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Iphone 4 battery makes me sad :(

makewayhomer said:
why is it that some people say that Android multitasking is so efficient and doesn't need task management, and other disagree?
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i wonder this as well. i mean, sure android will put apps into sleep mode or whatever, but it still will allow apps to constantly run in the background if thats how they are programmed. it takes a higher level of awareness of your apps to keep things in check.

plus why do apps open by themselves? why do task killers show my FM radio running all the time? i never use the thing
 
cygone said:
my own personal solution to 'battery problems' with all my previous 'smartphones' - of which there have been so many - has been simply to install numerous 'cradles' i.e. bedside, desks, living room, offices, because it is easier just to simply slip the device into a cradle than to replace a battery (removing the case, removing the cover, removing the battery, replacing the battery, charging the battery, carrying an extra battery...). previous cradles could charge spare batteries as well so that i always would have a spare battery handy, whether i am here in boston or dallas. i suppose this could be viewed as somwhat expensive but to me it is worth not having to worry about such things as 'a battery.' anyways, i don't have to carry extra batteries with me because of this setup. just as i don't have to carry anything with me when i travel between the northeast and dfw. i setup everything else the same way.
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Yeah, this works but if you go on an all day conference or on vacation when you are not near the hotel a bunch, it is tougher to do. These are times when my I-phone was used more than ever and appreciated. I am nervous about my upcoming vacation and some business trips I have but we'll see (crosses fingers).

For now the battery life and the app. store are the only things that are better on the I-phone. Those are just two BIG area's in my opinion.
 
slackfumasta said:
The INCs battery life is nothing short of terrible, guys. To try to pass off having to change batteries more often that you change your underwear is willfully ignoring a big shortcoming of the INC.

I love my INC, but the stock battery sucks. Sure, you can't replace the iPhone battery, but that doesn't make a difference because there's no need to replace it.

Yes, the iPhone 4 has a better screen, a front facing video camera, a larger battery, and records HD video. These are better specs than the INC. The INC is still a better phone for me because I've become a fan of Android after having the iPhone for a couple of years.

Everybody here needs to recognize that the INC is not for everybody, just as the iPhone is not for them. The new iPhone is a nice, sexy, powerful device, so it will be a success. Just don't take it personally, it's not an insult to INC users for somebody to buy the iPhone!
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Very well said. I don't know how some can justify the battery life on this thing. It's obvious they never owned an I-phone (and that's fine) but they aren't even close. I could stream for like two hours of music in the car, bunch of texts, and also a good amount of surfing and had zero issues.

I do half that on the Inc and I am in red mode.

The idea of switching the battery is laughable as well. Why in the world would you want to do that.
 
vasilator said:
Very well said. I don't know how some can justify the battery life on this thing. It's obvious they never owned an I-phone (and that's fine) but they aren't even close. I could stream for like two hours of music in the car, bunch of texts, and also a good amount of surfing and had zero issues.

I do half that on the Inc and I am in red mode.

The idea of switching the battery is laughable as well. Why in the world would you want to do that.
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Why wouldn't you want to do that? Is switching the battery an ideal solution? No, but I'm damn glad that I have the option if I want to.

I'm almost always near a charger so I can give my phone juice when it needs it. Would better battery life be better? Absolutely. I think people are fooling themselves if they say otherwise. I get by with my battery and I'm extremely happy with my Inc. That's all that really matters to me.
 
vasilator said:
Very well said. I don't know how some can justify the battery life on this thing. It's obvious they never owned an I-phone (and that's fine) but they aren't even close. I could stream for like two hours of music in the car, bunch of texts, and also a good amount of surfing and had zero issues.

I do half that on the Inc and I am in red mode.

The idea of switching the battery is laughable as well. Why in the world would you want to do that.
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Yesterday, I downloaded a 100MB audio file and listened to it for 2 hours, used GPS/Nav for about 20 minutes, played MP3s for about 30 minutes, sent/received tons of texts, nearly an hour of phone calls, lots of web surfing, took a few pics, and my battery was only in the yellow after I plugged it back in 22 hours after its last charge.

I also have the following widgets always running: full size calendar, Pandora, HTC Music, HTC Clock/Weather with animation, People Favorites, full size Bookmarks, and all the settings widgets (BT, GPS, WIFI, Mobile Network, Airplane Mode).

I'm just not seeing how that's not an acceptable battery life on a powerful smartphone.

