Root Help I'm Bloated!

[emmgee]

Hey i am defiantly new to the smart phone world and all this rooting, ROM, and kernel stuff. The main reason i even researched rooting was because the battery life on the incredible being drain so quick due to background apps running (City ID, Skype Moblie, etc.).

I followed an amazingly helpful guide to root my incredible, and now i have a successfully rooted phone but no clue how or what to do anything with it..I understand rooting gives you Superuser permissions, but i kinda just need someone to throw what that means in my face..

I really would love to find a way to either disable those darn apps that i never ever have touched but love to run anyways, and any other amazing things i can do now that i have the ability.

thanks
emmgee

 

[CramRazz]

If you want to keep your phone more or less stock, you can grab Titanium backup from the market and uninstall the unwanted apps. Another option would be to follow one of the guides in the sticky thread to: flash a new ROM or to move the apps to a different folder. Be sure you perform a nandroid backup before making any changes though.

 

[emmgee]

thanks, im going to look into using titanium to uninstall my unwanted apps, i honeslty didnt know i could remove apps with it. and ive never nanroid backed up either..i will have to look into that to some more. i understand it will save like 99% of my settings and apps and data

 

[iowabowtech]

thanks, im going to look into using titanium to uninstall my unwanted apps, i honeslty didnt know i could remove apps with it. and ive never nanroid backed up either..i will have to look into that to some more. i understand it will save like 99% of my settings and apps and data

Absolutely do a Nand backup before removing things. Either use Rom Manager and do a backup there or by going directly into Clockwork and using the backup/restore option. Critical.

If you're going to use Titanium to kill bloat, might want to turn on "Chuck Norris" mode. (I love the fact it's actually called that).

But doing that will kill stuff with reckless abandon. Root Explorer in Read/Write mode can also 86 apps at will by removing them directly from the /system/apps folder.

You may wish to avoid ditching certain apps. Here's a reference guide that mentions some of the iffy ones:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ng-removing-apps-including-2-2-here-list.html

 

[emmgee]

Thanks a lot! but i still cant grasp was a nandroid back up is...i did a backup through rom manager, but do i need to do it in clockwork to it to be a solid backup. i want a backup that will save everything as it was.

And thanks for the tip on the chuck norris setting, thats hilarious and helpful!

-emmgee

 

[iowabowtech]

Thanks a lot! but i still cant grasp was a nandroid back up is...i did a backup through rom manager, but do i need to do it in clockwork to it to be a solid backup. i want a backup that will save everything as it was.

And thanks for the tip on the chuck norris setting, thats hilarious and helpful!

-emmgee

Your backup in Rom Manager is the exact same thing as the direct Clockwork nand backup. Interesting story, the guy who made RM is also the guy who played a large role in Clockwork Mod so RM is basically a more user friendly interface (a more regular app-like feel) to Clockwork Mod. When you go directly into Clockwork via recovery, you have to scroll through options and select them that way. Just slightly more rudimentary.

 

[emmgee]

awesome, and if i put a new rom or kernel on it i can always just reinstall rom manager and then restore off of my sd card if i choose to do so?

I apprieciate all the help, the phone tech world has recently blown my mind, i can build a entire computer and its crazy how much the phones are turning into them lol

 

[Jonamerica]

Getting rid of bloat is pretty easy, as long as you know what to get rid of. I have a full list of bloat, if you want to do it by hand, in my droid incredible rooting guide.

The easiest way is to use a ROM. If you want to stick close to stock I strongly recommend Virtuousrom. There's an app called Virtuous Buddy that lets you toggle bloat apps on and off.

If you go the ROM route, do a titanium backup of all your user apps (not system apps). Once the new ROM is up and running you can easily restore everything.

 

[Rob.G]

awesome, and if i put a new rom or kernel on it i can always just reinstall rom manager and then restore off of my sd card if i choose to do so?

Yes. you can restore things as they were prior to your tinkering around. However you still should do a Nand backup. If you want to use rom manager also, so be it. The reason is, if you install or uninstall something that puts your phone in a boot loop, you won't be able to get access to rom manager.

 

[Rob.G]

Double post...WTF??

 

[iowabowtech]

awesome, and if i put a new rom or kernel on it i can always just reinstall rom manager and then restore off of my sd card if i choose to do so?

Yes you can but you may not want to. Don't confuse a nand backup with restoring all your apps and data using an app like Titanium. In that event, you are enjoying the new Rom while bringing all your apps and their data back into the mix. That's done via Titanium whereas a nand restore is something you'd do if things went bad and you needed a full blown restore point that includes the previous rom, the apps you were on at that time, etc. Or if you end up not liking the new Rom, you have a quick method to return to your previous setup in it's entirety. I made a writeup awhile back that you may enjoy, it hits on the marriage between Nandroid and Titanium:

http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/233251-how-titanium-backup-tips.html

 

[emmgee]

awesome guys thanks a bunch! i finally Nand backed up and am ready to explore some roms, i will defiently be checking out those links and guides you two have provided.

thanks