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If Sprint released the Evo3D and SGS2 and Photon on the same day which would you pick?

Which phone if all 3 on the same day ?

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Well, after going exclusively with HTC phones my past four upgrades (Mogul, Touch Diamond, TP2, and Evo) it looks like this year's model will be a Sammy after all. The two most important factors for me were camera and battery, and it looks like the S2 will win for battery. It should be a push for stills, but the S2 will offer the better 1080p recording because of the inherent superiority of 30fps.

I love the idea of the dedicated camera button, but I'm not reading that it's a deal breaker in practice. I also like the idea of 3D pictures, but with no way to view them other than on the phone, it's a bit limiting.

I also love the qHD resolution, but as a certain moderator is prone to repeating, resolution is the least important factor in evaluating a display. I completely believe that the 800 X 480 SAMOLED+ screen looks better than the qHD display on the Evo 3D.

I'll definitely read the reviews, but if it's just another month's wait, it looks like my next phone is the S2.
 
I should have made it clear that I don't have a 3d tv I have no interest in buying one.

Also, Touchwiz may not be my cup of tea, but I don't have to drink it with LauncherPro available. I have a Galaxy Tab, and while Sense is a little bit better than LauncherPro, it's not a dealbreaker.
 
Cobravision said:
Well, after going exclusively with HTC phones my past four upgrades (Mogul, Touch Diamond, TP2, and Evo) it looks like this year's model will be a Sammy after all. The two most important factors for me were camera and battery, and it looks like the S2 will win for battery. It should be a push for stills, but the S2 will offer the better 1080p recording because of the inherent superiority of 30fps.
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The last I heard, the E3D recorded in 1080/30 FPS 2D and 720/24 FPS 3D. Has this changed?

Cobravision said:
I love the idea of the dedicated camera button, but I'm not reading that it's a deal breaker in practice. I also like the idea of 3D pictures, but with no way to view them other than on the phone, it's a bit limiting.
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Not much other way of viewing than phone and TV which I have no plans of buying either, but I can understand your viewpoint. My left eye is blind so the 3D portion of the phone is something I simply can't experience.

Cobravision said:
I'll definitely read the reviews, but if it's just another month's wait, it looks like my next phone is the S2.
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I know the Photon may be coming out next month and the Samsung has yet to be announced as of this time, so I don't know if a month is realistic or not. Hopefully, we see it in a month, but if the plan is the Photon in a month for sure, I think it will be more August for the SG2. No facts to back that up, mind you.
 
Cobravision said:
The two most important factors for me were camera and battery, and it looks like the S2 will win for battery.
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Have their been some early reviews on the E3D? Last I heard the sensation had roughly the same battery life as the SGS2. Since the battery in the E3D is bigger then the battery in the sensation I would expect the E3D to outlast the SGS2.
 
Not sure; i've heard mix things abuot battery life on the sensation; and it is not clear how the phone is configured or if it is custom configured for these tests (i.e, services are running). I nkow I saw a review somewhere that gave the senstation luke warm rating for battery life.
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Btw the htc flyer review suggest the flyer has one of the crappiest cameras known. I hope the evo3d does better here; though on my list of features the importance of this feature is relatively low (this comment is based off the comment you quoted where the guy wanted to know about the camera).

apinkel said:
Have their been some early reviews on the E3D? Last I heard the sensation had roughly the same battery life as the SGS2. Since the battery in the E3D is bigger then the battery in the sensation I would expect the E3D to outlast the SGS2.
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apinkel said:
Have their been some early reviews on the E3D? Last I heard the sensation had roughly the same battery life as the SGS2. Since the battery in the E3D is bigger then the battery in the sensation I would expect the E3D to outlast the SGS2.
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Even though the 3vo has a larger battery doesn't necessarily mean that it will perform better. One thing many people don't realize is that gsm phones on average use a lot less juice than their cdma counter part so even though the evo has a larger battery it could still end up being worse than the sensation or the sgs2 but obviously I hope thats not the case.
 
themuffinman75 said:
Even though the 3vo has a larger battery doesn't necessarily mean that it will perform better. One thing many people don't realize is that gsm phones on average use a lot less juice than their cdma counter part so even though the evo has a larger battery it could still end up being worse than the sensation or the sgs2 but obviously I hope thats not the case.
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This reminds me of a question I have been meaning to ask. Are the published specs for talk and standby that variable? I understand that HTC can only take a shot at these figures and they most certainly will only publish the best case scenerio times, but if these published values are even remotely close, I will be more than happy with the 3vo battery life.
 
themuffinman75 said:
Even though the 3vo has a larger battery doesn't necessarily mean that it will perform better. One thing many people don't realize is that gsm phones on average use a lot less juice than their cdma counter part so even though the evo has a larger battery it could still end up being worse than the sensation or the sgs2 but obviously I hope thats not the case.
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While I agree that you can't draw any concrete conclusions but the earlier statement that the battery life of the SGS2 would be better than the E3D seems the opposite of what we do know so far.

