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Liberals are...smarter!
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hakr100
Android Expert
Understand what, precisely? If you have some proof for the existence of a creator that goes beyond faith, let's see it.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Faith isnt something you can see. Look, dont think Im trying to convert you or anything, Im no devout Christian. But what I am saying is that you cant look for a creator with science. Thats what your trying to do. But as I said in one of my other posts, I am That am, (explaning it to you in a religious POV) that means he is all around us and he is God almighty, just look at christians, they believe in god, they cannot see him, nor hear him, and cannot find any scientifical proof of him, yet they somehow believe in him. Thats what I am that I am means. But ofcourse, you will not believe me because its out of your understanding.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Your right, I still believe in my god, but not everything someone believes in is true, but just because its not provable does not make it not real. Scientists say that they believe there might be Universes outside of ours, yet they cannot prove it because that is out of our understanding
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Well, alot of people say that believers believe because they fear they might go to hell, which is true, but I just believe because if you look around you, how everything works. I have an Uncle who works with DNA and stuff (never really asked, or cared), and he always talks (a lot) about how working with DNA and understanding how millions of genetic codes somehow give the body these instructions, influence him to believe in God. And really just look at everything, the Earth is somehow at a perfect distance from the sun, the human eye can detect millions of colors, and no technology today can even replicate it, the human brain can take in billions of commands at a time. Some call it a miracle and proof of God, others call it a coincidence. I dont know what to say, but yeah, thats why I believe in God.
Again, Im no devout Christian, just believe in God in my own way, but I cosider myself a Catholic.
Why dont you believe in God?
hakr100
Android Expert
I'm not asking you to prove the existence of a creator via science. The fact remains, you cannot prove the existence of a creator by any means.
That christians claim to believe in a creator and the son of a creator in the total absence of proof doesn't cut it for me.
It's not that it is "out of my understanding," as you posit. It's just there is not a scintilla of evidence backstopping your belief in a creator.
If there is, let's see it.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Read the post above you, there's my evidence of my god. You might not agree, but that's your problem. So what, you think your alive and thats it, take It for granted, what's gonna happen when you die, you just go away? Great cycle huh, you think we just evolve that's it, who taught us right or wrong, science, no, religion did. You nor science cannot explain why people believe In invisible things, I don't know, nor do I care. Stop asking for proof of God, I gave you my proof, ofcourse you did not understand it and you seek scientifical evidence of it. Ask yourself, who am I and why am I here, then think whats right or wrong, define It.
hakr100
Android Expert
Sorry, what you offered is not proof of the existence of a creator.
The classic example of "I don't understand it, so I'm just going to say god did it".
Basically how all religions started.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Maybe not to you. But who cares, Im not trying to obligate you to believe, or to say that your damned, or any of that "Im a good christian" BS.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Thats nice. And you, the classic example of, " I am smarter than everyone else, thus, I am no gods slave". Hey, theres two sides to a story.
hakr100
Android Expert
Originally Posted by hakr100 
Sorry, what you offered is not proof of the existence of a creator.
The fact is, you offered no proof of anything.
Sorry, what you offered is not proof of the existence of a creator.
The fact is, you offered no proof of anything.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Originally Posted by hakr100
Sorry, what you offered is not proof of the existence of a creator.
The fact is, you offered no proof of anything.
Hows about this? I believe that to me what I offered is proof. Is that better or is my grammar off a tad? Since the fact is that there are more people on Earth that believe there is a god or a creator (they might not be christians) than there are like you.
I have some beach front property in Arizona I'd like to sell you.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
It's not evidence, its a hypothesis. By looking around and realizing that most of earths population believes In a deity, you can conclude that maybe there Is (pretty darn obvious). That's a scientificical method. But ofcourse whats missing Is evidence, but like anything, time will tell. ( you know, scientists once almost concluded that there might just be a deity, they just didnt put it in textbooks because they did not want to offend anyone)
Whoa , whoa, whoa, man. That's what the priests and all those secretive " question me and you die" Catholics thought, unless you really believe that God said that everything revolves us. And Is homosexuality wrong? Because really that didnt exist back when humans were primitives, it like teens, people that want to be different. Unless you think the ball fits in the square cut hole, there's a reason why that human body part is there. It's nature. Homosexuality is not natural.
People don't believe in God for comfort, they believe in him because they choose too. They put themselves before a God that's invisible, Is that comfort? People are willing to die for a God thats invisible, is that comfort? No. You know science Is just a tool that humans use to substitute reality.
You claimed it was evidence.
What evidential test do you base your hypothesis on?
Really? That's your evidence!? No wonder congregations of the religious are known as a flock!
What makes you believe that?! or is that just another thought you've had that stuck without any reasoning?
WTF?!
You're wrong; I don't think you even understand what homosexuality is
But WHY do they choose? ask yourself that.
Yup, often.
People will die for a lot of things they believe in. A parent would die for it's child; because they're comforted by the thought their sacrifice will protect their child.
Of course it is dear
Just a random question: are you male or female? Because a lot of times you seem biased towards both sides and it doesn't make sense. As neutral as someone may be on an issue and just want the best, you always seems to straddle the lines on both radical feminism and whatever men have in response to that. I'm sure it confuses others as well.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
You claimed it was evidence.
What evidential test do you base your hypothesis on?
Really? That's your evidence!? No wonder congregations of the religious are known as a flock!
What makes you believe that?! or is that just another thought you've had that stuck without any reasoning?
WTF?!
You're wrong; I don't think you even understand what homosexuality is
But WHY do they choose? ask yourself that.
Yup, often.
People will die for a lot of things they believe in. A parent would die for it's child; because they're comforted by the thought their sacrifice will protect their child.
Of course it is dear
You really thought I was serious about the whole hypothesis thing, I said that to play your '' scientific analysidual professions'' game. But uh, yeah, just because most of the population believes in a deity it means something. That's fuking obvious. Yet you seem to keep trying to imply this logical bullsh!t, that people believe In a god because it comforts them, WTF, dude, you don't believe in god and yet you say sh!t like that, believe in him and maybe you'd know then why people belive In him, don't try to have a voice if you have no vote. And I dont give a care about why gays choose to be gay. They can be gay all they want. And yeah, who are you to say Im a fool to believe In such crap ( God) when you believe in science, something that uses numbers and equations to substitute for Invisible forces, unless you believe that there are numbers flying around the universe. I mean do you reallly think that science is real, if science itself says that to the other universes outside of ours we are the Impossible. So don't get to confident. We might just be wrong.