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[HOWTO] Tether natively

People throw the terms legal and illegal around quite a bit. There are no laws against tethering. It is considered breach of contract and is a civil matter.

I'll keep an eye on this thread to see if anyone gets flagged. Please keep us up to date.
 
I pay $25 for 5GB monthly access Mobile Broadband Connect. I'll stick with that rather than risk getting caught and having service terminated or racking up outrageous charges.
 
BamaTide said:
And to add to the debate about whether or not it's "ethical" to use this to bypass Verizon's mousetrap access fees.....We are all being charged more for their "new" plans for the exact same features that we already had. In addition, we are using the data that we already pay for in these overpriced plans.

What is unethical is that Verizon (now THE most expensive plans of all carriers) is charging us an additional fee to use the services we already pay for, for which they also just jacked up the price for in anticipation of everyone jumping on the first decent phones they've ever provided, thus forcing us into these new higher rate plans.
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I don't think the debate is about "ethics"...

Its been about does doing this violate the terms of service or not, and how likely are you to get caught doing this.

In the past, I've even seen discussions centered around this could be stretched into being considered Theft Of Service, since you're making use of a "PAY FOR" service without paying.

And I think VZW's charging higher prices, and nickel and dimeing things are more about CORPORATE GREED, profits and revenues than Ethics.

The fees we currently pay for is to make use of the Data features of the PHONE or SmartPhone, not sharing the data services on a PC or other device. (at least as far as the Terms and Conditions/Terms of Service have been worded since the first EVDO phones came out)

So if we really want to talk ethics, is it ethical for someone to knowingly violate Terms and Conditions of an agreement? (we all signed an agreement when started our service with the wireless company, or renewed to get a discount on the latest device). My answer would be no. Its unethical.


As far as the higher prices, think about it this way... 5 years ago, the phones had limited data capabilities, extremely SLOW speeds and a typical user might make use of 10's of mbytes or less per month so the wireless network was sized accordingly. Now you have Droids and other Smartphones and PDA's which can surf full HTML pages with pictures, download files, stream music and video, etc and use 100's of MB and even gigabytes of data each month... While these smart phones can use a lot more data, they still can't use as much data as a PC can/will. The wireless carriers need funding to make sure their network can adequately supply these new data demands (in the forms of towers, back end, etc). That funding has to come from somewhere. So instead of eating those costs (and having less profits), they pass it on to the consumer in the form of higher prices.

But we can all agree, as a consumer and customer, we don't want to have to pay more. We don't want our bills to go up. We all can agree we're paying more than we'd like to, or think is justified.

After all, technology should be making things "smaller, cheaper, faster, better" not more expensive, right?
 
Not that it's right or wrong to do so but the $29.99/mo for data costs VZW about $3 in actual expenses for the usage. I read somewhere on the costs. You can also search for dissections of phones and what the cost of the components are for the phone. Most are about 50% of the retail cost. Ipad is that way too. The rest are indirect costs of advertising, development, overhead, profit, licensing etc.
 
All the chatter about ethics is nice, but relatively useless regarding how to tether natively. Maybe there should be a separated topic called "Should you tether natively" for those that wish to banter over lawyerspeak. I hope I'm not being obtuse, but it seems to me that if you're on a hacker forum, it's because you're interested in technical knowledge and features that go beyond what's readily available in the canned version on the phone.

That's my two cents... 'nuff said on that... onward...

Has anyone tried this on an Incredible or successfully made Android tethering work with a linux box?
 
This is nothing new people. These settings have been used in the Windows forums for years. Those that use PDANet and think you are not violating your user agreement are sadly mistaken. VZW charges an extra $15.00 for tethering which you are avoiding by using PDANet. When you pay the tethering charge you are using the same network that people use when they hack their phone settings. Both PDANet and hacking your phone settings are violating your user agreements. My take on it is i'm already paying ridiculous amounts of money to have unlimited data on my phone so why does it matter what machine i'm using to surf the net with. Wifirouter does the same thing on a winmo phone that hacking the settings or using PDANet does. A lot of people on this forum are not familiar with the ##778 settings so they think it is illegal versus using a third party app. I had a Sprint Touch Pro I used the same setting to hack the phone to put it on VZW when VZW use to put out gimped phones and sell them for the same price as others. You are paying for a service. It's not like you are using internet without an internet plan. Your just sharing it with a device that's easier to use for internet. Now if you were sharing that connection with your neighbor then that would be illegal. My two cents.
 
linuxophile said:
All the chatter about ethics is nice, but relatively useless regarding how to tether natively.
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Its relavent in that if you do this, you need to know that there are possible consequences so that people can decide if they want to take that chance or not.

