WRONG. The card it comes with is an 8gb Sandisk Class 2 and it clearly states so on the card. Please stop making things up. Thank you.
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having worked with technology for 15 years now, im not posting theory, this is fact. i dont see "testing a load time of an mp3 player app on a SINGLE phone from 1 person" as a proven fact. try to look anywhere for READ speeds on an sd card. you wont find any rated speeds from a manufacturer. why? because you cant rate access speeds because its based on the HARDWARE THATS READING IT. how long does it take someone to write a word? a couple seconds depending on who is writing it. how long does it take you to read that word? instantly. writing and reading are the same way on an sd card.
and as far as the write speed theory is concerned, those are MINIMUM WRITE SPEEDS. a class 2 writes faster than its rated speed. class just guarantees it wont write slower than its rated speed. and if youre worried about MILLISECONDS, not half seconds, in writing speed then by all means throw your money at it. but dont go around telling people to waste their money on it as well. and if youre actually using this phone to try to take professional photos in the sense that youre all this worried about save times being fast enough, go buy a dslr camera cus i dont think anyone is gonna be impressed if they hire you to do a wedding shoot and you show up with this phone.
What are you talking about??? There is a entire thread about using class 6 cards over in the Eris forum and everyone has noticed that class 6 cards are indeed faster over the class 2 card the Eris comes with.
Again, you can post as much theory as you want, the fact of the mater is class6 card are faster in smartphones when reading and accessing random data like when the phone creates mp3 lists and displays album art in a list.
youre still only talking about not only a single type of equipment, youre talking about a specific phone itself using a very specific software. i have class 2, 4 and 6 sd cards and have used them all in multiple pieces of equipment from computers to smartphones to dumbphones to cameras and on goes the list, and have only seen a difference in access times if the equipment was slow, not because of the card ratings. there have been a couple people who have tested read speeds themselves between the classes and they were EXACTLY the same. again, i DARE you to look anywhere for read speed ratings from a manufacturer anywhere. you WILL NOT find it. that is a fact.
Deweygroup
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greenrolaids
Android Enthusiast
You are aware that the class10 cards will be sooo much faster to fill up when connected to a card reader than a class2 card.
Dont shoot yourself in your foot just to make a point.
scarshapedstar
Member
Welllllll I wouldn't go quite that far. Every little bitty NAND gate has a latency time, because - unlike reading a book which is a passive activity - whenever you read something off an SD card you're completing a circuit, where the phone sends a coded signal for an address to the card, in the form of electrons, and how they come back reveals whatever's stored in that location. It's much faster than writing but I can't say exactly why because it involves "quantum tunneling".
However, you're basically right overall in that most current devices can't process the data coming back from the SD card quickly enough for read speed to become a limiting factor. It's kinda like if you're reading a book one word at a time and you have to push a button each time that only works once a second; if it takes you ten seconds to read a word, then the button is great, but if you can read a word in a tenth of a second then you need a better button.
And here our phones are slow readers.
anBROid
Newbie
Sorry, "needed" wasn't the right wording. Let me rephrase:
Why did they decide upon including a class 6 card for the Droid if the class 2 was a much cheaper alternative?
Keeping in mind many people ("mainstream") who bought the Droid probably never saw what class it was or did not know the concept of "class," therefore it would have been a pretty inefficient marketing angle.
I want to believe you guys who have the knowledge of memory cards but I just don't think Motorola would spend more for the class 6 if class 2 was just as good.
IOWA
Mr. Logic Pants
Good point. Also, everyone who is playing the Game, just lost this game.
If you don't know what the game is, look here:
http://androidforums.com/forum-games/61023-game.html
scarshapedstar
Member
I cheated.
seoultrain
Newbie
Has anyone replaced the Eris Class 2 with a known high quality Class 2?
Not all Class 2s are equal in performance. Neither are all Class 6s. Class 6s are the safer purchase, but that safety comes at a premium price. At 8GB, I'd say go ahead with Class 6, but at larger capacities, a little research into Class 2s will save you some money.
To base all your statements off of what is most likely a piece of junk Class 2 card is flawed.
marcelob
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I only bought a Class 4, I guess that means my phone's access time will be so sluggish that I might as well underclocked the CPU to 200 mhz [/sarcasm]
Does anyone really think that SD card class will make THAT BIG of a difference? You people act as if anything under Class 6 will be sluggish at best, and I highly doubt that's the case with this phone.
Does anyone really think that SD card class will make THAT BIG of a difference? You people act as if anything under Class 6 will be sluggish at best, and I highly doubt that's the case with this phone.
ChiTownJim
Android Expert
The only real time a slower card will slow you down is when writting things onto the card, so that inital load of all your music and pictures will take longer but really shouldn't make a diffrence in the phone.. I have a class 4 8gig (came from myDare) and the Class 2 8gig that came with my Eris. I switched over to my class 4 about 2 months into owning my Eris and noticed no diffrence in anything when in my phone I did notice it took less time to write all my data on to the card but other then that not a big deal. If I buy another card I would only get a class 6 if it wasn't a big price diffrence
Incredible_Nat
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already went over write speeds probably 4 times now. yes it will fill up faster if youre throwing loads upon loads of data on it. but people who are just using them for apps or offloading pics onto their computer, class 6 is overkill by far.
at least 1 person got it.
Androidoholic
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have one, it works great you will love it.
I have read all statements above and it seems that it would be nice for like and HTC engineer to make a comment on this threat. Electical engineer by trade and played with computers since Sinclair, and Altera, it seems that with just about all storage devices, serverswith RAID whatever, Cisco switches, Medicla Imaging equipment as wel as camera's it not the read speed that is the issue. Reading a "card" is an entirly different process then writing to it. There is alot going on an a card, such as where it will write it, how often it has written to a specific address and so on. I had a Palm Pre with 16Mb and liked the phone very much but now bought an Evo G4 Shift. Taking pictures with that thing works but as another member stated, if you need pictures, well, I take my Nikon for that and do put a high speed card in that. The images store fairly slowly on my Evo and would like more speed. It comes with a 2GB 2 speed and will go for a four speed. I think it is better to spend money on capacity then on speed. I already feel sort of stupid paying for 4G in a city that does not have it, although the phone is pretty fast. Marketing has doen a great job: Faster is better. If you have a $250.000 MB 63 AMG do you really get to work faster then in a VW GTI? It is best to read manufacturers specifications on card and how that relates to actual lab test performed by the manufacturer. I have to 2G card and need 16G to store drivers, switch scripts and vital info. I'll get a 4 speed. I think we all agree on one thing, to go to Newegg ..
saintdanbert
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Phones are starting be used in ways that are similar to full featured workstations. Full featured workstations use secondary storage {commonly called "disk"} for both applications and for the OS {commonly called "paging" and "swapping" (and other ways)}. As these other-than-app uses for storage increase the differences between class 2 and class 6 become more important -- much like the difference between legacy floppy disks and hard disks became important in ways other than capacity.
In dialup days, baud rate was all the rage as an important metric. Early teletypes ran at 110 baud because that was the rate of a very competent typist. That rate was fine for years until something other than human typists got involved did higher rates become interesting and then important.
Cheers,
=$===~ 0;-Dan