Perceptions are very different. Having to put the phone in & out of airplane mode would be a royal issue for me and one I wouldn't appreciate. Fortunately I don't have to do that with the Nexus. I was surprised when I had the Razr that its radio didn't outperform the Nexus.
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January 15th- Deadline mass exodus
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Perceptions are very different. Having to put the phone in & out of airplane mode would be a royal issue for me and one I wouldn't appreciate. Fortunately I don't have to do that with the Nexus. I was surprised when I had the Razr that its radio didn't outperform the Nexus.
pragmatous
Android Enthusiast
I returned my nexus for the rezound and I couldn't be happier. I absolutely love the rezound. It just feels like a high quality phone, has the signal of a high quality phone, and has the camera of a high quality phone. The display is very nice - way better than the nexus. The speaker blows away the one in the nexus.
I'm not sure on battery yet because I just got it yesterday.
My only regret is not getting the rezound to begin with. I do miss ICS tho but It'll get it soon.
I'm not sure on battery yet because I just got it yesterday.
My only regret is not getting the rezound to begin with. I do miss ICS tho but It'll get it soon.
redraptor
Android Enthusiast
Normally it would bother me a hell of a lot too but its not THAT big of a deal, although it does continually get more irritating the more I do it.
My biggest concern now with the Nexus is the signal. I hear NOTHING but bad things. The camera was a big deal breaker but after having the razr and comparing its photos to the nexus(online comparisons), the nexus looks a hell of a lot better
My biggest concern now with the Nexus is the signal. I hear NOTHING but bad things. The camera was a big deal breaker but after having the razr and comparing its photos to the nexus(online comparisons), the nexus looks a hell of a lot better
I agree about the camera, the signal, but the display...no way. I also find the Nexus to be the most trouble-free phone I've ever had. No reboots, no overheating, no issues other than the marginal signal area issues.
I really liked the Rezound, but I was never in love with Sense. ICS is so much smoother and more 'to the point' IMO.
Yeah, the signal thing needs to be addressed. Once that's done (hopefully it's not hardware as I fear), the phone will be 100%.
pragmatous
Android Enthusiast
I dunno at low to no brightness on TWO nexus phones there was banding. My second nexus also had a purple hue to it. Two phones with defective screens in a row or is just normal to the phone?
I get my HTC rezound and zero problems. I even get better signal, better wifi signal, better speaker - I can hear people like how they should have sounded, I have no banding or display defects on my phone whatsoever, and the rezound has grip. I don't feel like I'm going to drop my phone all the time.
If you don't like sense just root it and de-sense it. There's a tool for that.
I get my HTC rezound and zero problems. I even get better signal, better wifi signal, better speaker - I can hear people like how they should have sounded, I have no banding or display defects on my phone whatsoever, and the rezound has grip. I don't feel like I'm going to drop my phone all the time.
If you don't like sense just root it and de-sense it. There's a tool for that.
Sports1131
Newbie
I'm still undecided but leaning towards returning it. I absolutely love the phone but I get terrible reception in places that should be pretty strong. I'd be more than willing to wait if I knew a fix was coming, but given that all Verizon has committed to is artificially raising the number of bars being displayed I'm not optimistic and I don't think I can risk constantly losing my data connection for the next two years.
I'm travelling to the Berkshires this week and will make my final judgment based on the reception I get there. If not, it looks like I'll be back to the Droid as I'm not the least bit excited by the Razr or Rezound.
I'm travelling to the Berkshires this week and will make my final judgment based on the reception I get there. If not, it looks like I'll be back to the Droid as I'm not the least bit excited by the Razr or Rezound.
William T Riker
Android Enthusiast
Sounds exactly like my Bionic. It's usually bad to me when it handsoff from 4G to 3G. My Nexus hasn't had this issue at all.
crankerchick
Android Enthusiast
Rooting the Rezound and running a ROM with much of Sense stripped away is still not the same as running vanilla android, let alone vanilla android optimized to play nicely with the hardware it's running on. Plus, root is not for everyone. Some people, even on a forum like this, just want to buy the phone and use it, they don't want to root and ROM it to make it into the phone they want it to be.
crankerchick
Android Enthusiast
Have you considered an exchange? If you aren't in a weak signal area and your 3G signal strength is a lot lower than other 3G phones, I would consider an exchange rather than a complaint because to me that is unacceptable and not normal. I compared my nexus and he display nexus in the store with every other display phone in the store for 3g strength and LTE speeds and they all read the same. I actually did this on 2 different visits because I'm obsessed. I've compared to my husband's thunderbolt in all kinds of conditions and my friend's Razr and Rezound because he has both and even in weaker areas we all read similar 3G strengths. Even in weak areas my phone doesn't get hot. Sounds like you may need a swap if you are considering an exodus before the 15th.
As for my battery, I've done tests overnight in airplane, LTE and WiFi and had as low as 1-2.5% per hour battery drain depending on the test condition. I did have google sync turned off though, so i should do the tests again with that enabled. Maybe my battery is working as it should and I'm just paranoid.
pragmatous
Android Enthusiast
You won't get your NE2 discount back. You'll have to fight for for your discount if you choose to upgrade 5 months from now and it becomes a hassle.
