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Malaysia Airlines tragedies
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Pretty much 180
Yes, people really don't understand black holes. A small one would evaporate in a puff of Hawking radiation
But I hesitate to point out that the huge one at the centre of the galaxy won't "suck in the entire universe", and hence his argument is invalid, in case that encourages them to discuss the idea further...
I spared you the further speculation that maybe it fell into a wormhole, while the idiot that suggested that in counterpoint admitted that he "didn't know what the science behind that was."
And while not everyone may be familiar with black holes, they don't have to be as galactically stupid as shown here -
And no, planes do not run off of big lithium batteries in the cargo hold.
PS - pay attention CNN, you can report on how the turbo encabulator was involved in the MH370 next.
Thank you!
As for the clip, I would have reached for my own revolver at "this is your Saturday night mystery", if I had one
Do the CNN folks make plane noises while they use their toys to simulate the plane being sucked into a wormhole?
As well as agreeing with the NTSB-projected route -
The nature and level of information coming from the Australian agencies is first rate imo - facts without drama (aside from their PM).
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...may-have-been-found-in-australian-search-zone
And the radar data never confirmed to be for MH370, and the constant reports that avionics were switched off or reprogrammed in flight as the only possible explanations for the telemetry when no subsystems exist to support that single point of view.
And there's the eyewitness reports saying it went down in the South China Sea.
Perhaps but I was thinking more about buoyancy. A wing with empty tanks might do, as would an aggregate appearing to be a single object, such as some of the inflated ramps floating together.
Do the CNN folks make plane noises while they use their toys to simulate the plane being sucked into a wormhole?
Yes. Yes they do.
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
We don't have days!
Australia Investigates Possible Debris from Malaysian Jet
A Norwegian merchant ship arrived in the area on Thursday, but officials cautioned it could take days to confirm if the objects were parts of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777. Malaysia's government said the search would continue elsewhere despite the sighting in the southern Indian Ocean.
Australia Investigates Possible Debris from Malaysian Jet
A Norwegian merchant ship arrived in the area on Thursday, but officials cautioned it could take days to confirm if the objects were parts of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777. Malaysia's government said the search would continue elsewhere despite the sighting in the southern Indian Ocean.
Smokey Mc Pot
Android Enthusiast
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Alien Droid
Newbie
Just read when searching for 777 info that the independent says "Search called off for day after two pieces of debris spotted floating in Indian Ocean"
That can't be right going on the live update I watched this morning!
Anyways I did see on the news (an expert) saying if the MH370 had wings made from composite materials and if these were honeycombed they could be floating after this amount of time! Looks like there are a few different versions of the 777 so that might depend on what exact model MH370 was! They might have to rename this link!!
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I'm still hoping as silly a it sounds that the plane did land on dry land and this is just more generic sea junk which there is plenty of.
One thing is for sure this is a wakeup call for the airlines to fit equipment that can not be turned off easily. And IMO it makes sense if a plane hits water for a beacon to be shot out the bum of the plane so it sits on the surface of the water and doesn't maybe sink to one the deepest places on Earth!
The captain of the first Australian air force AP-3C Orion plane to return from the search area described the weather conditions as
For everyone wanting real-time cloud updates on flights, here's a retired general and former NTSB chairman who agrees with you.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/20/us-malaysia-airlines-blackbox-idUKBREA2J02H20140320
And when the next plane is completely lost after all of that is done and everybody felt better, go back and revisit why it's impossible to make anything 100% idiot-proof and 100% reliable.
It's impossible to prevent lost airplanes.
Update them, improve them, go to town.
If anyone wants to believe that the problem can be solved, great, you have a right to your opinion.
But until you can invent perfect people and perfect engineering, planes will be able to be lost.
And that's not an opinion. Sorry, it's a fact.
Scenario - an electrical fault occurs that takes out the triple-redundant power to the new, isolated antenna. No data are sent.
Scenario - maintenance mistake causes the wiring leading to the antenna to be broken or shorted. No data are sent.
Scenario - fault in the squibb system causes the floating beacon to not eject. The search for the plane takes weeks.
Scenario - maintenance fault misses metal fatigue and the new antenna becomes truly isolated as it's sheared from the aircraft in flight. No data are sent and the air vehicle is put at structural risk.
Scenario - the new, always-hot system develops a catastrophic fault. Because pilots can't turn it off, and circuit breakers failed to act in time, fire spreads from the tail and destroys the plane. All data are lost.