I'll repeat what I've said many times back in the day on Hofo... I'm not going to say you can or can't do this, I'm not going to say you should or shouldn't.. I'm not going to say if VZW *WILL* or *WILL NOT* catch you. But I DO think people should have the facts so they can fully understand the decision they are making.

linuxophile said:
Maybe there should be a separated topic called "Should you tether natively" for those that wish to banter over lawyerspeak.
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That is certainly a good idea, but I would recommend if that happens, any discussion of "how to" contain a link to the "should you..." thread...

linuxophile said:
I hope I'm not being obtuse, but it seems to me that if you're on a hacker forum, it's because you're interested in technical knowledge and features that go beyond what's readily available in the canned version on the phone.
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I'm sure there are a lot of people new to android who searched and found Android Forums as a way to learn about their phone, its features, etc. Not necessarily how to HACK their phone.
linuxophile said:
Has anyone tried this on an Incredible or successfully made Android tethering work with a linux box?
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I haven't tried on linux, but I can say it works for Windows making a plain dial-up connection icon. So I would think you could do the same in Linux.
 
Just so you all know, i won my incredible(which when I plug into my cpu gives me an option to tether that work perfectly) i gave my wife my eris and called to add a data plan, the new 29.99 plan is unlimited, teathering included, or thats what the young lady on the line told me.

But why arent you guys using the built in tether?
 
Really? It was the first thing i noticed when i plugged my phone in.

When you plug into your computer, it comes up and asks how you want to connect

Charge only
HTC Sync
Disk Drive
Mobile Broadband Connect

If you select mobile broadband connect, it installs something called MOTOconnect on your computer, then it connects. Pretty damn simple.
 
And, just for the ethics topic. Ive been using winmo phones for a long long time now, like since the xv6800 first came out. Then I got the eris, and now the Incredible. And Ive been tethering and not paying for a long long time. Point is, with all the data that ive used in that method, torrents, videos, i mean everything, for 3-4 years, VZ knows whats up, they have to. Illegal or not, they havent done anything to anyone for it. This always comes up, the "is it right or wrong" and everybody gets their panties in a bunch and mad at each other and all that. But whatever, VZ has figured it out and the new 29 plan includes tethering, hit em up and find out for yourself.

This is an age old conversation, but so you all know, all the forums ive been in, NO ONE has ever said they got in trouble for tethering without paying the extra 15 bucks.
 
Ok, i just read and read and read about this. VZ is charging 10 a month now to tether, you gotta use vz access manager. I dunno why mine worked the other day, but now it dont, i been in the hospital this week and on some pretty good meds, hell i probably had a wifi connection. But, Like i said though, doing this method above, while it might be a lil un ethical, has never gotten anybody in trouble that i have heard of. take all that as you want to, but thats the deal. If your worried about it that much, then pay the 10 bucks and move on. Godspeed Spiderman
 
chatch said:
If you select mobile broadband connect, it installs something called MOTOconnect on your computer, then it connects. Pretty damn simple.
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OP again... MOTOconnect? This is an HTC phone... if that happens to do a dialup connection then it would work.. but that is not an HTC program, nor does it get installed automatically.

When I plugged my phone on my PC it just detected the HTC USB Modem, and if you have downloaded the drivers, it installed that. Even though the phone says it has the feature enabled you will not get any sort of internet access unless you follow the instructions in the OP to dial #777 and get an IP through the PPP connection.

