.... FACTORY RESET of the phone and reload the GB update. Start fresh.
This happens. It happens on Windows, Apple, iPhones, BlackBerry, and Android. I've seen people upgrade their BlackBerry OS and have nothing but problems where the guy next to them had nothing but improvements. We would have the person wipe and reload and suddenly, all their problems are fixed. Just like if you have to wipe and reload Windows or Linux because some update corrupted something in the base code of the OS.

I seriously doubt the OS update broke the GPS itself. What broke is the software interface to the GPS chip. And, that's why I think you need to wipe and reload the phone.
 
Been there, done that. 3 times. 3 times I've done a complete wipe, factory reset, and reload of all apps. Not a single thing fixed it. I'm running factory stock, no mods or root either.

I actually have a small property where I have hid some "caches", non-official ones, just to test out how the accuracy of the phone is working. Some are out in the open, some in trees, some in deep cover.

I had planned on hiding some of my own, so I set these up as tests to see if I could really set out my own by using the phone and a GPS averaging app.
I know right where the caches are, obviously, but walk with the GPS as if I had no idea, and I just follow where it tells me to go.

I was under the impression that the Atrix had a tri-axis? Hence why the compass needs to be rotated around all 3 to get a solid calibration? If it only works off 2, then why the need to calibrate off the 3rd? Either way, I usually hold mine flat or nearly so anyway.

Phone hardware aside, it worked fine before. I could easily rival that of my GPSr friends with it. It never jumped around, never had to recalibrate the compass every 5 minutes, and it gave an accuracy reading. Once GB was installed, all that changed. You have no idea how accurate your position really is, which is a common issue since GB. All GPS apps report 0ft error. How is this not due to GB?

Its really as simple as: before GB, it worked great. after GB, its erratic and unstable. Compass was never an issue before. Now it is. Accuracy was never an issue, now it reports 0 error. It tracked straight to the coordinates before, now it can easily go past it, around it, be 5' next to it and report 5' away, then 50'.

In fact, I popped my sim and SD into my old backflip on 2.1 just to test out the apps and check my simulated caches with another device. Its accuracy is nowhere near as good as the Atrix, but it was stable. All the same programs operate steady, the compass doesn't jump around, and it tracks to my cache without going around in circles. The problem with the backflip is the accuracy is horrid. I was getting 32' around here with it, compared to my Atrix running Froyo, which was about 6-9' at its best, 13' in the trees.
 
33Forward said:
How is this not due to GB?
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Simple answer.... Because, if it was a GB issue, then EVERYONE would have the problem.

Let me ask you this.... When you did the wipe and reload, did you test this function BEFORE you reloaded all of your apps?? It could be a compatibility issue with one of the apps. And, if you load that app back on there, you just break it again.

A true test is WIPE and RELOAD the OS. Then, pull down the free program "GPS Status and Toolbox" from the market. It has a few nice tweaking, testing tools in it. (It also has a bubble level on the compass to verify that the phone is level so you can rule that out as a cause of the issues.)
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2&feature=order_history

Test the GPS with just that on the phone, no other apps. If it works fine, it's one of your apps and just load and test them one at a time until you find the one that breaks it.
If it doesn't, then you've got something going wrong with the hardware in the phone, unrelated to the GB update. It just happened to happen after the update.

It's like when you take your car in for an oil change and the next morning, your A/C stops working. The A/C worked fine before they changed your oil, so the oil change guys MUST have broken your A/C.... when they had nothing to do with it. It was just timing.
 
33Forward said:
I was under the impression that the Atrix had a tri-axis? Hence why the compass needs to be rotated around all 3 to get a solid calibration? If it only works off 2, then why the need to calibrate off the 3rd?
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It's to rotate it off axis and back to get it to lose the reading and regain it so that it can calibrate the compass to the AVERAGE level reading. Just like, when placing a cache, you are supposed to take a reading with your GPS, walk the GPS a few feet away and come back, let it stabilize and take the reading again. Do this 3 or 4 times and average the readings to give you the most accurate coord's for the cache.

Here's a test.
To recreate this, download this app: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.apksoftware.compass&feature=search_result It's called simply "COMPASS" by Catch and it's free.
I locked the screen orientation, and told it to NOT use the network or GPS. Also, to show magnetic north, not true north. This way, we are looking at ONLY the results of the magnetometer.

This is with the phone laying LEVEL in the palm of my hand, in the middle of the room:
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I simply tilted the phone about 20* to the right, and this is what I got:
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Then, I tilted the phone about 20* to the left and got this:
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Now, look at that wide range of readings. All taken within seconds of each other, all with the phone held at the same height, in the same place, pointing the same direction. All I did was tilt/roll the phone from side to side.
So, you can imagine what happens when you walk, and try to hold the phone up at an angle you can see it.
 
