jamor
Android Expert
What is the FM Tuner bug? I searched couldn't find it.
Curious because I was going to start using it.
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Iphone 4 battery makes me sad :(
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What is the FM Tuner bug? I searched couldn't find it.
Curious because I was going to start using it.
woop
novacane (OFWGKTA)
Definitely agreed. Being a early adopter will always have its perks but will come with some baggage. An OTA and then afterwards, Froyo, would be awesome.
I don't think you're getting the point. You essentially just said what I did. There are so many factors involved in battery life that ratings are very ambiguous for the reasons you just claimed: a controlled environment. As I listed earlier, things such as heat and radio signal strength play roles, whereas these are typically not accounted for in a controlled environment. So, unless you plan on living in a perfectly temperate room, with full signal, and a constantly mid-range use never putting any stress on the CPU, then you can obtain the rating they claim. This is the reason why media outlets cannot comment on ratings, as inaccurate as they are, because they ARE true - to a certain extent. That extent is basically not living in a real world environment. Unfortunately for us, most are in that real world environment.
makewayhomer
Android Enthusiast
I understand all that. but there are plenty of real world scenarios that are "controlled enough" that it's very easy for me to test
IE: on a 7 hour plane ride, in airplane mode, playing video. this is both a real world scenario & fairly controlled. or lying in bed using WIFI - this is basically controlled and real world as well. these are both use cases where my DINC gets killed by my old Iphone, and crushed even worse by Iphone 4.
these are both real world scenarios that are easy enough to test. are they scientific tests that could be published in journals? no, but they are close enough that it's easy to tell if the stated claims are "pretty accurate or not"
SeattleYanksFan
Android Expert
Just to make you feel better, (1) you NEVER get the amount of battery life a company claims (no, not even Apple), and (2) you must have some settings you can adjust because I can browse for way more than 2 hours before killing my battery on 3G (not even talking about wifi, which is the iPhone stat you mentioned).
MisterMixelpix
Android Expert
Hell, buy six. Then you can swap 'em out every few hours. How's that working on them iPhones?
golfinglenn
Well-Known Member
I was very disappointed when I got my Itouch2 and called foul on their battery claims. Then I did some research and the claim was that it would play music for 24 hours or something like that and I was only getting a couple at best playing games and such. Well, turned on itunes with a full charge and sure enough, overnight it only lost about 10% battery.
I understand people are disappointed with battery life, but like others have said, with what these phones do you can't expect them not to use lots of power. Ebay got me 2 spare 1500mah batteries and a wall charger to charge them in. Battery is not an issue anymore as I can throw a fully charged one in at any time. It also charges the batteries at a slower rate (easier on them), and they get a FULL charge, not like using the phone charger to charge them to 90%. Not a bad investment for $16 shipped.
I understand people are disappointed with battery life, but like others have said, with what these phones do you can't expect them not to use lots of power. Ebay got me 2 spare 1500mah batteries and a wall charger to charge them in. Battery is not an issue anymore as I can throw a fully charged one in at any time. It also charges the batteries at a slower rate (easier on them), and they get a FULL charge, not like using the phone charger to charge them to 90%. Not a bad investment for $16 shipped.
brettlewis
Android Expert
its best to wait and see. you can beet engadget will test the claims. att's data claims were way off so lets see how things work out.
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Every smartphone has its trade-offs. If the iPhone is a better fit for your needs, by all means, sell your Inc and go get an iPhone.
To me a smartphone, first and foremost, must be a good phone. That means not dropping calls at every turn or hearing the constant echo of my own voice. Unfortunately, the iPhone is hobbled by a crappy network in my area. I also much prefer the ability to change my battery, increase storage capacity at will, and take part in an open ecosystem. So, yeah I'll take the trade-off in battery life and plug it in every night before I go to bed. Not a biggie, relatively speaking.
To me a smartphone, first and foremost, must be a good phone. That means not dropping calls at every turn or hearing the constant echo of my own voice. Unfortunately, the iPhone is hobbled by a crappy network in my area. I also much prefer the ability to change my battery, increase storage capacity at will, and take part in an open ecosystem. So, yeah I'll take the trade-off in battery life and plug it in every night before I go to bed. Not a biggie, relatively speaking.
makewayhomer
Android Enthusiast
exchangeable batteries is nice, agreed
I would certainly rather not have to carry around 2 batteries of course.
for some common use cases, like plane rides, it is easy to do
I would certainly rather not have to carry around 2 batteries of course.
for some common use cases, like plane rides, it is easy to do
I would never say a battery that can't be changed is better then one that can. I just came off a 3gs and it lasted about 12 hours of my normal use. the DI with the 1750 battery is lasting really close to the same.
