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Iphone 4 vs HTC Incredible

I will return my Dinc in the 30 day trial, for the iphone, mainly because iphone 4 has video chat, a much better screen in sunlight (for golf gps), and a better video camera. I agree the Dinc in general is far better than all iphones except the iphone 4.
The Dinc wins on Google nav, google sky maps, high quality itunes during 3g (iphone 4 cannot do this), and most importantly, SWYPE. I truly will miss swype. No swype close to a deal killer on the iphone.
 
I will return my Dinc in the 30 day trial, for the iphone, mainly because iphone 4 has video chat, a much better screen in sunlight (for golf gps), and a better video camera. I agree the Dinc in general is far better than all iphones except the iphone 4.
The Dinc wins on Google nav, google sky maps, high quality itunes during 3g (iphone 4 cannot do this), and most importantly, SWYPE. I truly will miss swype. No swype close to a deal killer on the iphone.

Ouch... Too bad I guess you haven't heard of Fring... Free video chat ON 3G or WiFi....
 
Interesting thought I had: You will find many Google apps on an Apple iPhone, but you will not find and Apple Apps on a Google phone...and this is why any Apple product fails in my book. They will take from the Open Source community, but they give nothing in return..
 
Interesting thought I had: You will find many Google apps on an Apple iPhone, but you will not find and Apple Apps on a Google phone...and this is why any Apple product fails in my book. They will take from the Open Source community, but they give nothing in return..

But you are talking about Google "brand" apps, right? Like Google search, Google Earth, etc...?
 
Yes, I see google plastered across my iPhone 3G all the time. Haven't spotted a single Apple logo yet on my Inc. ;)

Ahh I gotcha...

I am really asking this question, cause my only exposure to Apple has been my Ipod... Does Apple have "Apps" for things or are they all 3rd party in the App Store? :o
 
Interesting thought I had: You will find many Google apps on an Apple iPhone, but you will not find and Apple Apps on a Google phone...and this is why any Apple product fails in my book. They will take from the Open Source community, but they give nothing in return..

That isn't quite true. Apple uses and contributes to open source in sectors where it benefits them. Webkit is a fork of KHTML (The HTML layout engine designed by the KDE team), and is currently one of the best (if not the best) of its class.

Google's operating cash flow is funded primarily through Adsense and related advertising programs. As such, Google wants to open up its services to the largest audience possible in order to increase ad exposure. Apple, on the other hand, sells hardware. They want their software to work only on their proprietary hardware--as it helps them sell product.

Further, the reason that Microsoft monopolized the OS market a number of years ago is the same reason Apple didn't: Apple innovated, Microsoft copied. Innovation allows for a very short window of potential arbitrage and the cost of technological innovation can get quite high.
 
A friend of mine just got his IPhone 4 and the first thing he mentioned was how great the screen looked. After I showed him my DInc screen at 75% brightness, the big smile dissappeared from his face. Also the DInc's BIGGER screen looked far more impressive. Made the IPhone look tiny by comparison.

I have a Incredible and an iPhone 4 with me now. I will post pictures in a few hours. The difference is NIGHT and DAY depending on what camp you belong to. I'll let the pictures speak for themselves.

This is what I see ( I see the same thing Engadget is seeing when they compare the Galaxy S which has Super-Amoled).

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In fact the red fringing you see on the iPhone is a lens anomaly on their cheap camera. I'll shoot with a $900 lens that doesn't have chromatic abberations. You won't see little or no red fringing on my photos.


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Next, Either HTC/Google has a crappy Youtube player or the "verizon/htc" stated 16-bit color depth shows some serious artificating in video and images., but the iPhone 4 blows away the Incredible playing HD trailers like tron in youtube. (Yes, I put the Incredible on High). I also downloaded the original files but they won't play on the INC but they will play on the iPhone. iPhone will play high bitrate 720p H.264 mp4 files with no problems whatsoever. So, the high-end video playback comparison is only limited to youtube.

The HTC does have the deeper saturation, reds and colors. But they appear too warm/hot. The 3.7 screen advantage is NILL because the text is so sharp on the iPhone it doesn't matter. Going to nytimes.com on both, the iPhone appears to be like paper. Text that appears to be 6 points is readable.

I'll take pictures and I'll film it; showing that I set the brightness up on the Incredible at 100%; showing I set youtube to wifi and HD playback. If someone wants to host the raw source files, I will provide them too so there is no doubt any comparison is rigged.

Then I'll let you guys decide. The pictures Engadget are 100% accurate: This is exactly what I see:



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Now, browser comparisons will be hard because of the different font-rendering on both browsers. iPhone you can't change. Incredible, if you set the text to small, it is too small. If you set to medium or large, it is too large. So, there is no real direct font-size browser comparison possible. Incredible will either re-wrap the text. Dolphin and Skyfire will do the same. Hence, the reason people judge the picture above as questionable. Also in that NYTime example they posted, the iPhone has a full font set - Serif, San-Serif, Times Roman,etc. HTC will substitute the font and that is why some of the text wraps. Safari's browser supports more fonts.
 
I was able to use a friends iphone for a few minutes today. Here are my impressions:

- Great screen, and without taking off my screen protector I could not tell if it was better than the inc but appeared to be due to the resolution. It was also very bright and I expect better in direct sunlight.
- Nice size and about the exact same size as the INC
- Heavier than the inc, but with a nice solid feel
- Very smooth design, but apple has this down to a science, the device just looks professional

All in all a very nice phone, though I would never own one due to itunes and AT&T. In my opinion the INC is still the phone to have. The new driods are still Motorola, and like the evo just too big for a phone in my opinion. The iphone and INC are in my opinion the perfect size.
 