WolfmanRobby said:
Simple answer.... Because, if it was a GB issue, then EVERYONE would have the problem.

Let me ask you this.... When you did the wipe and reload, did you test this function BEFORE you reloaded all of your apps?? It could be a compatibility issue with one of the apps. And, if you load that app back on there, you just break it again.

A true test is WIPE and RELOAD the OS. Then, pull down the free program "GPS Status and Toolbox" from the market. It has a few nice tweaking, testing tools in it. (It also has a bubble level on the compass to verify that the phone is level so you can rule that out as a cause of the issues.)
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2&feature=order_history

Test the GPS with just that on the phone, no other apps. If it works fine, it's one of your apps and just load and test them one at a time until you find the one that breaks it.
If it doesn't, then you've got something going wrong with the hardware in the phone, unrelated to the GB update. It just happened to happen after the update.

It's like when you take your car in for an oil change and the next morning, your A/C stops working. The A/C worked fine before they changed your oil, so the oil change guys MUST have broken your A/C.... when they had nothing to do with it. It was just timing.
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In my case, the update immediately effected my GPS.

After trying the GPS with and without the "Use network location" option turned off, it works both ways, and occasionally it will simply NOT function. So I do not know what to do to bring about a permanent FIX.

I can say that the UPDATE to 2.3.4 made an immediate impact. I was traveling on the road USING the GPS when I stopped at a large department store that runs WiFi -- the Atrix updated -- and as soon as the update and subsequent reboot finished, the GPS would NOT FIX any satellites for a couple of days. I use GPS Essentials; GPS Status and GPS Fix to monitor and tweak the GPS settings and the GPS was different after the upgrade. None of these helped connect to FIX the birds, though I did try to tweak settings.

I have tried many things attempting to fix this and the GPS does work right much of the time now, but I'm not sure what does the trick. Yesterday the GPS was functioning fine and last night I tried rebooting to see if it could re-FIX but it would NOT for some time. After a few hours it started seeing the satellites again and then after more time the unit began to FIX and has held the FIX even inside my house. I rebooted and it is working OK.

I just see NO rhyme or reason to what is happening, before the upgrade the GPS worked flawlessly, and never got to the state of NOT FIXing. Now when it is working it is good and accurate, but occasionally now after the upgrade it will simply not connect.
 
riverlynx - it sounds like you have one app that's mis-firing.

Here's why... it WORKS sometimes, and sometimes it doesn't. If it was the OS, or the GPS chip, it would never work.

I'm betting money that one of the apps you have is NOT fully GB compatible and it's causing the GPS to flake out intermittently.

All I can suggest is that you remove ALL of the applications that use the GPS. I mean every last one of them. If you have a twitter client, or FaceBook that hits the GPS, remove it.

Then, just put one of the testing apps back on there and see if it's still flaky in the testing tool. If not, then add ONE app at a time back until it starts getting flaky.


EDIT- Personal request.. Could you try not to use all the different colors in your post. I have some issues with my eyes and, honestly, it causes me problems reading them. Again, that's just a personal request. Nothing wrong with what you are doing. It's just, if you want me to help, I need to be able to read what you post. ;) Thanks!!
 
WolfmanRobby said:
riverlynx - it sounds like you have one app that's mis-firing.

Here's why... it WORKS sometimes, and sometimes it doesn't. If it was the OS, or the GPS chip, it would never work.

I'm betting money that one of the apps you have is NOT fully GB compatible and it's causing the GPS to flake out intermittently.

All I can suggest is that you remove ALL of the applications that use the GPS. I mean every last one of them. If you have a twitter client, or FaceBook that hits the GPS, remove it.

Then, just put one of the testing apps back on there and see if it's still flaky in the testing tool. If not, then add ONE app at a time back until it starts getting flaky.


EDIT- Personal request.. Could you try not to use all the different colors in your post. I have some issues with my eyes and, honestly, it causes me problems reading them. Again, that's just a personal request. Nothing wrong with what you are doing. It's just, if you want me to help, I need to be able to read what you post. ;) Thanks!!
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Thank you for your thoughts and time. The Upgrade did immediately effect something, and I think it will take some effort to determine what is the source of the GPS failure. This morning when I turned the Atrix on again, the GPS again would not connect. I tried using GPS FIX, GPS Essentials, and the GPS Status & Tools nothing seemed to work, The GPS Essentials screens would show a number of Satellites though in Blue, and no FIX would occur. Once again my location shows up in Georgia not Oregon where I am located.

I went through toggling on & off various settings; such as the "Use Wireless Networks" all to no avail this morning. I invoked the "Airplane Mode" (that turns off the Wireless and Bluetooth) for a couple of minutes, when the Wireless re-connected -- 11 of the twelve Satellites turned Green (in GPS Essentials) and the GPS FIXed and all of the Apps then functioned perfectly once again. I'm in the house with 10-11 of 12 Satellites contributing to the FIX.

