Root Luvin' FroShedYo v10

[doogald]

I seem to be having some trouble with Apps2sd using this ROM. I hadn't really noticed until I started installing some applications. This is the first 2.2 ROM I've used, my card I currently formatted for the 2.1 ROMs. I can move them over to the card, but I noticed the widgets are not available. I imagine the issue would be re-partitioning the card. Any thoughts?

You cannot move apps that have homescreen widgets to SD on Froyo - that's by design.

When an Android phone running Froyo starts, mounting the SD card happens after the homescreen launcher app runs, so any widgets on a home screen would not be available at boot time. Also, if you mount your SD card to your computer when connected over USB, the SD card is unmounted and the widget is again unavailable to the launcher app.

Whatever you do, do not partition your SD card. Most Froyo ROMs require that the SD card be a single, FAT32 partition.

 

[heyjoojoo]

Hmm... my phone has slowed dramatically down now. Not sure why that happens...

 

[xx_bishop_xx]

You cannot move apps that have homescreen widgets to SD on Froyo - that's by design.

When an Android phone running Froyo starts, mounting the SD card happens after the homescreen launcher app runs, so any widgets on a home screen would not be available at boot time. Also, if you mount your SD card to your computer when connected over USB, the SD card is unmounted and the widget is again unavailable to the launcher app.

Whatever you do, do not partition your SD card. Most Froyo ROMs require that the SD card be a single, FAT32 partition.

Thanks buddy. It seems to work fine even with the partition from the White Widow ROM I was using. I guess anything I have that uses a homescreen widget I will just remain installed on the main storage. Thank for the education.

 

[doogald]

Hmm... my phone has slowed dramatically down now. Not sure why that happens...

Did you change anything recently? Change any overclocking settings, add any apps, etc?

 

[Bob Cat]

Did you change anything recently? Change any overclocking settings, add any apps, etc?

Mine has been starting to run slow as well. Haven't added or changed anything. Also I spoke to soon about the radio. Started acking up again today.

 

[scotty85]

bobcat are you still on vanilla? or back on v10?

mine(vanilla) is still running great. however,i have run a few other roms since i intially flashed it... and everytime i go back to it i restore it from a backup i made right after getting my homescreens set the way i wanted,and prior to much messing with.

i may be inadvertantly clearing out some things by restoring an older backup. i dont care about my call log or text mssgs,so if i havent added apps or made changes i dont use the current one.

have you guys got an older one you could restore without losing much?

 

[Bob Cat]

bobcat are you still on vanilla? or back on v10?

mine(vanilla) is still running great. however,i have run a few other roms since i intially flashed it... and everytime i go back to it i restore it from a backup i made right after getting my homescreens set the way i wanted,and prior to much messing with.

i may be inadvertantly clearing out some things by restoring an older backup. i dont care about my call log or text mssgs,so if i havent added apps or made changes i dont use the current one.

have you guys got an older one you could restore without losing much?

Still on vanilla Scotty. Now that I think about it I've had this problem for the last couple of roms. It really gets on my nerves if I'm talking to a customer. I haven't changed any roms lately because I'm too lazy to reset everything back up. I've been trying linux the last couple of days and it's been a real challange for me. You don't know anything about linux do you?

 

[scotty85]

You don't know anything about linux do you?

nope... dont really know anything about it

 

[Jomboni]

So after using this for a few weeks, and loving it, I am having camera issues

I can usually take 2-3 pictures before the camera force closes, and then I can't take any more without rebooting.

Has anybody experienced a similar issue? I realllllly don't want to switch roms over this. I don't even use the camera very much but this caused problems twice over the weekend!

 

[Bob Cat]

So after using this for a few weeks, and loving it, I am having camera issues

I can usually take 2-3 pictures before the camera force closes, and then I can't take any more without rebooting.

Has anybody experienced a similar issue? I realllllly don't want to switch roms over this. I don't even use the camera very much but this caused problems twice over the weekend!

The few times I use the camera I've not had any problems.

 

[Podivin]

So after using this for a few weeks, and loving it, I am having camera issues

I can usually take 2-3 pictures before the camera force closes, and then I can't take any more without rebooting.