Even though I have not tried this on Linux yet, when I had another feature phone configured in the same way using usbserial driver, it worked fine under Ubuntu to tether as described in the OP.
 
chatch,

This is an HTC Incredible forum. Thanks for your response, but MOTO connect does nothing for me...appreciate your willingness to share, though.
 
this guide does not work for ubuntu karmic/lucid. i've tried everything.

the phone shows up as usb-storage even in MBC mode.

usb-modeswitch can't change it.

karmic/lucid detects usb devices differently then older distros so half the steps in method #2 on your guide don't even exist/are incompatible for these builds.

when i try to modprobe as usbserial:

Code: 
[  865.722353] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
[  865.722757] USB Serial support registered for generic
[  865.723198] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
[  865.723202] usbserial: USB Serial Driver core
[  865.739404] USB Serial support registered for PocketPC PDA
[  865.739472] ipaq 2-3:1.0: PocketPC PDA converter detected
[  865.743348] usb 2-3: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[  865.743361] ipaq 2-3:1.1: PocketPC PDA converter detected
[  865.747289] usb 2-3: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB1
[  865.747305] ipaq 2-3:1.2: PocketPC PDA converter detected
[  865.751927] usb 2-3: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB2
[  865.751951] usbcore: registered new interface driver ipaq
[  865.751953] ipaq: v0.5:USB PocketPC PDA driver
[ 1067.900044] ipaq ttyUSB2: ipaq_open - failed submitting read urb, error -22
[ 1076.250051] ipaq ttyUSB0: ipaq_open - failed submitting read urb, error -22
[ 1106.250138] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at (null)
[ 1106.250144] IP: [<ffffffffa078e6be>] ipaq_destroy_lists+0x2e/0xc0 [ipaq]
[ 1106.250152] PGD 13a77a067 PUD 1368f3067 PMD 0 
[ 1106.250157] Oops: 0000 [#1] SMP 
[ 1106.250160] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
[ 1106.250163] CPU 0 
[ 1106.250165] Modules linked in: ipaq usbserial nls_iso8859_1 nls_cp437 vfat fat usb_storage binfmt_misc ppdev vboxnetadp vboxnetflt vboxdrv snd_hda_codec_atihdmi snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm joydev snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi arc4 snd_rawmidi snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq iwlagn iwlcore psmouse sdhci_pci sdhci snd_timer serio_raw led_class snd_seq_device mac80211 snd cfg80211 nls_utf8 fglrx(P) vga16fb vgastate soundcore snd_page_alloc hfsplus uvcvideo videodev v4l1_compat v4l2_compat_ioctl32 lp parport xfs exportfs uvesafb fbcon tileblit font bitblit softcursor vesafb usbhid hid video output ohci1394 r8169 mii ieee1394 ahci intel_agp
[ 1106.250220] Pid: 1015, comm: modem-manager Tainted: P           2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu Satellite A505
[ 1106.250222] RIP: 0010:[<ffffffffa078e6be>]  [<ffffffffa078e6be>] ipaq_destroy_lists+0x2e/0xc0 [ipaq]
