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Root I just got a bionic a few days ago...

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SigmaXiria

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I love it a lot. Phone before this was a rooted LG Ally.... this is a huge step up, but I think I want to root this phone as well to get rid of all the bloatware...

I was wondering, cause I actually really enjoy this android version and ICS if I could root the phone, lose the bloatware and keep running Ginger Bread and ICS (when it is released) and not a user made rom?

I was using Velocity on my Ally and I liked it, but my friend told me that most roms are unreliable and glitchy...

Unless my friend is a moron and user made roms are just as good?
 
Thom Little said:
Removal of pre-installed apps was important on earlier Android machines due to the memory limitations. It is less important on the Bionic. If you are a "Bloatware Removal Fanatic" you will want to root and freeze them.

You will get better coverage of these question in ... Bionic - All Things Root - Android Forums.

... Thom
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I would maybe say that I am "Bloatware removal fanatic" more or less though, I like it simple and only want the apps that I choose installed ( besides necessary ones )
 
I came to the Bionic from an Ally too!

The ROMs for Bionic are great, they are just as stable as Velocity was for our old Ally.

My favorite Gingerbread ROM is Eclipse 2.2. Look into that if you want.

But to answer your question, yes you could stick with both stock Gingerbread and stock ICS (once it is released) thanks to a recovery system available to us on the Bionic called Safestrap, where you actually have two different ROMs installed at once and you can switch back and forth. Currently many people use this to load one stable ROM and then on the secondary partition they flash the custom ICS ROMs that are out now but don't have all the issues worked out yet. So when the time comes and we get an actual ICS release, you should be able to keep Gingerbread on one partition and install ICS on the other.

Don't be afraid of the custom developer ROMs though, not sure why someone told you that the ROMs are unreliable, Eclipse is definitely stable and I believe Liberty and Kin3tx for the Bionic are also great ROMs although I don't think they are being updated as much as Eclipse is these days.
 
PowerBomb said:
I came to the Bionic from an Ally too!

The ROMs for Bionic are great, they are just as stable as Velocity was for our old Ally.

My favorite Gingerbread ROM is Eclipse 2.2. Look into that if you want.

But to answer your question, yes you could stick with both stock Gingerbread and stock ICS (once it is released) thanks to a recovery system available to us on the Bionic called Safestrap, where you actually have two different ROMs installed at once and you can switch back and forth. Currently many people use this to load one stable ROM and then on the secondary partition they flash the custom ICS ROMs that are out now but don't have all the issues worked out yet. So when the time comes and we get an actual ICS release, you should be able to keep Gingerbread on one partition and install ICS on the other.

Don't be afraid of the custom developer ROMs though, not sure why someone told you that the ROMs are unreliable, Eclipse is definitely stable and I believe Liberty and Kin3tx for the Bionic are also great ROMs although I don't think they are being updated as much as Eclipse is these days.
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Haha. We are straight up gangsters.... or something like that... haha. The Ally was pretty lame, but way better once rooted.

My main concern is the look of the rom. I love the way the DROID bionics Ginger Bread runs. Like all of the animations and everything haha. You know what I mean?

I think he is just scared to use a rom so makes shit up or something....
 
PowerBomb said:
I came to the Bionic from an Ally too!

The ROMs for Bionic are great, they are just as stable as Velocity was for our old Ally.

My favorite Gingerbread ROM is Eclipse 2.2. Look into that if you want.

But to answer your question, yes you could stick with both stock Gingerbread and stock ICS (once it is released) thanks to a recovery system available to us on the Bionic called Safestrap, where you actually have two different ROMs installed at once and you can switch back and forth. Currently many people use this to load one stable ROM and then on the secondary partition they flash the custom ICS ROMs that are out now but don't have all the issues worked out yet. So when the time comes and we get an actual ICS release, you should be able to keep Gingerbread on one partition and install ICS on the other.

Don't be afraid of the custom developer ROMs though, not sure why someone told you that the ROMs are unreliable, Eclipse is definitely stable and I believe Liberty and Kin3tx for the Bionic are also great ROMs although I don't think they are being updated as much as Eclipse is these days.
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Agreed, Eclipse is definitely the best bet for a fast, stable, and reliable gingerbread rom. Probably the only one, at least for 902. Liberty and Kin3tx I Believe have a 901 patch, but there is no more developer support for them. It's too bad because I would really like to try out liberty for 902. So it's really only Eclipse or the ICS roms which aren't completely functional yet but are definitely worth a look at. I don't know how you guys lasted on an Ally for so long, that was the loaner Best Buy gave me when I was getting my Bionic replaced and it was horrible :p. I bought a used Droid X in case I ever run into that problem again.
 
SigmaXiria said:
My main concern is the look of the rom. I love the way the DROID bionics Ginger Bread runs. Like all of the animations and everything haha. You know what I mean?
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Well the good thing is, you don't have to commit to a ROM forever. Make a backup of your regular Gingerbread system, try installing something like Eclipse if you feel like it, see how you like it, and if you find yourself missing anything from the stock ROM, you can just switch back.