I will say I went to rezound and I'm very very happy with it compared to the nexus.
I will say I went to rezound and I'm very very happy with it compared to the nexus.
I'm still undecided but leaning towards returning it. I absolutely love the phone but I get terrible reception in places that should be pretty strong. I'd be more than willing to wait if I knew a fix was coming, but given that all Verizon has committed to is artificially raising the number of bars being displayed I'm not optimistic and I don't think I can risk constantly losing my data connection for the next two years.
I'm travelling to the Berkshires this week and will make my final judgment based on the reception I get there. If not, it looks like I'll be back to the Droid as I'm not the least bit excited by the Razr or Rezound.
Sports1131
Newbie
I've already been to the Verizon store once to complain about the signal and the tech recommended I wait until the 15th. I asked what would happen if I was still having a problem and he said I could either exchange or return it. He assured me that if I return it my discount would be returned and it would be like I never did anything.
I have my doubts that it would be a smooth transaction, but if I'm returning a device because of poor reception I better get my upgrade back, my $100 discount, and not have to pay a restocking fee. I WANT to keep this phone -- I just can't if I don't get a good connection and I think that's the whole point of Verizon's "worry free" return policy.
pragmatous
Android Enthusiast
When I went to the verizon store to return the nexus they told me I wouldn't get my NE2 back and 5 months from now if I wanted to upgrade I would have to fight for my discounts.
*shrug - whatever I'm happy with the rezound.
*shrug - whatever I'm happy with the rezound.
Been back at work and haven't had much chance to read forums but appreciate the reply. One aspect of any forum is the genuine sharing of information and willingness to help one another. This thread and others helped me view my phone logically and objectively.
I truly loved the phone, ICS, the large screen etc. I don't think my phone was defective else a swap would have happened. The warm battery I think was largely due to it searching for a signal. This while on a nice 4 lane highway and we had a Droid global in the car which had no 3G issues. But the measured dbm on both phones was greatly different.
In the Verizon store my nexus was within 10 db of the razr and rezound (3G and 4G modes). Still, it was always the lowest but it matched their nexus pretty closely. There is always the possibility of a simple QC issue where some phones are just better. Doubtful but possible.
I returned my Nexus Sunday and exchanged it for a Rezound. My overall impressions thus far as (a) I like the Nexus phone better in terms of the screen size, the OS, and just the display in general (b) other than that the rezound is far better than was my nexus around home, at work, etc. At work my rezound can connect via 3G while the nexus at best was doing 1X. Around town I am holding 4G in areas I could only get 3G with the nexus. My readings in 4G are about 18-20 dbm better with the rezound, same in 3G only mode.
I disconnect my battery (extended) at 430 Am go to work and leave work around 430 PM and my battery is still about 65%. My Nexus would get close to dying with extended battery after about 8 hours at work. Obviously a spare charger fixes this issue, just an observed difference.
I will never bash the Nexus.. I really tried har dot keep it but for my specific needs/wants I just could not risk living with it for 2 years and having bad signla issues. Always a chance Verizon improves their network and perhaps software changes will fix it. I hope so. And am sure for many people the Gnex will work perfectly fine.
Good news for me is Verizon dropped the Rezound price by $100 this week and I called and they gave me the discount. My final price for the Rezound was $149 which makes me happy.
I do think the ReZound feels more plain. The Gnex is just a more eye grabbing phone in size shape and screen display, least to my eyes. wish I had measured my screen dimensions while I had it, specifically the length x width subtracting out the button area at bottom. I'm not sure it is that much larger than the ReZound but it just seems like it was bigger. i know it is wider. For now I don't miss the signal paranoia I was starting to have! Am i conected now? Am i conected now?
Again am not trashing the phone.. I really love the Gnex. I could have gotten past the battery issue via chargers but the loss of signals constantly was what I couldn't live with. It may just be where I live or even phone I had. Just know my ReZound isn't having those issues... it just doesn't quite have the eye candy the gnex has!
crankerchick
Android Enthusiast
Glad you are enjoying the Rezound. It's all about having the phone that works best for you.
All said and done, though, the Rezound is a real winner in my book with respect to data connection, screen quality, and camera. It's a nice phone. I wish I could have had the hardware performance of that phone, with the software and device design of the Nexus.
The other phones don't report 4G strength so it's not a fair comparison on 4G. The 4G signal is weaker than 3G, so when you are connected to 4G on both phones, if you compare their signal readings, the Nexus will always read 10-20 dB weaker because it's reporting LTE strength while the others are reporting 3G even though they are connected to LTE.
The Rezound does not report the LTE signal strength, like mentioned above. It's still a wonder though, that on 3G, your signal strength was lower than the other phones. That's what makes me think you had a bad Nexus. I don't really see this on my Nexus, regardless of if i'm in a strong or weak area. My 3G signal is always very close to the phone under comparison. On LTE, my data speeds are always similar to the phone under comparison. I compare data speeds since I can't compare signal strength.