Both the SGS2 and sensation are GSM phones. I would assume that people on this thread are trying to pick between Sprint phones which will always be CDMA... so if the E3D is compared to the sprint version of the SGS2 then the E3D should outdo the SGS2 based on what we know so far. This is assuming that the sprint version of the SGS2 is released with the same size battery as it's GSM equivalent. Which I believe is how Samsung handled things with the SGS.

And, GSM phone do typically have longer in-call battery life, the stand by times are typically equal or better on CDMA phones.
 
Why do you make this claim; my understanding is the amoled tends to be veyr low powered relative to conventional lcd variants; and the samsung processor likewise seems to be relatively low power relative to the snapdragon... so why do you think the evo3d will have better battery life ?

apinkel said:
While I agree that you can't draw any concrete conclusions but the earlier statement that the battery life of the SGS2 would be better than the E3D seems the opposite of what we do know so far.

Both the SGS2 and sensation are GSM phones. I would assume that people on this thread are trying to pick between Sprint phones which will always be CDMA... so if the E3D is compared to the sprint version of the SGS2 then the E3D should outdo the SGS2 based on what we know so far. This is assuming that the sprint version of the SGS2 is released with the same size battery as it's GSM equivalent. Which I believe is how Samsung handled things with the SGS.

And, GSM phone do typically have longer in-call battery life, the stand by times are typically equal or better on CDMA phones.
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you2 said:
Why do you make this claim; my understanding is the amoled tends to be veyr low powered relative to conventional lcd variants; and the samsung processor likewise seems to be relatively low power relative to the snapdragon... so why do you think the evo3d will have better battery life ?
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Jury's out on what the power profile of the newer RGB SAMOLD+ is, and same for this new 3vo display - and I don't know if Photon has older or newer or what there.

There's been one report published in a UK blog showing much better standby power duration on the Sensation over the SGS2. Can provide link if you've not seen that one.

Until we see this all tested on the 3vo, it's all speculation, imo.

PS - That Sensation battery claim is likely to be in one of these reviews, along with others that claimed opposite results -

http://androidforums.com/htc-sensation/337374-htc-sensation-reviews.html
 
The GSM S2 is a two day phone. The GSM Sensation is a one day+ phone. With CDMA and 4G, the Sprint models will see less performance than that.

The specs I read say that the Evo 3D is 30 fps for both 720p 2D and 3D, but 24fps for 1080p. The 1080p has higher resolution, but that's not as important as the higher encoding bitrate. Even on the S2, which can't actually display either HD resolution, the 1080p video looks nicer than the 720p because of the higher bitrates. I don't shoot a lot of video on my Evo because it's not very good quality. I bet I will be shooting tons of video on the S2.

The talk time and standby numbers should be taken with a grain of salt. Those are theoretical and not real world numbers. The numbers for the S2 are especially overinflated.
 
you2 said:
Why do you make this claim; my understanding is the amoled tends to be veyr low powered relative to conventional lcd variants; and the samsung processor likewise seems to be relatively low power relative to the snapdragon... so why do you think the evo3d will have better battery life ?
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The Amoled screens have better battery life in some situations. Specifically when displaying mostly black on screen. With mostly white they use more power than an equivalent LCD. So it's about a wash. Largley that was just some effective marketing by Samsung.

And, I say that because there are reviews out for both the sensation and the SGS2. The battery life was compared between the two and in one review they gave the edge to the SGS2, one they gave it to the sensation. So we can roughly say they have the same battery life.

So, if the E3D has a larger battery than the sensation but about the same hardware you can guesstimate that the E3D should, in theory out-perform the SGS2.
 
Cobravision said:
The specs I read say that the Evo 3D is 30 fps for both 720p 2D and 3D, but 24fps for 1080p. The 1080p has higher resolution, but that's not as important as the higher encoding bitrate. Even on the S2, which can't actually display either HD resolution, the 1080p video looks nicer than the 720p because of the higher bitrates. I don't shoot a lot of video on my Evo because it's not very good quality. I bet I will be shooting tons of video on the S2.
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The camera and camcorder quality is an area where I do think the SGS2 will win. I think the E3D is very good, but I do think the SGS2 is better, especially if 1080p is important to you.
 
Cobravision said:
The GSM S2 is a two day phone. The GSM Sensation is a one day+ phone. With CDMA and 4G, the Sprint models will see less performance than that.
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I'm going to nitpick a bit here... the title of the thread says if sprint released the SGS2 and E3D at the same time which would you choose. So battery life differences between GSM vs. CDMA don't matter since both phones would be CDMA.
 