New Rising said:
I don't know how you guys lasted on an Ally for so long, that was the loaner Best Buy gave me when I was getting my Bionic replaced and it was horrible :p. I bought a used Droid X in case I ever run into that problem again.
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I think it was a case of "I didn't know what I was missing". I didn't realize how much better some of these other phones are lol. I just sold my Ally on eBay, so I spent a few minutes messing with it and making sure I deleted all my data and everything, it's soo slow and choppy, the screen is so tiny, I think the only thing that kept me on that phone was my false belief that I really preferred a physical slide-out keyboard. But messing around with the Ally after owning the Bionic for a few months now was a strange experience lol.
 
PowerBomb said:
Well the good thing is, you don't have to commit to a ROM forever. Make a backup of your regular Gingerbread system, try installing something like Eclipse if you feel like it, see how you like it, and if you find yourself missing anything from the stock ROM, you can just switch back.



I think it was a case of "I didn't know what I was missing". I didn't realize how much better some of these other phones are lol. I just sold my Ally on eBay, so I spent a few minutes messing with it and making sure I deleted all my data and everything, it's soo slow and choppy, the screen is so tiny, I think the only thing that kept me on that phone was my false belief that I really preferred a physical slide-out keyboard. But messing around with the Ally after owning the Bionic for a few months now was a strange experience lol.
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I know what you mean about the Ally haha. Once I played with the bionic, I was depressed that I spent almost 3 years with that damn thing haha....

So, I could root, keep the stock rom (whether it be Ginger Bread or ICS) and delete these lame preloaded apps I don't use?
 
SigmaXiria said:
I know what you mean about the Ally haha. Once I played with the bionic, I was depressed that I spent almost 3 years with that damn thing haha....

So, I could root, keep the stock rom (whether it be Ginger Bread or ICS) and delete these lame preloaded apps I don't use?
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It's recommended you freeze the bloat you don't want with Titanium Backup and not uninstall them. otherwise you'll have to sbf your phone if there's an OTA update, or fxz can't remember what it's called right now. Thankfully I haven't had to yet. And yes you can root and stay on your stock rom.
 
New Rising said:
It's recommended you freeze the bloat you don't want with Titanium Backup and not uninstall them. otherwise you'll have to sbf your phone if there's an OTA update, or fxz can't remember what it's called right now. Thankfully I haven't had to yet. And yes you can root and stay on your stock rom.
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Awesome man! :) I assume just use the motofail root program cause I am on 5.9.902 (I think that's what it is haha)?
 
scary alien said:
No problem, happy to help :)--and welcome to the AndroidForums, we're very glad you signed-up with us.

The guys above did a great job welcoming you and help you out.

Thanks to all!
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That they did! :)

I have A post already in this forum (Mr. Thom Little linked me to the correct forum.) I don't know how to delete it, but I edited the text saying so...

haha. Figured I would let you know :)
 
You can probably afford to wait. Rooting just to remove bloat is kinda a non-issue because the phone has plenty of memory, unless you have 100 apps you want to install and really need the room. Just get to know the phone for a couple days, but this is coming from me, I think I rooted my phone and started messing with ROMs within 48 hours of owning it.
 
PowerBomb said:
You can probably afford to wait. Rooting just to remove bloat is kinda a non-issue because the phone has plenty of memory, unless you have 100 apps you want to install and really need the room. Just get to know the phone for a couple days, but this is coming from me, I think I rooted my phone and started messing with ROMs within 48 hours of owning it.
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Sounds good man! I will do that haha.
 
SigmaXiria said:
Shoul I wait a little before I root to get to know the phone a little better and make sure there are no hardware errors?
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yeah you could give it a couple of days or a week just to make sure everythings running smooth. I waited almost 6 months before I took the plunge heh.
 
New Rising said:
yeah you could give it a couple of days or a week just to make sure everythings running smooth. I waited almost 6 months before I took the plunge heh.
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I would wait atleast a month to root. I had a hardware failure on the 29th day on my droid x.

This phone works great out of the box! I did root because I don't want it to update to ice cream sandwich and blocked the updater. Seems like every phone I have had get buggy after an update! lol

If it's working well, don't fix it. If you're like me and root just to avoid an update to ics, then just freeze the bloatware, not uninstall it. Also, droid wall is an excellent app to save on bandwidth by restricting what apps can use the web (Requires root).

Have fun! :D
 
My Bionic will be here tomorrow so I'll be using this section of the forum from now on.
I'm sure this has been asked before but if you root just to remove bloatware like city id and the NFL App will you still be able to get OTA updates? In the past on Ally I have found sometimes you can and sometimes you can't.
I guess I'm going to need a couple weeks to play with my new toy before deciding to root or not, but city id as I remember it was enough to drive any sane person to eventually root.
 
dautley said:
I'm sure this has been asked before but if you root just to remove bloatware like city id and the NFL App will you still be able to get OTA updates? In the past on Ally I have found sometimes you can and sometimes you can't.
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Typically, an OTA's update.zip file will contain assert checks that test your phone's device and product ids, the build fingerprint, and the checksums of the various files that it will be patching.

So, all of the files that it expects to need to be present in order for the OTA update.zip file to successfully apply.

I believe that even if you freeze an app (with something like TiBu), you'll need to thaw/defrost them before you'll be able to install the OTA.

Cheers!
 
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