An hour later now the GPS is again NOT FIXing, no matter what I try. I'll check in here occasionally, for some working answers -- and I'll report any findings that I come up with.


* Off topic -- I apologize for the garish formatting, I'm aware of my problem. I'm sort of a Multimedia guy that lacks communication skills so I try to use colors and formatting to get my thoughts across. I'll try to refrain. Thanks for the heads-up.
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From what you describe, I'm thinking more and more that it's an app on your phone that's not GB compatible.

You really have not commented on what I said about removing ALL APPS that use the GPS, testing it, then adding them back, one by one until it stops working.

Just because you are not using the app at that moment does not mean it won't effect the phone. Many programmers are SLOPPY and think it does nothing to leave their app running in the background as a service. They argue that it makes it launch their app faster, I say they are wasting 2 or 3 MB of my phones memory I could use for something else. Now, there are needed reasons for something to run in the background, say if it's checking for updates on something, like the FaceBook app. But, take a GeoCaching app, there's no reason for that to be doing anything on the phone unless you are using it.
 
It sounds like we are having similar problems.

I had done a factory reset yesterday. Only powered up a few apps. GPS status, Geocaching, c:geo (open source), compass, and my FB/Twitter apps.
I had great success for about 2 hours out in the field, then it just went berserk. I was in a park with 2 caches. I ended up walking around in circles trying for either one.
The problem is not easily reproduced. There are no steps that make it happen every time. Originally, I thought it had to do with the car dock, or my case, and the magnets. But eliminating both did nothing to fix the issue.
To riverlynx: does GPS status always show an accuracy of 0 feet error for you as well? All my GPS apps report accuracy to 0 feet. Which comes from the GPS chip, if I remember correct? This happens no matter how well the GPS is working, it just doesn't report a believable value. This was an immediate change when I did my update. This is a constant problem, which points to GB interfering with the GPS data, and not an app.

I feel your frustration. It really stinks to have a problem that shows up at random, you can't force it to happen, and there is no obvious cause, other than the initial "upgrade" to GB, where all this began.

Keep us posted. If you come across anything, anything at all that leads to a result or points at something, let us know. I've wiped my phone so many times now its ridiculous.
 
I just updated 2.3.4 few hours ago and tried to drive around my community with Google Map and OEM car dock. One thing I found is when I was driving around, there is always a small circle around the blue arrow of my location. It never happens before, so I think it means the accuracy is lowered or is it a new way to show accuracy?
 
33Forward & riverlynx

Do BOTH of you have the official Geocaching app or c:geo?
Both of those run in the background at random intervals, both of them have released several updates to the applications due to site GC.com redesigns and for GB compatibility.

Are you sure that you are up to date on both of those apps?

Also, 33Forward, that's not exctly what I told you to try. By putting geocaching and c:geo both back on there, we can't tell what the problem is. That's why I said to wipe and ONLY put one of the GPS testing app's on there. Leave ALL other GPS related apps off the phone. Remove all of those apps for testing. You can live with out them for a couple of days to try to figure out where the problem is.

(FYI - c:geo is an "Illegal" app under GS terms as they illegally scrape the database. Instead of trying to shut them down, Like people claimed, GC.com reached out to them and offered them official access to the API. The developer of c:geo refused. C:geo is a great app, but they are breaking the rules the way it works. How they function is technically HACKING the GC.com database through your user account. GroundSpeak spends a LOT of money maintaining the site, and the database of caches. When apps like c:geo SCRAPE that database illegally, it puts a drain on the gc.com servers and causes problems with the database. GroundSpeak would be well withing their rights (and I think they SHOULD) to DELETE and BAN any user who's account logs in through the c:geo app as long as c:geo refuses to comply with the data access restrictions. - From this point on, I will REFUSE to help ANYONE that states they are using C:Geo on their phone until C:Geo agrees to comply with Groundspeak's policies for access to the GC.com Live API - End of discussion!
Geocaching Live Access and Restrictions
Customer Feedback for Geocaching - API for 3rd party applications )
 
I have both of the up to date versions.
Unfortunately.
2.0.5 on GC made using PQs a pain when you're in cellular dead zones. But one of the admins has taken up the cause and is working on a fix.

g:geo is the opensource, not carnero's version. I was under the impression that GS was ok with the opensource version. I started GC'ing with carnero's version until I bought the "official" app.

And you refuse to help since I have an app on my phone? Look, I don't know all the politics going on behind the scenes at GC.com, and who is and who isn't authorized to access the site. I'm still new to this. I just started a couple months ago. Obviously, its a personal issue to you that the app exists. But don't make my using the app a personal beef with me, ok? Its like a person refusing to help a stranded motorist because they try to buy American, and the stranded person has a Honda. You either help, because you want to help regardless, or you don't help. I work on cars, myself. I don't care what someone drives if they are dead on the side of the road and need help.
 