I was wondering how much testing did Sprint do for the Photon 4G. It looks like the spec of the Bionic (except WiMax for LTE). There were rumors that the Bionic had heating issues along with a few others during Verizon's testings. I hope Sprint did a lot of test because that would be a bad deal if the Photon turns out to have these issues.
 
I have zero interest in the Photon. Outside of Tegra zone (for which I also have zero interest) there isn't a single thing about the Photon that isn't better on the 3d and S2.
 
So the evo3d/S2 will have better battery life; audio; antenna; durability or those things just aren't important to you ?

Cobravision said:
I have zero interest in the Photon. Outside of Tegra zone (for which I also have zero interest) there isn't a single thing about the Photon that isn't better on the 3d and S2.
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I have the EVO 4G. I've got my EVO 3D pre-order in at Best Buy, but that SGS2 is a sexy, sexy beast. I really want the NFC feature, so I can use Google Wallet. I'm very leary of Samsung and their issues.
Slow updates, signal issues. (So much time without a signal. Moment and Epic 4G). Upload speeds of the Epic 4G. Also the issue the Nexus S is currently having. I love everything else Samsung makes, except Android phones.
I really like that the EVO 3D will have 800 Mhz support.
Sorry, that I got off-topic! I'm gonna get the EVO 3D.

DECISIONS!!!!
 
you2 said:
So the evo3d/S2 will have better battery life; audio; antenna; durability or those things just aren't important to you ?
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For some minor differences above (which aren't even exclusive features), I should give up the 3D or SAMOLED+ screen?

Not mention the S2 is thinner and lighter, and can play back almost any codec natively including 1080p at any bitrate.

The 3D has Sense 3.0 and a shutter button.

The Photon can do international data roaming. I have no need for that. It has no other features the other phones don't have. That is why I have zero interest in it.
 
Cobravision said:
For some minor differences above (which aren't even exclusive features), I should give up the 3D or SAMOLED+ screen?

Not mention the S2 is thinner and lighter, and can play back almost any codec natively including 1080p at any bitrate.

The 3D has Sense 3.0 and a shutter button.

The Photon can do international data roaming. I have no need for that. It has no other features the other phones don't have. That is why I have zero interest in it.
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But what if the Photon ends up having the best audio system, reception and significantly better battery life? Would that change your mind?

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Btw the codec thing is overrated. It is not an andriod issue; if the player that comes with the system doesn't support the codec you desire; download another (moboplayer or (soon) vlc).
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No clue why folks talk up codec.
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Anyways I never remove a phone from consideration because it has a feature that doesn't interest me; but that's just me.
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Just trying to understand your position.
 
you2 said:
But what if the Photon ends up having the best audio system, reception and significantly better battery life? Would that change your mind?

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Btw the codec thing is overrated. It is not an andriod issue; if the player that comes with the system doesn't support the codec you desire; download another (moboplayer or (soon) vlc).
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No clue why folks talk up codec.
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Anyways I never remove a phone from consideration because it has a feature that doesn't interest me; but that's just me.
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Just trying to understand your position.
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I doubt that the audio and reception would be so significantly better on the Photon that it would be a deciding factor. And unless the battery lasts three or four days, which it won't, it's not going to be a big differentiator. None of these features are making consumers flock to Moto devices. I don't know why the Photon will be the audio/reception/battery powerhouse none of the its brethren are.

The codec thing is huge because with you don't have to re-encode files for the device. That's literally hundreds of hours a year saved from not having to re-encode files. With Tegra2 devices, you have to re-encode HD files to lower bitrates. Playing files with Rockplayer (which can't handle even 720p files) or VLC is not the same as using the native palyer -- the system player is the one that typically outputs via the HDMI port. And most of the "players" on the market are just skins for the default player. Plus, I use the system player on the Galaxy Tab, and it's got a lot of great features like screen lock, 4 way orientation, and bookmarking and auto-saving your place in the file. If you actually don't use the video player, then you might not get the codec thing. If you're used to wasting your time using Handbrake, you might not get the codec thing.

Removing a phone from consideration because the features don't interest me makes perfect logical sense. Why would I waste my time considering a phone I'm not interested in?
 
After watching the demo for the S2 it looks like a wonderful phone. One I'd be happy to own. But for now I'm an HTC fan and have not been dissapointed. The S2 is not enough to steal me away from HTC and Sense. I will get the flip version for my wife. Her Epic, while better on paper gives her far more problems than my EVO does me. Reception, gps, user friendliness just name a few. And HTC earned my loyal support with how they supported the 4G.

Love the S2 though.
 
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