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I believe that marijuana should be legal (discussion)

lordofthereef said:
See I just don't see the point in this. I assume you are saying you cannot sell beer with greater than 3.2% alcohol? That just about eliminates anything I drink. A person that drinks to get drunk is going to do so even on their 3.2% beers. A person that drinks to enjoy a cold beer won't be getting drunk off of that 5% (or so) beer.

Don't get me wrong, I am not necessarily saying you are a supporter of this, but I just don't see the point of doing something like this. Sounds like regulation for the sake of regulation.

EDIT: I missed that liquor stores still allow it. Apologies. Still, I am unclear as to what this stops?
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Lots of people also think it is silly to limit the alcohol content, but it is what it is. We have some odd laws here in Utah.

We had a nice bar here in Utah and the owner added this to his doors in gold leaf:

"Wine, Spirits, and Beer"

The Utah Liquor Control Commission said that using the word 'spirits' was advertising hard liquor which is against the Utah law, so the owner changed it to:

"Wine, Ghosts, and Beer"
 
dudleesmuk said:
i got a funny story. i got a friend who went to the store. some kids asked him to get beer for them. he said no i wood rather get u some weed. they no thanks we can get that on our own. the point is the illegal weed trade is not controlled and makes it easier to get than beer. i say legallize it to keep it from minors.
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Why would your friend rather get some random kids weed than beer?
 
Dark Jedi said:
Ok Pot is regulated by the Government. You really think they are going to allow the competitors (Drug Cartels) To just walk over the boarder with their pot to sell. Then the Government dont make money off the other guys sales. So you would still have Law enforcement paroling and stopping the drug runners.

So really nothing would change as it will just be like alcohol. Its legal just as long as you buy it from a store regulated by the government. Try and make your own and you're violating the law. Try to sell it and you're violating the law. But wait I thought Alcohol was legal?:rolleyes:
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You do realize, during prohibtion, people would smuggle alcohol. After prohobition, people stopped...IE, things changed!!!! Why? Who wants to deal with a shady character to obtain something that can be bought at the corner store? After that, it is simply a matter of supply and demand. Once there is no demand for the cartels drug, they will stop smuggling it. Simple concept really.
 
nlsme said:
You do realize, during prohibtion, people would smuggle alcohol. After prohobition, people stopped...IE, things changed!!!! Why? Who wants to deal with a shady character to obtain something that can be bought at the corner store? After that, it is simply a matter of supply and demand. Once there is no demand for the cartels drug, they will stop smuggling it. Simple concept really.
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People still smuggle alcohol or have you forgot moonshine? That's right you wouldnt know as it dont make the 6pm news. Sure its not on the grand scale as back during prohibition. To drive the drug cartels out of business you would have to basically legalize every hard drug there is. They don't deal in one drug only.

Plus they will always be around as legal pot would be very weak and people would rather get the stronger stuff from the cartels. So they will still have a strong presence in the drug picture.

Don't care if its alcohol or drugs when you constantly use the item your body creates a tolerance to the item. So you have to do more to get your buzz. So the weak stuff the government would push would be fine for the recreational user bit for your more hardcore people the weak stuff just won't cut it.
 
Dark Jedi said:
Don't care if its alcohol or drugs when you constantly use the item your body creates a tolerance to the item. So you have to do more to get your buzz. So the weak stuff the government would push would be fine for the recreational user bit for your more hardcore people the weak stuff just won't cut it.
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You/we are making the assumption that the government would even do this. They don't really regulate alcohol (in the sense that there are limits to the proof a company can produce). I don't think there is really any way to know, currently, what would be written into law regarding the potency of marijuana were it to be legalized.
 
lordofthereef said:
You/we are making the assumption that the government would even do this. They don't really regulate alcohol (in the sense that there are limits to the proof a company can produce). I don't think there is really any way to know, currently, what would be written into law regarding the potency of marijuana were it to be legalized.
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beer is regulated to either 5% or 6 percent.

Well medical pot people says its weak. So you can be sure thats the same pot that will be used if they legalize pot.
 
FreakyLocz14 said:
Besides, why should the government tell us how to live our lives and what we should and shouldn't put into our own bodies? If somebody wants to use a harmful substance, they can deal with the consequences.
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because we elect them to do what they think is for the greater good of the people. remember by the people for the people.
 
dark jedi said:
beer is regulated to either 5% or 6 percent.

Well medical pot people says its weak. So you can assume thats the same pot that will be used if they legalize pot.
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ftfy ;) right now they are probably limiting it the way they have been because it is hard to justify actually getting high for medicinal purposes. In California though, as an example, there are plenty of "designer" (marijuana) plants making it into the medical sector.

And on the beer comment, it seems it's a state by state basis. Some (AL and WV) allow as high as 13.9. Also, by proof one generally is referring to hard liquor and not beer. Likely if beer was much higher than legal limits it would have to be considered hard liquor, thus defeating the purpose, really.
 
FreakyLocz14 said:
Besides, why should the government tell us how to live our lives and what we should and shouldn't put into our own bodies? If somebody wants to use a harmful substance, they can deal with the consequences.
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Because it can affect others, and put a burden on healthcare..
 
I think it is impossible to legalise due to logic. They will not allow people to smoke MJ in public due to secondary smoke and the image etc but also they will not allow specific cafe/smoking houses due to the whole smoking ban that has come into effect (talking UK).

I am neither for it or against it as whatever people do to their bodies is solely up to them just as long it doesn't effect other people. I choose to drink and not smoke as that is my right as a human being. I agree rules have to be in place to create a better society but taxing and legalising MJ could be a way forward if controlled and policed correctly.
 
Why would they need smoking houses? Smoke it out your garden, in a field.
Smoking ban FTW IMO. I hate going to states where they dont have it. Its awful
 
nlsme said:
So can getting into a car accident, smoking cigerettes, drinking alcohol, putting up a chemical plant, power plant....
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Thats why the government fines you for not wearing your seatbelt, not being trained to drive, add high excise to cigs and drink, regulates chemical plants and power plants heavily :)
 
shadowninty said:
Thats why the government fines you for not wearing your seatbelt, not being trained to drive, add high excise to cigs and drink, regulates chemical plants and power plants heavily :)
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My post was more geared to the "can't put in our body". Of course they need to regulate it. But they shouldn't ban it.
 
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