33Forward said:
I work on cars, myself. I don't care what someone drives if they are dead on the side of the road and need help.
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It's not about the car they are driving, it's about what they are doing with it. If they were escaping a bank robbery, would you still help them? What if they had an illegal nitros system on their car? My problem here is no different. You are using your phone to break the TOS of a company. By helping you, I am contributing to that. And, guess what.... That breaks the rules of THIS SITE.

No version of C:geo is OK. The only Apps that are OK to access live data on GC.com are listed here: Geocaching > Geocaching Live (Add CacheSense to that list, as they are out with the BlackBerry, but the Android version is still in private beta).

As for the politics of it. There is a reason c:geo keeps getting pulled from the Market. It's because they violate another company's terms of service (GroundSpeak, owners of Geocaching.com).

No one here is forcing me to help anyone. I've been a cacher for 7 years now. I have deep respect for what Groundspeak does for those of us in the GC community. I've been a cacher for 7 years now. and If I choose to refuse to help someone that is ABUSING their system by using an unofficial app, then that is my right.

If you would like me to further help you with your GPS issue directly, simply post a screenshot of your app management screen showing c:geo is gone.

But, since you are new, here's how to tell if an app is legit or not. If it asks you to directly enter your username/password into the app, it's BOGUS. The legit apps take you to an authentication web page on geocaching.com where you enter your account info to authenticate the app.
 
krgordonho said:
I just updated 2.3.4 few hours ago and tried to drive around my community with Google Map and OEM car dock. One thing I found is when I was driving around, there is always a small circle around the blue arrow of my location. It never happens before, so I think it means the accuracy is lowered or is it a new way to show accuracy?
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Its showing accuracy. The blue circle doesn't appear if the satellites have a good fix on you. The bigger the circle, the great the inaccuracy.
 
I have no idea how to take a screen shot, but I'm wiping my phone... again, as I type this. So, for what its worth, I paid $10 for the official app, and if c:geo isn't working with GB and is causing issues, then Im not loading it.
I just want my phone to work the way it should. At least just take my word for it. I understand you now. I've been out in the field with cachers that have been doing this for many years, and I completely support GS (even buy my caching supplies through their shop). I know where GC came from, and know that GS puts in a lot of effort. I just thought that c:geo was a problem with GS because it was competing with their own app. I thought that certain other programs (Locus, for one) was allowed to access GC legally? Since carnero's version went away, I though the opensource was accepted. I'm wrong, and now I know.
What is it that you want me to load? Right now, I have only native apps on the phone. Its syncing to my gmail and motoblur at the moment.
I need geocaching at the very least to actually go out and test this and see. I can't wander around all day aimlessly with just GPS status and see when (if) it goes bonkers.
GPS status, Geocaching.com, and ?
It already has google maps as a native app.
Besides, I'm gonna be stuck at the shop waiting on car repairs in a bit. Probably just sitting there with nothing to do for an hour or two. I wont be able to test it until later. :(
 
DO NOT put the geocaching app back on there, yet.

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I can't wander around all day aimlessly with just GPS status and see when (if) it goes bonkers.
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But, that IS what you are going to have to do. You've got to test drive it stock before you can determine if it's the aftermarket accessory causing the problem.

Just pull down the GPS status and Toolbox app I linked to above for testing.

As for the Geocaching.com official app... You wasted $10. It's the worse. But, then again, I'm biased because I've used CacheSense since it was CacheBerry on BlackBerry. LoL.

But, that aside, DO NOT load the Geocaching app back on there until we determine if the GPS is going to flake out without any other GPS apps on the phone or not. That will tell us if it's the app, or the phone. Get what I'm saying?

Think of it like this.... you want to know if the problem is in the spark plug wires the guy put on his car, or in the plugs themselves. The best way is to go with stock wires you know are good, and make sure the plugs all fire right. THEN you put the aftermarket wires back on and see if the engine starts missfiring again.
 
Ok, I'm confused. How do I tell its flaking out if its just sitting here connected to the satellites and not going anywhere?
And how is GC.com a waste of $10 when I have no alternatives? Since the other program you speak of is in private beta testing, $10 to geocache beats wandering around hoping you'll just bump into one. Its the only alternative to nothing right now..?
 
And it still shows an error of 0 feet. This is GB related somehow. With only GPS status on there, how is it possible that the reported accuracy of the satellites is down to a 0ft error? It never changes. I'm inside the house, showing 6fix/6visible, and its accuracy is perfect? That has been a constant since the update.

And FWIW, if you want to see just how much of a newbie I am to caching, my handle there is the same as it is here. I'm learning though. Its tough when you have to learn everything on your own for a good month before finding someone else as a guide to teach you a few things.
 
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