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Just Received My Photon 4G!!!!
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Quadrant, Smartbench, Sunspider, BrowserMark,
One of the worst benchmarks out there.
shawheim_a
Android Enthusiast
Morning everyone! Today I will be at the pool so I will take more pics. supposed to be like 110 here where I live. But I see what you guys are dating you want me to do and I'll see what o can do for you. Thanks for all the positive replies!
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
I have a question regarding the signal bar on the Motorola Photon 4G.
Is that how Motorola designed the signal bar or is it a sign of pixelation? How the bars are not solid.
Thank you for pointing that out! I really wouldn't have noticed, had you not mentioned. You're the first person I've seen that actually showed me something where the pentile vs. other type of screen might be less appealing! Although, part of me feel that is due to the camera. Nontheless, it's not a deal breaker for me because the rest of the screen still looks incredibly clear enough for my needs.
It contains Sunspider, V8, Acid3, html5, and quite a few others, and isn't all over the map on dual cores the way Quadrant seems to be at present.
I'm interested in your views but would rather not derail the thread. Please PM and help square me away if you know what's wrong with this one, thanks in advance.
shawheim_a
Android Enthusiast
The signal bars are clear I can promise you that. They are a like teal color, not the normal colors you usually see. Plus the notification bar is a blue color also. When 3G goes away they turn like white or gray.
Also on another thread people were along me if the bootloader was unlocked since this is a dev unit. When I activated the phone out came up on sprint as developer unit. The phone has terminal emulator installed from motorola but I don't know the commands to check the lock status.
Also on another thread people were along me if the bootloader was unlocked since this is a dev unit. When I activated the phone out came up on sprint as developer unit. The phone has terminal emulator installed from motorola but I don't know the commands to check the lock status.
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
Love it, including Motorola's color scheme! Blue=my favorite color, so that gets a thumbs up from me.
TheSystem
Well-Known Member
I noticed it fairly quickly, though. I am just curious.
In my line of work(Photography). I spend a little too much time staring at screens Lol
Good, that's good to hear.
Thank you!
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
Haha...I'm glad, but also glad that it wasn't the screen that it's the way that Motorola designed connectivity color scheme.
shawheim, you're being quoted and your pics got borrowed:
Received Your Photon 4G Yet? Amazing Camera Samples Inside [Forum Talk] | Street Map Mobile
Your posts are being referenced all over the place, aside from the forums.
Cavemansol
Android Enthusiast
Damn...We gotta get this guy a medal or something...
^ yes, the media outlets are picking this up like wildfire and thus I have merged all the back to back posts to keep the thread more streamlined. So keep the questions and answers coming and put your best foot forward. 
As for giving the OP a medal, I agree, but in the mean time, give him your thanks in his posts.
I'm looking forward to the benchmarks.
TS
As for giving the OP a medal, I agree, but in the mean time, give him your thanks in his posts.
I'm looking forward to the benchmarks.
TS
burgertime
Android Enthusiast
The one important question, how does Exchange work and have you had time to play with any IMAP or as I said Exchange email?
killersiafu
Newbie
Thanks for all the info! Can't wait to pick mine up next week!
After playing with it for a couple days, how is the battery life holding up (and are you generally sticking to wifi or connected to 3G/Wimax... how heavy of a load are you putting on the device, etc) ?
have you run any speed tests on the Wimax in your area?
After playing with it for a couple days, how is the battery life holding up (and are you generally sticking to wifi or connected to 3G/Wimax... how heavy of a load are you putting on the device, etc) ?
have you run any speed tests on the Wimax in your area?
Cavemansol
Android Enthusiast
^ yes, the media outlets are picking this up like wildfire and thus I have merged all the back to back posts to keep the thread more streamlined. So keep the questions and answers coming and put your best foot forward.
As for giving the OP a medal, I agree, but in the mean time, give him your thanks in his posts.
I'm looking forward to the benchmarks.
TS
Done and Done
P.S. God damn you shawheim...This thread has convinced me to buy this damn phone off contract. YOU OWE MY WALLET AN APOLOGY!!!
TheSystem
Well-Known Member
I am starting to believe that you misunderstood my question, not regarding the actual color, but the fact that i can count each pixel on the screen? (My observation).
I can definitely count each pixel on Mario's nose.
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
I see what you are referring to. The shots of the Photon appear pixelated in a similar way magazine photos are pixelated when you look at the print up close.
That would indicate to me that that the Photon uses PenTile or some non-square subpixel layout. Which is a shame. For those with picky eyes, like me, I notice that stuff pretty effortlessly.
Here's native resolution on shawheim's photos: left is Photon; right is Evo 4G. Note the pixelation (screen door effect) on the Photon:
Very noticeable in the glow around the invincibility star.
Not to speak for shawheim but just to speak on this because I'm 100% sure -
As he pointed out, he's doing the best he can with a borrowed camera and we're all grateful.
But the only way to do exact screen resolution comparisons - or more importantly to draw good conclusions when you're not holding the phone - is with screen shots posted at full resolution, and then viewed at full resolution.
Where resolution is concerned, you're really getting differences in subpixel resolution then translated through the resolution of a separate camera, then translated through the jpeg compression of that camera, then translated through our website and your browser to whatever size you're viewing those pictures in.