[ 1106.250227] RSP: 0018:ffff88013424fab8  EFLAGS: 00010282
[ 1106.250230] RAX: 0000000000000000 RBX: ffffffffffffffe8 RCX: ffffffff817fae68
[ 1106.250232] RDX: ffffffff817fae68 RSI: 0000000000000286 RDI: ffff8801249981b0
[ 1106.250234] RBP: ffff88013424fad8 R08: ffff88013424e000 R09: 0000000000000000
[ 1106.250237] R10: 0000000000000001 R11: 0000000000000000 R12: ffff8801249981b0
[ 1106.250239] R13: ffff880100eb69c0 R14: ffff880100eb69d0 R15: 0000000000008982
[ 1106.250242] FS:  00007f64be13c700(0000) GS:ffff880028200000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
[ 1106.250245] CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 000000008005003b
[ 1106.250247] CR2: 0000000000000000 CR3: 000000013a249000 CR4: 00000000000006f0
[ 1106.250249] DR0: 0000000000000000 DR1: 0000000000000000 DR2: 0000000000000000
[ 1106.250252] DR3: 0000000000000000 DR6: 00000000ffff0ff0 DR7: 0000000000000400
[ 1106.250255] Process modem-manager (pid: 1015, threadinfo ffff88013424e000, task ffff880138af8000)
[ 1106.250257] Stack:
[ 1106.250258]  ffff880124998000 ffff8801249981b0 ffff880100eb69c0 ffff880124998008
[ 1106.250262] <0> ffff88013424fb08 ffffffffa078e7aa ffff88013424fb08 ffff880124998000
[ 1106.250266] <0> ffffffffa0792360 ffff8801249980b8 ffff88013424fb38 ffffffffa055c941
[ 1106.250271] Call Trace:
[ 1106.250276]  [<ffffffffa078e7aa>] ipaq_close+0x5a/0xa0 [ipaq]
[ 1106.250281]  [<ffffffffa055c941>] serial_down+0x71/0x80 [usbserial]
[ 1106.250286]  [<ffffffffa055cc6e>] serial_close+0x7e/0xc0 [usbserial]
[ 1106.250293]  [<ffffffff8132ac13>] tty_release_dev+0x163/0x5e0
[ 1106.250298]  [<ffffffff810397a9>] ? default_spin_lock_flags+0x9/0x10
[ 1106.250303]  [<ffffffffa055cdd3>] ? serial_open+0x123/0x160 [usbserial]
[ 1106.250306]  [<ffffffff8132bfea>] __tty_open+0x4aa/0x510
[ 1106.250309]  [<ffffffff8132c07c>] tty_open+0x2c/0x40
[ 1106.250314]  [<ffffffff8114666a>] chrdev_open+0x13a/0x240
[ 1106.250318]  [<ffffffff8115e4c0>] ? mntput_no_expire+0x30/0x110
[ 1106.250322]  [<ffffffff81146530>] ? chrdev_open+0x0/0x240
[ 1106.250325]  [<ffffffff81140983>] __dentry_open+0x113/0x370
[ 1106.250329]  [<ffffffff81251b7f>] ? security_inode_permission+0x1f/0x30
[ 1106.250333]  [<ffffffff8114ccff>] ? inode_permission+0xaf/0xd0
[ 1106.250336]  [<ffffffff81140cf7>] nameidata_to_filp+0x57/0x70
[ 1106.250340]  [<ffffffff81150f3a>] do_filp_open+0x2da/0xba0
[ 1106.250343]  [<ffffffff8133099d>] ? n_tty_ioctl_helper+0x3d/0x1c0
[ 1106.250348]  [<ffffffff8144bd65>] ? sys_sendto+0x125/0x180
[ 1106.250352]  [<ffffffff8115c9ea>] ? alloc_fd+0x10a/0x150
[ 1106.250355]  [<ffffffff811406f9>] do_sys_open+0x69/0x170
[ 1106.250358]  [<ffffffff81140840>] sys_open+0x20/0x30
[ 1106.250363]  [<ffffffff810131b2>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
[ 1106.250365] Code: e5 41 56 41 55 41 54 53 0f 1f 44 00 00 48 81 c7 b0 01 00 00 e8 a4 a4 bd e0 49 89 c5 48 8b 40 10 4d 8d 75 10 48 8d 58 e8 49 39 c6 <4c> 8b 63 18 74 35 49 83 ec 18 eb 09 66 0f 1f 44 00 00 49 89 d4 
[ 1106.250399] RIP  [<ffffffffa078e6be>] ipaq_destroy_lists+0x2e/0xc0 [ipaq]