All said and done, though, the Rezound is a real winner in my book with respect to data connection, screen quality, and camera. It's a nice phone. I wish I could have had the hardware performance of that phone, with the software and device design of the Nexus.
locoandroid
Well-Known Member
I just returned mine last nite, I am extremely disappointed with the phone's performance.Love ICS but these bugs were not good to me (drop call,overheat,reboot, low volume and last straw was having issue w calls not being able to b heard and had to hang up and call again to start a conversation. Just back to old ole X
Just back to old ole XSandroidfan
Android Expert
I agree that Rezound is winner in data connection but disagree on screen. I'm not fan of low contrast SLCD and contrast, color are rich in SAMOLED. Also I'm not fan of heavy Sense UI. Even Nexus camera is not bad at all to me. Honestly I don't get all the camera complains on other threads. Maybe they were expecting iPhone4S camera quality, but it's still pretty decent. Really the only part lacking in Nexus is stable 4G connection.
GadgetGeek
Newbie
So I haven't called Verizon yet to confirm.. but wondering what would happen to our "grandfathered" one-time upgrade to keep unlimited data??
If I were to return my SGN and just go back to my Droid X2, would I still be eligible for unlimited data when I again get a 4G phone/data plan... say for example whenever the RAZR MAXX drops?
Wouldn't be surprised if VZW would pull something lame like saying you forfeit unlimited data if you revert from 4G plan back to 3G plan then back again to 4G - even if the return is prior to the 15th!!
If I were to return my SGN and just go back to my Droid X2, would I still be eligible for unlimited data when I again get a 4G phone/data plan... say for example whenever the RAZR MAXX drops?
Wouldn't be surprised if VZW would pull something lame like saying you forfeit unlimited data if you revert from 4G plan back to 3G plan then back again to 4G - even if the return is prior to the 15th!!
ChiTownJim
Android Expert
The Rezound is a great phone had it for a month before getting the Nexus . Camera and Signal were better but I think everything else is better on the Nexus the biggest thing is being able to see the screen outside the Rezound looked awful in bright light I could barely read it where as the Nexus is very easy to read outside . The Rezound had a great screen but it never seemed very bright to me it was almost like it was at 70% brightness when I had it at 100 . I love AMOLED my Incredible and for a short time Fascinate screens just impressed me so much LCD just doesn't do it for me even an amazing LCD like the Rezound .
My First Nexus had tons of problems my second is just about perfect and the camera on my second is actually very good I'd say just as good as a Iphone 4 but slightly worse then the rezound . But blows away my Thunderbolt camera .
That being said it looks as if there really are a lot of bad Nexus out there which is a shame . I'm hoping I don't lose or break this phone I'd hate to start getting Refurb Nexus considering how many duds there are out there lol
My First Nexus had tons of problems my second is just about perfect and the camera on my second is actually very good I'd say just as good as a Iphone 4 but slightly worse then the rezound . But blows away my Thunderbolt camera .
That being said it looks as if there really are a lot of bad Nexus out there which is a shame . I'm hoping I don't lose or break this phone I'd hate to start getting Refurb Nexus considering how many duds there are out there lol
syntrix
Android Expert
I can use the app sensorly, and it reports the 3G signal on SGN. It did report what appeared to be 4G on my bionic (after a sim card swap with adapter).
-102 SGN @ work
-92 Bionic @ work
Typical 3G is around -76 (even on razr's charge's, etc), that was on par between the two.
crankerchick
Android Enthusiast
Your data is not "one time grandfathered" that I know of. Data is separate from your voice plan. You will not lose your data through a return, phone service change or anything. The only way you will lose your data is if you change data plans or cancel your data plan.So I haven't called Verizon yet to confirm.. but wondering what would happen to our "grandfathered" one-time upgrade to keep unlimited data??
If I were to return my SGN and just go back to my Droid X2, would I still be eligible for unlimited data when I again get a 4G phone/data plan... say for example whenever the RAZR MAXX drops?
Wouldn't be surprised if VZW would pull something lame like saying you forfeit unlimited data if you revert from 4G plan back to 3G plan then back again to 4G - even if the return is prior to the 15th!!
crankerchick
Android Enthusiast
I think screen is really the most subjective of features people compare between phones. Camera, no one can deny if a given picture is sharper than another. Data connection, no one can deny if a given phone holds a signal better. But with the screen, it really is about what one person likes over the next. I think the Rezound is a better display because it is more accurate with colors. Some like saturated colors and think the Rezound is washed out and boring, but others like more natural colors and think the Nexus is over saturated. When faces look red on my Nexus, that to me is a signal of inaccurate colors. But then, I'm the person who works on color calibrated monitors for editing photos, so I know that is why I gravitate more to the Rezound screen over the Nexus.
I agree, the Nexus is much brighter than the Rezound!
DaddyJax44
Newbie
I just tried to return my GNex to Best Buy and was told there was no Holiday Return Window by Verizon this year. The sales guy even called his Verizon rep to confirm. I bought the phone on launch day, Dec 15th, and am now told i have no return, only available option is to either get another GNex or choose another phone. Anyone else hear anything like this?
syntrix
Android Expert
I thought it was through VZW corp stores only. I had CSR on *611 note my account about it like 2 weeks ago..... however I think I'm going to keep the SGN.