Thought that it was very elegantly designed, but ultimately, boring. Great apps, but the phone itself has all the technological fun factor as the freezer in my garage.
Screen just did not 'pop' like it does on my phone. He had to turn up his brightness all the way to even get close to the DInc at 75%. Still, it was not as contrasty.
I hope Apple sells a gazillion of these things, though. I own a lot of their stock! HA!

...and, it doesn't have a cool moniker like the DInc. You can play with your friends iPhone, but only a select few can touch your
 
We see your point but who actually zoom in THAT much while reading news?
you don't have to zoom in to see the difference.

Just go to The New York Times - Breaking News, World News & Multimedia and put the browser in full page mode; showing the whole page. You literally don't need to pinch-in. The small text that was once blurry is in fact readable.

In the TRON HD trailer, the quarter rolling on the floor , you can see the details of the eagle in the back just watching youtube. The point in the video is 00:50.

And when you do zoom in, you'll notice the red/purple fringing on the Incredible due to the Pentile Matrix sub-rendering algorithm that HTC uses on the DINC and Nexus One.
 
Next, Either HTC/Google has a crappy Youtube player or the "verizon/htc" stated 16-bit color depth shows some serious artificating in video and images., but the iPhone 4 blows away the Incredible playing HD trailers like tron in youtube. (Yes, I put the Incredible on High). I also downloaded the original files but they won't play on the INC but they will play on the iPhone. iPhone will play high bitrate 720p H.264 mp4 files with no problems whatsoever. So, the high-end video playback comparison is only limited to youtube.

I am switching from Dinc to iphone 4, but sadly the 4 cannot play youtube videos in "high quality" in 3g, only in wifi. So, youtube on iphone unwatchable using 3g, while spectacular on Dinc.
 
Ouch... Too bad I guess you haven't heard of Fring... Free video chat ON 3G or WiFi....

Fring failed miserably to work on my Dinc; I just could not figure out how to video chat using Fring/Dinc/Skype. If anyone has a tutorial, I am all ears....
 
The screen on the iphone 4 is quite nice IMO; text looks beautiful due to the high resolution. I only got to play with one for a short while yesterday when a coworker got his.

I actually liked the screen better on the iphone than on the Inc, but that's probably because I have a crappy anti-glare screen protector on mine. I've been waiting for my steinheil CC ones to show up for like three weeks I think.

Other than that, the iphone 4 just felt like, well, an iphone. Same home screen style, same browser, same icons, same everything except limited multitasking. Definitely wasn't much of a game-changer the way the Android phones in the past year have been.

The front facing video camera was nice though.

Yeah that anti glare screen protector kinda makes the screen look weird, but it's not that bad that I'd get rid of it. It has a nice feel to it, keeps the prints off, and I can see better in direct sunlight.
 
I'm the same as you, I didn't even know about the Incredible until searching for Verizon Iphone rumors then saw an article for the Incredible and after looking into it more I jumped on it and don't regret it at all. The only thing that I really want on the Incredible is a front facing camera so I can video chat.

Now with that said if an Iphone comes to VZW and it blows my mind I'll jump from the Android bandwagon, same goes for the W7 phones.

***IMO Iphone looks so much sexier than the DInc though

Haha, that is EXACTLY how I got my Incredible. A very good jump from my old Samsung flip phone. I would like to say it's better than the iPhone 4, but in reality it really isn't until they get some actual apps. The iPhone looks ten times sweeter as well.
 
I rather the iphone 3Gs looks over the iPhone 4. Also has anyone thought about how uncomfortable those sharp edges will be on extended calls or holding it in your hand for extended times? A case will be needed or that bumper they give you at the Apple store.
 
I am switching from Dinc to iphone 4, but sadly the 4 cannot play youtube videos in "high quality" in 3g, only in wifi. So, youtube on iphone unwatchable using 3g, while spectacular on Dinc.

I checked and you are 100% correct about that. Kind of bummer.
Even on 3G, the DINC toolk about 16 minutes to download HQ file of a trailer.

So it seems I can't make a fair comparison with youtube because the DINC can't even go past 480p on 3G or WIFI. (I downloaded all the files).
The IP4 can play all the way up to 720p on wifi. And it is impressive. If you send yourself the link, you can play HD via 3G. So it is the limitation of the youtube app.

If you point Safari to any 720p file, it will play. I guess that is why S. Jobs wants to go to HTML5. It will play regardless. Heck, even I can write a HTML5 app that pulls youtube HD files. So, there is definitely a work-around with the youtube app on IP4. See vimeo as an example, it will play HQ files in the browser via HTML5 ON 3G.

The DINC, can't play a decent 720p H.264 period. I got it to play testing with my own file but it was extremely low at 15 fps.

You just have to hold the phone an inch away from your face to tell the difference.

That is a maligned distortion of the truth. Even with bad eye-sight, I can see the difference 7-8 inches away.
Co-workers with good vision can see the difference 10-12 inches away.
 
Lame. The guy is an iPhone user. Couldnt even find the home button on the incredible.
He thought the browser was better on the iPhone 4 when it loaded SLOWER than the Incredible and the incredible had tons more data. The screens weren't even close. Tons of flash animations going on the Incredible, all missing from the iPhone 4.
And he clearly realize how much better Android is when zooming into text in the browser. The iPhone does NOT zoom in anywhere near as well as the Incredible. Again its not even close.

I've used the iPhone for 2 years and Incredible for a month. The Incredible easily wins. Hands down.
 
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