[ 1106.250404]  RSP <ffff88013424fab8>
[ 1106.250405] CR2: 0000000000000000
[ 1106.250408] ---[ end trace 70e192c4381b578b ]---
[ 1136.250144] ------------[ cut here ]------------
[ 1136.250150] kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.32/mm/slub.c:2969!
[ 1136.250153] invalid opcode: 0000 [#2] SMP 
[ 1136.250157] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
[ 1136.250159] CPU 0 
[ 1136.250161] Modules linked in: ipaq usbserial nls_iso8859_1 nls_cp437 vfat fat usb_storage binfmt_misc ppdev vboxnetadp vboxnetflt vboxdrv snd_hda_codec_atihdmi snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm joydev snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi arc4 snd_rawmidi snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq iwlagn iwlcore psmouse sdhci_pci sdhci snd_timer serio_raw led_class snd_seq_device mac80211 snd cfg80211 nls_utf8 fglrx(P) vga16fb vgastate soundcore snd_page_alloc hfsplus uvcvideo videodev v4l1_compat v4l2_compat_ioctl32 lp parport xfs exportfs uvesafb fbcon tileblit font bitblit softcursor vesafb usbhid hid video output ohci1394 r8169 mii ieee1394 ahci intel_agp
[ 1136.250217] Pid: 1015, comm: modem-manager Tainted: P      D    2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu Satellite A505
[ 1136.250220] RIP: 0010:[<ffffffff81134a23>]  [<ffffffff81134a23>] kfree+0x133/0x140
[ 1136.250228] RSP: 0018:ffff88013424f578  EFLAGS: 00010246
[ 1136.250231] RAX: 0200000000000000 RBX: ffffffffa078e72e RCX: ffffffff817fae68
[ 1136.250233] RDX: 00000000008075b0 RSI: ffffea00038337d0 RDI: ffff880100eb6400
[ 1136.250235] RBP: ffff88013424f598 R08: ffff88013424e000 R09: 0000000000000000
[ 1136.250238] R10: 0000000000000001 R11: 0000000000000001 R12: ffff880100eb6400
[ 1136.250240] R13: ffff880106911ae0 R14: ffff880106911ad0 R15: ffff88013931b500
[ 1136.250243] FS:  00007f64be13c700(0000) GS:ffff880028200000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
[ 1136.250246] CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 000000008005003b
[ 1136.250248] CR2: 000000000061ade0 CR3: 00000001121f7000 CR4: 00000000000006f0
[ 1136.250250] DR0: 0000000000000000 DR1: 0000000000000000 DR2: 0000000000000000
[ 1136.250253] DR3: 0000000000000000 DR6: 00000000ffff0ff0 DR7: 0000000000000400
[ 1136.250256] Process modem-manager (pid: 1015, threadinfo ffff88013424e000, task ffff880138af8000)
[ 1136.250258] Stack:
[ 1136.250259]  ffff88013424f5c8 ffffffffffffffe8 ffffffffffffffe8 ffff880106911ae0
[ 1136.250263] <0> ffff88013424f5c8 ffffffffa078e72e ffff88012499bc00 ffff88012499bdb0
[ 1136.250267] <0> ffff880106911ac0 ffff88012499bc08 ffff88013424f5f8 ffffffffa078e7aa
[ 1136.250272] Call Trace:
[ 1136.250278]  [<ffffffffa078e72e>] ipaq_destroy_lists+0x9e/0xc0 [ipaq]
[ 1136.250282]  [<ffffffffa078e7aa>] ipaq_close+0x5a/0xa0 [ipaq]
[ 1136.250288]  [<ffffffffa055c941>] serial_down+0x71/0x80 [usbserial]
[ 1136.250292]  [<ffffffffa055cc6e>] serial_close+0x7e/0xc0 [usbserial]
[ 1136.250297]  [<ffffffff8132ac13>] tty_release_dev+0x163/0x5e0