Has anybody experienced a similar issue? I realllllly don't want to switch roms over this. I don't even use the camera very much but this caused problems twice over the weekend!

I use Vignette camera app on it's 'quick write' setting, that's works very well.

 

[jennahw]

I'm using Vanilla and mostly like it so far (first ROM I've installed). Not a huge fan of the way the camera works, but everything else seems decent.

I did a Nandroid backup thinking that would get me back my apps after I flashed the new ROM. Was I wrong? Do I have to attempt to remember them all and download them again?

 

[Bob Cat]

I'm using Vanilla and mostly like it so far (first ROM I've installed). Not a huge fan of the way the camera works, but everything else seems decent.

I did a Nandroid backup thinking that would get me back my apps after I flashed the new ROM. Was I wrong? Do I have to attempt to remember them all and download them again?

Use Titanium Backup. Get the paid app.

 

[doogald]

I'm using Vanilla and mostly like it so far (first ROM I've installed). Not a huge fan of the way the camera works, but everything else seems decent.

I did a Nandroid backup thinking that would get me back my apps after I flashed the new ROM. Was I wrong? Do I have to attempt to remember them all and download them again?

Nandroid backup makes a snapshot of your phone, exactly as it is at the time that you made it, while Nandroid restore will return it exactly to that state.

Consider two examples:

- you install FroShedYo, install a few apps, get everything set up. Then you decide to try out xtrROM. You make a Nandroid backup, install and set up xtrROM, then decide that you don't like it and want to go back. At that point you can run a Nandroid restore of your phone from the backup of Nonsensikal and, when you restart, your phone will have Nonsensikal, with those few apps, and everything set up - just as you left it when you ran the backup before installing xtrROM.

- you have everything set up on FroShedYo but decide that you want to try to update the keyboard. You run a Nandroid backup first, then install the keyboard - but the keyboard doesn't work, and all of the apps on your phone start to force close. You then Nandroid restore the backup that you made before you installed the keyboard and, when you restart the phone, everything works the way it did before you installed the keyboard, as if you never did so.

That's what Nandroid backup and restore can do. It cannot, however, do a partial restore - bring back two apps, or the settings on only a single app. It simply resets your phone back to the way it was when you ran the backup.

As bobcat suggests, one solution is to Nandroid Backup Nonseniskal as it is now, then restore what you had before. Install Titanium Backup, backup all of your user apps, then Nandroid Restore Nonsensikal, install Titanium there, and then restore what you backed up from your stock ROM. Just be aware that you should not restore any system apps or data, so you will not be able to restore SMS messages or the call logs.

If you want to do those, there is a solution for that as well, using free apps in the market called SMS Backup & Restore and Call Logs Backup & Restore. Again, this would be similar to what I said before - Nandroid restore your old ROM, install Titanium and the two other apps I just mentioned, use all three to backup what they can, the restore Nonsensikal and, again, install all three of those apps and restore what they can.

I hope that wasn't too confusing...

 

[scotty85]

Nandroid backup makes a snapshot of your phone, exactly as it is at the time that you made it, while Nandroid restore will return it exactly to that state.

Consider two examples:

- you install Nonsensikal install a few apps, get everything set up. Then you decide to try out xtrROM. You make a Nandroid backup, install and set up xtrROM, then decide that you don't like it and want to go back. At that point you can run a Nandroid restore of your phone from the backup of Nonsensikal and, when you restart, your phone will have Nonsensikal, with those few apps, and everything set up - just as you left it when you ran the backup before installing xtrROM.

i fixed the part that confused me i assume this is how you meant it,lol

 

[scotty85]

I use Vignette camera app on it's 'quick write' setting, that's works very well.

is this an app that works independently of an onboard functioning camera?(so you could,hmm,take a beta rom whose camera doesnt work yet and be able to take pictures? )

reading the description,it looks like it needs a functional camera to work....

 

[jennahw]

Nandroid backup makes a snapshot of your phone, exactly as it is at the time that you made it, while Nandroid restore will return it exactly to that state.