Have you guys turned off auto-brightness and turned it down to about 30% (still very bright and I find adds a lot of battery life), turned off auto-sync for anything you don't use (for example, I don't need Facebook syncing every hour so I made it once per day), and ensured you don't have apps installed that never shut off?
 
vasilator said:
The idea of switching the battery is laughable as well. Why in the world would you want to do that.
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Laughable? I'll tell you what's laughable. My friend has an iPhone that she needs for work. She has an add-on battery that attaches to the phone so she can get through the day. The combined weight makes my organic chem book look like a sheet of paper. That's laughable. Yeah, yeah the 4i claims to have better battery life. Yeah, yeah. Come on dude, these are smart phones. The batteries are not that great if you hammer it. So you have a charger around if you can and another battery if you need. Oh, that's right, you can't swap your battery. Oops.. sorry.
 
Sure the Inc battery could be better, but I'd rather have this than a locked down battery that god forbid something goes wrong and I would have to take down to Att/Apple to have it replaced.

As far as apps running on their own, i noticed that apps with shortcuts on the desktop tend to remain open (is this just for the shortcut? not too sure.). They are in a cached (inactive) state so should not consume too much power.

Either way having seen screenshots of the Iphone 4, their home screens that look the same as in 07' , their recent removal and prohibition on widgets and any other program that doesn't play by 'Jobs rules, their fragile made out of glass construction, and everything else about that closed system (not to mention at&t and their new philosophy of charging by the gigabyte when they know that these new phones are multimedia hogs), i think ill be sticking with my droid inc and verizon for a while
 
I've used my Inc and when go to father's house tested his iPhone and talked to him about his use. It doesn't last a day and have found that my Inc had outlasted his 3gs sometimes.

iPhone battery (like all smart phones) isn't great and you can't replace it in an emergency situation which is a disaster.

Buyers are finding that the device has trouble making it through a workday without a rest stop at the electrical outlet:

IPhone 3GS owners bemoan its battery life - Los Angeles Times

"The new, high-octane iPhone 3GS is loaded with features that could light up your life -- but its battery isn't one of them.

Buyers are finding that the device, introduced two weeks ago, has trouble making it through a workday without a rest stop at the electrical outlet. It's proving to be something of an Achilles' heel on Apple Inc.'s flagship device, more than 1 million of which were sold in the first weekend.

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Even the company suggests on its website that users disable some of the phone's most vaunted features, including the faster 3G network itself, to keep it from shutting down during the day."

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However, no smartphone has great battery life unless you are above 2000 mah so we are all in the same boat - they have relatively same battery life. However, it is nice that you can do a lot more on the Incredible than you can on the closed iPhone.

:)
 
MisterMixelpix said:
Hell, buy six. Then you can swap 'em out every few hours. How's that working on them iPhones?
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I gotta say, and I might be in the minority on this one, carrying around a spare battery is a total PIA. I will never do it. So to me, this knock on the Iphone because you cant swap out the battery is totally overrated. The only reason, on the INC, to access the battery is to replace it with a higher capacity one. I wont go to an oversized battery so those are my choices. At least Apple gives you a days worth of juice, for the most part.

And also, for the record, my Iphone 3GS lasted as long as the Inc with the 1750 battery. I am hopefully for a software fix on this charging bug.
 
after owning both the 3g and 3gs iphone, I can definitely say the iphone had better battery life than my incredible, even with the seidio battery. In standby my incredible can not get more than 36 hours. I could get over 3 days with the iphone.

Something is wrong with the incredible, plain and simple. I finally understood that when my buddy got his EVO. With 4g on and the bigger screen, it was still getting way better battery life.

We just need to hope that we all get an update real soon, cuz this is ridiculous..
 
SeattleYanksFan said:
Yesterday, I downloaded a 100MB audio file and listened to it for 2 hours, used GPS/Nav for about 20 minutes, played MP3s for about 30 minutes, sent/received tons of texts, nearly an hour of phone calls, lots of web surfing, took a few pics, and my battery was only in the yellow after I plugged it back in 22 hours after its last charge.

I also have the following widgets always running: full size calendar, Pandora, HTC Music, HTC Clock/Weather with animation, People Favorites, full size Bookmarks, and all the settings widgets (BT, GPS, WIFI, Mobile Network, Airplane Mode).

I'm just not seeing how that's not an acceptable battery life on a powerful smartphone.