[ 1136.250302]  [<ffffffff81155d9f>] ? __d_free+0x3f/0x60
[ 1136.250306]  [<ffffffff8132b0ae>] tty_release+0x1e/0x30
[ 1136.250310]  [<ffffffff81144305>] __fput+0xf5/0x210
[ 1136.250313]  [<ffffffff81144445>] fput+0x25/0x30
[ 1136.250316]  [<ffffffff8114053d>] filp_close+0x5d/0x90
[ 1136.250320]  [<ffffffff81068d8f>] put_files_struct+0x7f/0xf0
[ 1136.250324]  [<ffffffff81068e54>] exit_files+0x54/0x70
[ 1136.250327]  [<ffffffff8106b3ab>] do_exit+0x14b/0x380
[ 1136.250332]  [<ffffffff81541e20>] oops_end+0xb0/0xf0
[ 1136.250336]  [<ffffffff81040923>] no_context+0xf3/0x190
[ 1136.250339]  [<ffffffff81040ae5>] __bad_area_nosemaphore+0x125/0x1e0
[ 1136.250344]  [<ffffffff812b746a>] ? __up_read+0x9a/0xc0
[ 1136.250347]  [<ffffffff81040c0e>] bad_area+0x4e/0x60
[ 1136.250351]  [<ffffffff81543a41>] do_page_fault+0x331/0x3b0
[ 1136.250354]  [<ffffffff81541195>] page_fault+0x25/0x30
[ 1136.250358]  [<ffffffffa078e6be>] ? ipaq_destroy_lists+0x2e/0xc0 [ipaq]
[ 1136.250362]  [<ffffffffa078e6ac>] ? ipaq_destroy_lists+0x1c/0xc0 [ipaq]
[ 1136.250366]  [<ffffffffa078e7aa>] ipaq_close+0x5a/0xa0 [ipaq]
[ 1136.250370]  [<ffffffffa055c941>] serial_down+0x71/0x80 [usbserial]
[ 1136.250374]  [<ffffffffa055cc6e>] serial_close+0x7e/0xc0 [usbserial]
[ 1136.250378]  [<ffffffff8132ac13>] tty_release_dev+0x163/0x5e0
[ 1136.250383]  [<ffffffff810397a9>] ? default_spin_lock_flags+0x9/0x10
[ 1136.250388]  [<ffffffffa055cdd3>] ? serial_open+0x123/0x160 [usbserial]
[ 1136.250391]  [<ffffffff8132bfea>] __tty_open+0x4aa/0x510
[ 1136.250394]  [<ffffffff8132c07c>] tty_open+0x2c/0x40
[ 1136.250398]  [<ffffffff8114666a>] chrdev_open+0x13a/0x240
[ 1136.250402]  [<ffffffff8115e4c0>] ? mntput_no_expire+0x30/0x110
[ 1136.250405]  [<ffffffff81146530>] ? chrdev_open+0x0/0x240
[ 1136.250408]  [<ffffffff81140983>] __dentry_open+0x113/0x370
[ 1136.250413]  [<ffffffff81251b7f>] ? security_inode_permission+0x1f/0x30
[ 1136.250416]  [<ffffffff8114ccff>] ? inode_permission+0xaf/0xd0
[ 1136.250419]  [<ffffffff81140cf7>] nameidata_to_filp+0x57/0x70
[ 1136.250423]  [<ffffffff81150f3a>] do_filp_open+0x2da/0xba0
[ 1136.250426]  [<ffffffff8133099d>] ? n_tty_ioctl_helper+0x3d/0x1c0
[ 1136.250430]  [<ffffffff8144bd65>] ? sys_sendto+0x125/0x180
[ 1136.250434]  [<ffffffff8115c9ea>] ? alloc_fd+0x10a/0x150
[ 1136.250437]  [<ffffffff811406f9>] do_sys_open+0x69/0x170
[ 1136.250440]  [<ffffffff81140840>] sys_open+0x20/0x30
[ 1136.250445]  [<ffffffff810131b2>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
[ 1136.250447] Code: 84 ec 6e 00 4d 85 ed 0f 84 1b ff ff ff 49 8b 45 00 49 83 c5 08 4c 89 e6 48 89 df ff d0 49 8b 45 00 48 85 c0 75 eb e9 fd fe ff ff <0f> 0b eb fe 66 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 55 48 89 e5 0f 1f 44 00 
[ 1136.250481] RIP  [<ffffffff81134a23>] kfree+0x133/0x140
[ 1136.250485]  RSP <ffff88013424f578>
[ 1136.250488] ---[ end trace 70e192c4381b578c ]---
[ 1136.250490] Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!
[ 1175.250038] CE: hpet increasing min_delta_ns to 15000 nsec