SeattleYanksFan
Android Expert
I think the word "shame" is bit strong. Let's see real world stats before we judge.
I use my Incredible a lot and it never lasts me less than 24 hours. I don't see the iPhone 4 beating that by much.
makewayhomer
Android Enthusiast
the real world "stats" for the Iphone 4.0 are published. if you think they are calling BS, then ok, but as I stated above I have never found them to be false in my testing.
as in my signature, you can do some simple testing.
put a video on your DINC. play it for 4 hours. note how much of your battery was killed, % wise. even better, play it from 100% until dead.
compare to Iphone 4.0
MisterMixelpix
Android Expert
What else will be running at the time? Signal strength? It's not a controlled experiment unless ALL variables are equal.
By my count, that means airplane mode with no widgets or other apps running, and simply a video running on the stock player at 50% volume and brightness. After you do that, let's see what's up.
NoNoBadDog
Member
Apples claimed battery life figures are as bogus as anyone else, if not worse. They test with everything off, screen brightness turned down to an unacceptable level, etc. Real world use will show that it will be no better than the DInc.
makewayhomer
Android Enthusiast
agreed
I have done it and compared to my old Iphone and Ipod touch, results in my sig
the DINC battery comes up well, well short
barrister89
Member
I am quite satisfied with my Inc but please tell me why I should shell out for an aftermarket or extended battery when I pd. $299 for the phone. As much as I love my Inc, HTC should publicly acknowlege they underpowered the phone and send all of us at least a 1500 ma battery free of cost.
BTW, most reviews of the iPad state that actual battery life exceeds Apple's specs.
HTC makes a decent product and the Inc has excellent power management. But it has been conclusively documented on this forum that the 1300 ma battery is inadequate for the average user.
azgunz
Well-Known Member
god forbid there be a better phone than the droid incredible.
Seriously guys? Im honestly done with this forum because its so bias and full of bullsh*t.
It helps NO ONE when every opinion goes "oh so it has this? well i can do this to my incredible and now its soo much better."
Was one of you serious by saying the Inc. was better because when the battery died you could put in a new one and continue?! You shouldn't have to!
I am not bias towards Apple AT ALL, nor any other product.
Im honest too, this has to be THE only forum I have seen that is this bias. Terrible.
Seriously guys? Im honestly done with this forum because its so bias and full of bullsh*t.
It helps NO ONE when every opinion goes "oh so it has this? well i can do this to my incredible and now its soo much better."
Was one of you serious by saying the Inc. was better because when the battery died you could put in a new one and continue?! You shouldn't have to!
I am not bias towards Apple AT ALL, nor any other product.
Im honest too, this has to be THE only forum I have seen that is this bias. Terrible.
Vihzel
Destroying Balls Everyday
I'm sorry... but LMAO. Who would actually surf for 10 hours on a phone?
MisterMixelpix
Android Expert
You don't have a sig.
makewayhomer
Android Enthusiast
makewayhomer
Android Enthusiast
MisterMixelpix
Android Expert
If this is the only forum you've ever seen that kind of bias, you've obviously never been on any other forum ever.
I can say, with absolute certainty, that this doesn't come CLOSE to iPhone fanboyism. Nor does it touch "360 is better than PS3" or "PS3 is better than 360" fanboyism. Neither of which can touch "Linux/Windows/Mac is better than Mac/Linux/Windows" fanboyism.
As an addendum, the fact remains that if your sole reason for scrapping the Inc is the battery considering the relative ease by which you can get around the issue (seriously, you can snag a spare for cheap and just throw it in your wallet), then by all means move on. Me, I think the DEVICE is far superior, and the knock in battery life is fine by me.
I can say, with absolute certainty, that this doesn't come CLOSE to iPhone fanboyism. Nor does it touch "360 is better than PS3" or "PS3 is better than 360" fanboyism. Neither of which can touch "Linux/Windows/Mac is better than Mac/Linux/Windows" fanboyism.
As an addendum, the fact remains that if your sole reason for scrapping the Inc is the battery considering the relative ease by which you can get around the issue (seriously, you can snag a spare for cheap and just throw it in your wallet), then by all means move on. Me, I think the DEVICE is far superior, and the knock in battery life is fine by me.
azgunz
Well-Known Member
lol, I am on PLENTY of forums. Cars, guns, phones, camera, etc. I have seen bias, and it has not been to this point. even the car forums are not as bias lol.
I agree with you on the device being such the way it is that I overlook the battery. Though I am disappointed