Consider two examples:

- you install FroShedYo, install a few apps, get everything set up. Then you decide to try out xtrROM. You make a Nandroid backup, install and set up xtrROM, then decide that you don't like it and want to go back. At that point you can run a Nandroid restore of your phone from the backup of Nonsensikal and, when you restart, your phone will have Nonsensikal, with those few apps, and everything set up - just as you left it when you ran the backup before installing xtrROM.

- you have everything set up on FroShedYo but decide that you want to try to update the keyboard. You run a Nandroid backup first, then install the keyboard - but the keyboard doesn't work, and all of the apps on your phone start to force close. You then Nandroid restore the backup that you made before you installed the keyboard and, when you restart the phone, everything works the way it did before you installed the keyboard, as if you never did so.

That's what Nandroid backup and restore can do. It cannot, however, do a partial restore - bring back two apps, or the settings on only a single app. It simply resets your phone back to the way it was when you ran the backup.

As bobcat suggests, one solution is to Nandroid Backup Nonseniskal as it is now, then restore what you had before. Install Titanium Backup, backup all of your user apps, then Nandroid Restore Nonsensikal, install Titanium there, and then restore what you backed up from your stock ROM. Just be aware that you should not restore any system apps or data, so you will not be able to restore SMS messages or the call logs.

If you want to do those, there is a solution for that as well, using free apps in the market called SMS Backup & Restore and Call Logs Backup & Restore. Again, this would be similar to what I said before - Nandroid restore your old ROM, install Titanium and the two other apps I just mentioned, use all three to backup what they can, the restore Nonsensikal and, again, install all three of those apps and restore what they can.

I hope that wasn't too confusing...

OK, so I was able to reinstall all my apps from Titanium Backup (I just had to manually approve each one). I unchecked the obv Sense stuff, but I've noticed 2 things:

-I have music on my SD card - I can find it through Astro File Manager. But when I try to click on it to play or set as ringtone, it says something that makes me feel like it's not recognizing MP3s. I also notice that there is no 'music' app. I also had an MP3 trimmed for a ringtone, and that won't load. I tried to go back to Titanium and install the ringtone and music-related stuff, but it doesn't seem to be working.

-I tried to send a pic message, and my hubby's phone (an Incredible) said it couldn't receive it. I remember before that the phone always had to compress pic messages before sending them...is this not happening? And how can I make it happen?

-I still think the camera app is kind of fugly, but I can live with that.

-I also kind of miss the built-in (HTC or Sense?) weather app. I used to use the smallest one because I like an empty screen. Any way to get that back? I downloaded a couple that are OK, but I don't love them. The one that seems to come with the ROM weirdly cuts off the bottom set of numbers.

-The Launcher - is there any way to add apps to that or move around the apps that are there? Is that part of the paid version? (IE I'd prefer if the phone button was in the center instead of the apps button, but I can't seem to move them around.)

Just as a reminder, I'm using the Vanilla.

 

[doogald]

OK, so I was able to reinstall all my apps from Titanium Backup (I just had to manually approve each one). I unchecked the obv Sense stuff, but I've noticed 2 things:

-I have music on my SD card - I can find it through Astro File Manager. But when I try to click on it to play or set as ringtone, it says something that makes me feel like it's not recognizing MP3s. I also notice that there is no 'music' app. I also had an MP3 trimmed for a ringtone, and that won't load. I tried to go back to Titanium and install the ringtone and music-related stuff, but it doesn't seem to be working.

First, I never use my phone to play music, other than ringtones and notifications - my battery life is challenging enough as it is, and Android, in my opinion, is a crappy iPod.

That said, in my SD card I created a folder called Media, and under that folders called "Ringtones" and "Notifications". The "Media" folder is unimportant, but, as I understand it, Android looks for Ringtones is a folder anywhere called Ringtones, and Notifications in Notifications.

I have MP3 files in both locations and all work for me.

-I tried to send a pic message, and my hubby's phone (an Incredible) said it couldn't receive it. I remember before that the phone always had to compress pic messages before sending them...is this not happening? And how can I make it happen?

I'll have to let somebody else answer this, as I send MMS messages about as often as I file tax returns. That said, it's always worked for me.