if i'm missing something let me know. ppconfig/wvdial/gnome ppp/network manager aren't detecing this thing.
 
Alright, if I disable USB debugging ubuntu can detect my my HTC on /dev/ttyUSB1. But I get the errors, "unable to obtain serial information" and "bad init string" when I try to dial out on ppp gnome or wvdial. Funny, because Windows needs the usb debugging to connect...what am i doing wrong?
 
need help with this. I made the changes and connected the phone using mobile broadband however i cannot get the modem to work. I installed the vzaccess for incredible but it doesnt recognize my phone
 
rockstar323 said:
By doing this youre changing the way your data connection contacts Verizon. There is a good possibility that Verizon can track this. Just so you know if you get caught you will be charged around $.25/kb, cant remember the exact cost it may be more though, for all data and Verizon doesnt back off of it. If you rack up thousands of dollars in charges all lines on your account will be suspended until it is paid and if its not paid they will send you to collections.

Tethering apps that provide free or one time cost tethering like PDAnet ARE PROHIBITED by Verizon, its in the contract under the part about data connections, and you can be charged the same $.25/kb as the other method. I was told by a contact at Verizon they are able to tell if youre tethering for free by tracing your ip somehow. I was told your account has to be flagged for them to check it but if youre using massive amounts of data every month you will be flagged.

Not trying to scare anyone just want you to know what the consequences are if you are caught.
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:D:D:D HAHAHAH i tell the exact same BS to customers to get them to add the $30 extra mobile broadband charge. THATS BULL SHIT. I have personally tethered over 7 gbs a month for 4 months and i have never gotten caught and i still tether about 4 a month and am fine. If you stay under 5 gb you will be fine.
 
coalesce said:
Alright, if I disable USB debugging ubuntu can detect my my HTC on /dev/ttyUSB1. But I get the errors, "unable to obtain serial information" and "bad init string" when I try to dial out on ppp gnome or wvdial. Funny, because Windows needs the usb debugging to connect...what am i doing wrong?
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hm, do the first steps (w/o usbserial) work? I'll give it a try on Ubuntu when I have the time; plan to install 10.04 soon. Try posting on Ubuntuforums, you might have better luck there. :)
 
jpepping said:
I too would like to tether via bluetooth. I don't tether that often so using BT would be handy.

Thanks in advance,

Jim
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There are apps out there which can tether via BT, I think PDANet does it. I just use this method for USB tethering.
 
Quick Answer Section

Q: Do I break any law by doing this?
A: If you don't pay your Verizon bill, do the feds come knocking at your door? No. Your use of your handset, as long as it does not cause harm to people or property (the FCC is responsible for overseeing that part), is a matter between you and the service provider, in this case Verizon.

Q: Will Verizon close my account if I do this?
A: As long as you do not use tethering as a primary internet connection from which you download/upload tens of gigabytes of data, then no. You won't even be a blip on Verizon's tether-police radar (just kidding, the don't have actual tether police :~)).

Q: Will Verizon know that I'm doing this?
A: Absolutely not. The data transferred by your computer looks identical to that transferred by your phone. yourphonenumber@vzw3g.com is the same connection used by your handset for internal data connections, and so since you already have 'Unlimited Data' on the handset which is a mandatory feature for smartphones, the Terms of Service are strictly Verizon's legal 'out' for the top 0.0001% of abusers.

Q: Is it ethical?
A: If you're the type to always obey the speed limit, and you put on the breaks when driving downhill, then no; to you this would be cheating. To every other normal person, the answer is a resounding "Yes."

Q: Is there any reason I should not do this?
A: If you can not follow the directions and do not do it properly, you may be charged. However all it takes is a quick phonecall to get the friendly folks at VZW to hand you a courtesy credit on a silver platter. They're not monsters, and neither are you.
 
Tether police: Excuse me sir, do you know why we discontinued your service?

customer: No officer, why?

TP: You were doing over 5GB in a 5GB cap zone.

C: Uh... well.... I ..... poo....

All joking aside, I have tethered with every phone I've ever owned since I've had my service with VZW and never gotten any sort of notification, but then again, I've kept it sensible and not downloaded huge amounts of data. Just when I've needed internet on a computer for whatever reason, like when I moved last year and didn't have any internet service yet at our new location.

Tethering on 1X only, back in the day..... :rolleyes:
 
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