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Liberals are...smarter!
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RAND0M1ZER
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There is plenty of evidence for the big bang theory, for however there is none.
Big Bang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A bunch of astronomers and physicist don't just make things up. The present a hypothesis which is always under review from the scientific community.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Well true, but what makes you believe that maybe in the future we might have the knowledge and technology to prove a god real, or possible atleast. I mean, you never really know, yet these guys are confident that there will never be a god, or proof of one, not even a possibility atleast.
Jammy
Android Expert
"how can you believe it happened"
I have no idea what you are referring to here... I did not say anything about my beliefs in anything in my post...
really? why is that? The parents take excellent care of their family, the kids are are very smart, well rounded, loving and polite and well mannered. No piercings, tattoos, spiked colored hair, black painted fingernails, rap music spewing forth filth, sullen selfish pants on the ground ill mannered punks. it's called being normal. odd, that in the 21st century we call this "sick"
You're not using proper logic in the first argument. Just because certain aspects of paganism have been proven wrong is not a basis that Christianity has also been proven wrong. (Not a very scientific or logical argument here.)
Also, are you sure the exact age of the universe has been scientifically proven? If so, I must have completely missed that headline. Last time I checked, it was an estimation. (Your second illogical & flawed argument).
Are you a dog whisperer? How on earth do you know dogs' concept of right and wrong? Dogs can be trained to do or not do certain things, but this hardly proves they have a logical understanding of right & wrong. (Third flawed argument).
I understand how non-believing people can be offended by belivers' faith & how that causes them to belittle & insult believers' intelligence in order to further convince themselves of their beliefs, but it seems like those on this discussion who are trying to defend faith are the ones trying to make logical arguments, while the athiests are turning more to insult & emotional arguments. I don't hate anyone, and am much more a loving person than before I became a believer. I just hope there are some athiests out there who can find find a way to become a believer. It must be terribly depressing to live a life while ultimately believing that life is meaningless, and ends when it ends. It's easy to have that viewpoint when one is healthy and young, but I wonder how many actually question those beliefs when they see death near.
If there's one thing I've discovered, it's that people have an uncanny ability to be wrong. Personally, I'd rather be a Christian who is wrong about his faith, than be an Athiest who is wrong about his (or lack of). (your mileage may vary)...
Jammy
Android Expert
It's the fact that the parents are teaching things like that to their children. Like teaching them that the world is less than 6,000 years old.
What's wrong with piercings, tattoos, hair gel, hair dye, nail polish or a genre of music?
I was thinking the same thing. Would he be less sickened by children who are obsessed w/ sex, body image, and who lack any evidence of moral values? Seems a little backward to me. Maybe my opinion is just flawed as a parent. To the person who said this induces nausea, are you an actual parent?
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
I meant the big bang, sorry, forgot to explain. But how can something, come out of nothing, it would be an infinite cycle to say that 2 Universes collided, because then 4 universes collided to make those 2, and so on.
Only a supernatural person such as God can make something out of nothing. Only God can breathe life to create life and our own soul. The Biblical commentary and scriptures below provides proof that God created the universe, John 1:3, Hebrews 11:3, Genesis 2:7 and Roman 1:20, check em out.
To me, the world around us is the best evidence and proof that God created the universe. The very existence of the universe cannot be understood or explained using our five senses. The actual creation of this world was a miracle and cannot be explained by natural phenomenon. Only a supernatural force such as God could have been behind the supernatural act of creation
Jammy
Android Expert
If the universe was 6,000 years old, all of what we can see in the sky would be within 6,000 light years of our position. I think we'd be a little cramped if that was true...
Hubble Ultra Deep Field - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Again, you cannot take the bible to literally, but really, we cannot say the exact age of the Universe. Im sure its very old though.
Isthmus
Android Expert
No one has said that. what they have said is that there is no evidence that there is a god (any god not just the judeo-christian one). surely if evidence was to present itself the scientific community would gladly pursue that bit of research. they have before, and the church has used science to investigate their own beliefs so it is not like it doesn't happen.
Isthmus
Android Expert
Actually we can estimate it very closely. it's a little over 13.75 billion years old.
I did not say I believed the universe was only 6000 years old, not all Christians believe that. I was responding to the post that claimed the exact age of the universe has been scientifically proven. That is a very uneducated assumption.
You would do well to not lump all Christians' beliefs into the same category.
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faber78
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it was to long and im to stupid to read it.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Jammy
Android Expert
And as I said, we don't know. We have good ideas as to what happened.
YouTube - Bertrand Russell on God (1959)
Check that video out, particularly from 0:39 to 0:44.
Jammy
Android Expert
I figured you were of that belief, otherwise, I don't see the point you were trying to make.
To the athiests on this board, why the constant need to remind believers how stupid they are? If you're that comfortable in your beliefs, why insult those w/ different points of view? I thought many of you strived for equality & fairness. Yet, Christian beliefs are met w/ insult & dismissal. Simple question...
The only point I was trying to make was to point out the flat out lie posted by the member about the exact age of the universe being proven. You said so yourself, the age of the universe is an estimate. You don't know it's true, but you have faith that it is, based on numerical & scientific estimates.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
But they have poked fun at the idea that there might be a god, just like back then, people poked fun at the earth revolving around the earth. History repeats itself. Maybe later on, these people will be the ones being poked fun of. And dont say that the universe revolving around the earth was religious crap, I know that. But again, history does not decide its victim, it might just be you atheists in here, you never know. And the same goes to us believers, but Id just like to make the point, that us believers are not poking fun at anything, its you atheists.