-I also kind of miss the built-in (HTC or Sense?) weather app. I used to use the smallest one because I like an empty screen. Any way to get that back? I downloaded a couple that are OK, but I don't love them. The one that seems to come with the ROM weirdly cuts off the bottom set of numbers.

I don't think that there is anything quite like the Sense weather/time widget, but I could be wrong. I never liked that Sense widget myself.

Anyway, most builds I know have a widget called the News and Weather widget that is a pretty minimal widget. If I put one on, that's what I use.

-The Launcher - is there any way to add apps to that or move around the apps that are there? Is that part of the paid version? (IE I'd prefer if the phone button was in the center instead of the apps button, but I can't seem to move them around.)

I believe this uses LauncherPro. For LauncherPro doc icons, just press and hold the icon and you can change it to an app, action (like the app drawer), etc. You'll see. Anyway, just press and hold the icon that you want the app drawer to be, and from the menu that pops up choose change shortcut, then select applications (for an app) or App Drawer (to make it the app drawer).

If it is using ADW, you drag what you want where you want it on the dock, and it replaces what is there. I'm not sure how to move the app drawer myself; hopefully somebody else knows.

 

[scotty85]

OK, so I was able to reinstall all my apps from Titanium Backup (I just had to manually approve each one). I unchecked the obv Sense stuff, but I've noticed 2 things:

-I have music on my SD card - I can find it through Astro File Manager. But when I try to click on it to play or set as ringtone, it says something that makes me feel like it's not recognizing MP3s. I also notice that there is no 'music' app. I also had an MP3 trimmed for a ringtone, and that won't load. I tried to go back to Titanium and install the ringtone and music-related stuff, but it doesn't seem to be working.

i have never backed up music or ringtones. as dooglad said,just make files called "notifications" and "ringtones" and drop your mp3s into it. FYI you dont have to put the folders inside a folder labled "media". my folders are on the top level and the phone finds them. every rom ive flashed,my ringtones and alerts are there there to pick from.

i also thot it was wierd that there was no music player. there are a few in the market- just pick one. i picked one called "music player" seems to work as good as the stock ones.

-I tried to send a pic message, and my hubby's phone (an Incredible) said it couldn't receive it. I remember before that the phone always had to compress pic messages before sending them...is this not happening? And how can I make it happen?

are you getting a message on your phone saying "message not sent,service unavailable" ? or his his phone just not downloading?

if its the latter,maybe try downsizing your pictures... even my droid 1 with stock 2.2.1 wouldnt download mssgs over 30kb

if its the former... go to wireless networks and make sur eyou have data enabled,and "international data roaming" checked. and when you send the pic,wifi needs to be off.

-I also kind of miss the built-in (HTC or Sense?) weather app. I used to use the smallest one because I like an empty screen. Any way to get that back? I downloaded a couple that are OK, but I don't love them. The one that seems to come with the ROM weirdly cuts off the bottom set of numbers.

im with you there. i havent found a wether widget as cool as the sense one. i had the same prollem with the cut off numbers in v10... i dont have it in vanilla,however.

 

[MOS95B]

I use Fancy Widget for clock/weather. It has a "Smaller Home" which is only 1x4

 

[jennahw]

i have never backed up music or ringtones. as dooglad said,just make files called "notifications" and "ringtones" and drop your mp3s into it. FYI you dont have to put the folders inside a folder labled "media". my folders are on the top level and the phone finds them. every rom ive flashed,my ringtones and alerts are there there to pick from.

i also thot it was wierd that there was no music player. there are a few in the market- just pick one. i picked one called "music player" seems to work as good as the stock ones.



are you getting a message on your phone saying "message not sent,service unavailable" ? or his his phone just not downloading?

if its the latter,maybe try downsizing your pictures... even my droid 1 with stock 2.2.1 wouldnt download mssgs over 30kb

if its the former... go to wireless networks and make sur eyou have data enabled,and "international data roaming" checked. and when you send the pic,wifi needs to be off.



im with you there. i havent found a wether widget as cool as the sense one. i had the same prollem with the cut off numbers in v10... i dont have it in vanilla,however.

Thanks, I figured out the "media" thing right after I posted. I also basically just use music for ringtones, though I considered putting some music on so I didn't have to take a separate ipod on the plane.