Have you guys turned off auto-brightness and turned it down to about 30% (still very bright and I find adds a lot of battery life), turned off auto-sync for anything you don't use (for example, I don't need Facebook syncing every hour so I made it once per day), and ensured you don't have apps installed that never shut off?
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That really isn't a ton of use but your facebook sync idea, brightness to 30%, and the apps suggestion could make a difference so I will definitely try as I am not getting that much use on my phone. The thing that gets me more than anything is the standby battery use. That is what amazes me the most.
 
bjanow said:
Laughable? I'll tell you what's laughable. My friend has an iPhone that she needs for work. She has an add-on battery that attaches to the phone so she can get through the day. The combined weight makes my organic chem book look like a sheet of paper. That's laughable. Yeah, yeah the 4i claims to have better battery life. Yeah, yeah. Come on dude, these are smart phones. The batteries are not that great if you hammer it. So you have a charger around if you can and another battery if you need. Oh, that's right, you can't swap your battery. Oops.. sorry.
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I get what your saying but swapping out a battery for me is a PIA. I can tell you that I used my I-phone rather heavy for work as well and use my INC the same and the battery was MUCH better with the I-phone.

I will admit that yes smart phones are going to use up some juice when you hammer them no doubt. I actually was rather disappointed in my I-phone battery until I started with the INC.
 
vasilator said:
That really isn't a ton of use but your facebook sync idea, brightness to 30%, and the apps suggestion could make a difference so I will definitely try as I am not getting that much use on my phone. The thing that gets me more than anything is the standby battery use. That is what amazes me the most.
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Look, I don't really feel like arguing, which is why I'm not going to respond to OP anymore, but you said "[On an iPhone,] I could stream for like two hours of music in the car, bunch of texts, and also a good amount of surfing and had zero issues. I do half that on the Inc and I am in red mode". In comparison, what I posted is a "ton of use," and it lasted 11x as long.

I'm trying to be helpful here, not create an argument. Perhaps I got lucky with a special battery, but I really think some people getting poor battery life are doing nothing to help extend it. I don't think you should have to cripple your phone to get respectable battery life, but I also don't consider anything I do crippling the phone.

And you said what I did was not a ton of use, but that is just what I did in a 5 hour period. Believe me, I did plenty more that I did not list there the other 17 hours (except for the 7 hours I was asleep).

And also, I realize the battery meter says Standby uses so much battery percentage, but I don't buy that's accurate. I usually charge my phone around 8pm so it's charged before I go to sleep at like 11pm. When I wake up, I've never not had all 10 bars, even though the phone was in standby.
 
makewayhomer said:
I have the Seido. it increased my time by 30%. Iphone 4 battery is still at least 300% as good. 300%!!! thats a lot.
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I never got what Apple said I should for my iPods. But you missed what I said. You have the Seidio. But you also have your red HTC battery that came with the phone. Those two combined will get you up there with the iPhone. The iPhone 3GS is supposed to get battery life that's way better than the Incredible, too, but my friend has one and his is always at 80% by the time I see him in the morning, which is about 3 hours after he takes it off the charger.

Take advantage of the Incredible's ability to swap batteries.
 
Just got Verizon to give me 75% off an extended life battery for my DInc (comes out to about $16 after tax). Now they just need to get the damn thing in stock LOL
 
Hi. My battery sucks and I have an Incredible. I know why my battery sucks, though.

I send texts, lots of texts. I play games, lots of games. Sometimes I get interrupted from my games... by texts. Sometimes I run a whole bunch of random stuff and have things turned on all over the place. I find it hard to get through my day without charging my battery... because I rarely stop using my phone.

I don't care about iPhone batteries, at all. They go into a phone that they spend millions upon millions of dollars to develop. This phone was engineered and designed with different hardware and internals to get good battery life. Apple knew that Android was doing well and there were lots of great phones. They spent a lot of time and money on this phone. Yes, it's gonna be awesome, has some nice specs and some overblown info. Big deal. Give it 3 months and there will be a better, faster, sexier phone. That is how the industry works and how tech moves now.

We are all limited by batteries, because we want to do so much and do it so fast. Unless you start slapping 3000mAh bricks onto the backs of these things you just aren't going to get the results you want. My first portal DVD player was something like a 4 inch screen and got 4-5 hours of play time. I've now basically got the same thing, that fits into my pocket and also makes phone calls, browses the internet and acts like a mini gaming center. IT'S AMAZING, not sad.

Don't let those fruit assholes get you all upset, it's just another mediocre device that is bring old stuff to the masses. We all benefit and it will drive the industry to do bigger and better things. I don't have iEnvy in the slightest. Apple can suck my banana.
 
The whole premise of this thread seems off. Who reads a press release and buys it hook, line and sinker? Wait until the iPhone 4 is out, go test it, let people review it after they've had it a month. If it ends up being a better phone and you don't like your phone, then switch. Not complicated.

I love my Inc, I started loving it even more once I got the Seidio 1750 battery. I love having the option of an extra battery for my phone in my laptop bag. Although, I have no problem understanding why someone would consider that a pain in the butt. To each their own.
 
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