Next - remember what happens when you take a picture of any screen updating at 60 Hz with a still camera. Unless you get lucky on the timing and it all syncs up, the picture will show pixelization that doesn't effectively exist.
I totally hope I'm not coming across in any way harsh - just a friendly point-out that the medium can only go so far here.
Same thing on final color comparisons - for that, you need a gamma-adjusted monitor on your PC to view the screen shots.
For my personal opinion, I'll just say these photos sure make the Photon look tip top to me and I can't wait to see one in person!! 
PS - Post moved to http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/375342-time-put-evo-3d-photon-test.html
As he pointed out, he's doing the best he can with a borrowed camera and we're all grateful.
But the only way to do exact screen resolution comparisons - or more importantly to draw good conclusions when you're not holding the phone - is with screen shots posted at full resolution, and then viewed at full resolution.
Where resolution is concerned, you're really getting differences in subpixel resolution then translated through the resolution of a separate camera, then translated through the jpeg compression of that camera, then translated through our website and your browser to whatever size you're viewing those pictures in.
Next - remember what happens when you take a picture of any screen updating at 60 Hz with a still camera. Unless you get lucky on the timing and it all syncs up, the picture will show pixelization that doesn't effectively exist.
I totally hope I'm not coming across in any way harsh - just a friendly point-out that the medium can only go so far here.
Same thing on final color comparisons - for that, you need a gamma-adjusted monitor on your PC to view the screen shots.
For my personal opinion, I'll just say these photos sure make the Photon look tip top to me and I can't wait to see one in person!!
PS - Post moved to http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/375342-time-put-evo-3d-photon-test.html
reddragon72
Well-Known Member
As for that picture with the signal bars in question it looks like the picture is not in focus. I say this because the buttons at the bottom of the phone are blurry so on the whole the picture is not in focus. I am not saying anything about your picture skills just clearing up the fuzzy questions about that picture. In other pictures you took the screen looks very nice and I am hoping there is no blur effect when scrolling through menus like the Evo 4G has.
As for the boot loader, it is probably unlocked, but it wont help anyone buying the phone as the phone comes locked. So even for you it wont make to much of a difference as no-one will be able to create Roms or get Root going till the boot loader is unlocked.
TheSystem
Well-Known Member
Not to speak for shawheim but just to speak on this because I'm 100% sure -
As he pointed out, he's doing the best he can with a borrowed camera and we're all grateful.
But the only way to do exact screen resolution comparisons - or more importantly to draw good conclusions when you're not holding the phone - is with screen shots posted at full resolution, and then viewed at full resolution.
Where resolution is concerned, you're really getting differences in subpixel resolution then translated through the resolution of a separate camera, then translated through the jpeg compression of that camera, then translated through our website and your browser to whatever size you're viewing those pictures in.
Next - remember what happens when you take a picture of any screen updating at 60 Hz with a still camera. Unless you get lucky on the timing and it all syncs up, the picture will show pixelization that doesn't effectively exist.
I totally hope I'm not coming across in any way harsh - just a friendly point-out that the medium can only go so far here.
Same thing on final color comparisons - for that, you need a gamma-adjusted monitor on your PC to view the screen shots.
For my personal opinion, I'll just say these photos sure make the Photon look tip top to me and I can't wait to see one in person!!
I surely appreciate shawheim for everything that he has done, but i will have to look at the device in person.
The Motorola Photon 4G looks great! But will i as an individual enjoy the screen? (As it is something that i will always look at)
shawheim_a
Android Enthusiast
I will be able to answer more questions here in about an hour. We are about to leave the pool and I also took more pics and a steadier video. Also put the multi shot to use too. I also notice that when using the front face camera you van record yourself! So I'll have to make a ffc video next!
Oh yeah, THANKS FOR ALL THE PRAISE! I really don't deserve it.
Oh yeah, THANKS FOR ALL THE PRAISE! I really don't deserve it.
Godfather13
Android Enthusiast
When looking at both Mario pics on the Photon and 3vo I see what you are saying about the pixelation on his nose and even the right corner of his hat on the Photon. But look at where the blue sky hits the moon...its pretty clear there. Now look at that same area on the 3vo. Its pixeled pretty good. So it seems they both are showing some sort of pixelation in certain areas.
But just like EarlyMon said, you are relying on so many factors to draw these conclusions (camera, mp, flash, angle, computer screen, resolution), you really need to compare the 2 with your own eyes to be fair.
Please let's remember in super-friendly way that this is the Just Received My Photon 4G thread - questions on point to shawheim, realy great, discussing things in general great, digging into specific details - hmmm - could get moved to relevant threads.
Nothing wrong if we move one of your posts - just wanting to keep this one focused for the sake of all who've waited so long to see this one, like twospirits said - keeping it neat.
To our many lurkers reading these pages - and boy it seems we have quite a few! - welcome to AndroidForums, feel free to join up and post - as the oldest and largest Android user help forum, we're way way newcomer friendly around here!
Nothing wrong if we move one of your posts - just wanting to keep this one focused for the sake of all who've waited so long to see this one, like twospirits said - keeping it neat.
To our many lurkers reading these pages - and boy it seems we have quite a few! - welcome to AndroidForums, feel free to join up and post - as the oldest and largest Android user help forum, we're way way newcomer friendly around here!
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