I was using Fancy Widget, but found some other smaller ones I like (I mainly want the temp). They all have 'sense' in the name and are by Factory Widgets (no skins, it seems, to each one is a separate app). The ony disadvantage is that you have to set the location, it doesn't GPS it.

I am now wondering (full of questions!)...so do I manually move all my apps to SD using something like Titanium Backup? And I can move all the apps to my SD except for the apps which contain homescreen widgets (and this means actual widgets - not just buttons that go on one of my home screens)? That is the main reason I decided to root - I kept running low on space - so I want to make sure I have that area covered and am still a little unclear if they're moved there automatically with a 2.2-based ROM or not (I don't think they are, but my SD card is so messy and needs to be cleaned/organized that it's hard to tell).

 

[doogald]

I am now wondering (full of questions!)...so do I manually move all my apps to SD using something like Titanium Backup? And I can move all the apps to my SD except for the apps which contain homescreen widgets (and this means actual widgets - not just buttons that go on one of my home screens)? That is the main reason I decided to root - I kept running low on space - so I want to make sure I have that area covered and am still a little unclear if they're moved there automatically with a 2.2-based ROM or not (I don't think they are, but my SD card is so messy and needs to be cleaned/organized that it's hard to tell).

You can use TB to move apps to SD, yes, but they have a big warning in red - this can be dangerous, make a Nandroid backup first, also copy the directory /.android_secure on your SD card just in case (because it has a period in the beginning of the name, the directory is usually hidden, but you can see it if you use an app like Astro File Manager and, I think, go into settings and turn on the setting to see hidden files and folders.) /sdcard/.android_secure is where on the SD card these apps get moved when you install to SD.

You can also use the official Android way - go into settings->Manage applications and, for each app that you can move, when you tap it there is a button to move to SD card. I believe that there is a market app that can do this as well.

I understood that moving to SD is supported only for apps that support actually running from SD, but I'm not sure how you find that out. Maybe on appbrain.com? It is definitely true that you cannot move apps that have homescreen widgets.

I also know that there is a setting on the Cyanogen 2.2 ROMs settings->CyanogenMod settings->Application settings called "Allow application moving". I'd probably want to check that setting on.

One thing to know: when you Nandroid Restore, none of the wipes or the Nandroid Restore itself will wipe the /.android_secure folder on your SD card. If you do find that your phone is messed up, I'd Nandroid restore, power the phone down, then mount the SD card to your PC (you can buy USB dongles that allow you to mount SD and mini SD cards) and delete the app that caused problems from there.

As may be obvious, I have never actually moved an app to SD card myself. Perhaps I should, just to see what happens? However, I am pretty sure that what I typed is pretty true...

 

[scotty85]

I understood that moving to SD is supported only for apps that support actually running from SD, but I'm not sure how you find that out. Maybe on appbrain.com? It is definitely true that you cannot move apps that have homescreen widgets

im pretty sure non supported apps just dont have the "move to SD card" button lit up. i tried to download something to my non-rooted droid 1,and i dint have enuff room. i moved everyting to the SD card that allowed me to do so gain some space.dint seem to produce any negative side effects. apps that are on the SD card must load to the phone in order to open,so some of the bigger ones may take a tiny bit longer to open. therefore id leave apps that you use constantly on the phone.

edit: i believe the comment about having to load sd card apps to the phone to open is true,but i cant figure out where i heard or read that so if this is not true,my apologies

 

[Stagnation]

-I also kind of miss the built-in (HTC or Sense?) weather app. I used to use the smallest one because I like an empty screen. Any way to get that back? I downloaded a couple that are OK, but I don't love them. The one that seems to come with the ROM weirdly cuts off the bottom set of numbers.

Have you tried Beautiful Widgets?

 

[Mer2112]

Update, update....

Need to uninstall the Launcher Pro Update to get the old theme back.

Hi Guys,

Update: When Launcher Pro updated it defaulted to all Launcher Pro icons and removed the stock rom theme. How can I get it back with the update?

Thanks

I flashed the black on black fix and everything reverted back to Launcher Pro icons. How do I get the original look back?

Thanks,

Eric