From Wikipedia -
That's who's proposing this lately.
Plus, he's a consultant now.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/20/us-malaysia-airlines-blackbox-idUKBREA2J02H20140320
And when the next plane is completely lost after all of that is done and everybody felt better, go back and revisit why it's impossible to make anything 100% idiot-proof and 100% reliable.
It's impossible to prevent lost airplanes.
Update them, improve them, go to town.
If anyone wants to believe that the problem can be solved, great, you have a right to your opinion.
But until you can invent perfect people and perfect engineering, planes will be able to be lost.
And that's not an opinion. Sorry, it's a fact.
Scenario - an electrical fault occurs that takes out the triple-redundant power to the new, isolated antenna. No data are sent.
Scenario - maintenance mistake causes the wiring leading to the antenna to be broken or shorted. No data are sent.
Scenario - fault in the squibb system causes the floating beacon to not eject. The search for the plane takes weeks.
Scenario - maintenance fault misses metal fatigue and the new antenna becomes truly isolated as it's sheared from the aircraft in flight. No data are sent and the air vehicle is put at structural risk.
Scenario - the new, always-hot system develops a catastrophic fault. Because pilots can't turn it off, and circuit breakers failed to act in time, fire spreads from the tail and destroys the plane. All data are lost.
From Wikipedia -
That's who's proposing this lately.
Plus, he's a consultant now.
So I found this: Missing Flight MH370: CNN anchor genuinely entertains missing plane black hole theory - Weird News - News - The Independent
Really CNN? Asking a lawyer about black holes is preposterous (as is this theory). Clearly she didn't know that there are many black holes out there and we are all perfectly fine (since according to her, the entire universe should have been sucked into a black hole already)
For interviewing a person about something they're not really qualified to talk about, have a barnstar!
Really CNN? Asking a lawyer about black holes is preposterous (as is this theory). Clearly she didn't know that there are many black holes out there and we are all perfectly fine (since according to her, the entire universe should have been sucked into a black hole already)
For interviewing a person about something they're not really qualified to talk about, have a barnstar!
Really has to scare you, what decisions went down at the DoT during her time.
Does me.
They decided these were safe to drive on the road
Maybe she was just trying to shut the stupidity down (I'm feeling charitable, because I'm on my way home now)?
It's just a shame nobody did it properly:
Q: "Is it preposterous to consider a black hole was involved?"
A: "Yes"
All it needed or deserved.
I can't tell if you're being The Professor or MacGyver. The paperclip says MacGyver.
Looks like the flight simulator is being sent to Quantico for further FBI analysis. Probably nothing more than due diligence and chasing down all leads.
I don't have a link. They just popped on as a breaking news on TV. I'll post a link once it hits the interwebz.
I don't have a link. They just popped on as a breaking news on TV. I'll post a link once it hits the interwebz.
Maybe we need to escalate to a ratings system.
For example -
CNN:
Say what you will about the answer, CNN missed the follow-up question -
Is it preposterous to consider that the Easter Bunny was involved?
BRAINZ2013
Extreme Android User
If the FBI know they was going to look for something how did they leave the tools in another place . wow how can you look through someone programs with out the tool . I know they must have never been prepared in school .paper no pencil. Kool with no aid .
So you'd rather that hard disk remained in Malaysia and under their control while the FBI looked it over?
BRAINZ2013
Extreme Android User
Hahahaha yea 
. nahh I have a place setup maybe a base location or if the USS kid was out in action still up on the ship . that was a good laugh .
. nahh I have a place setup maybe a base location or if the USS kid was out in action still up on the ship . that was a good laugh .
whitehat
Android Enthusiast
Gasp! I still read newspapers! From page 13 of today's Daily News. "a veteran aviator has a simpler explanation" for what happened. "It was an electrical fire, Florida pilot Chris Goodfellow claims." The pilot of the 777 was trying to get to the nearest suitable runway. There is a 13,000 foot runway at Pulau Langkawi. This would explain the left turn. Returning to Kuala Lumpur would mean a shorter runway for landing and skirting 8,000 ft ridges. He bases this speculation on the fact that "A pilot's main objective in case of a fire onboard is to land as soon as possible." "Goodfellow says the fire probably knocked out the plane's transponder and communications equipment, and the smoke caused everyone onboard to lose consciousness." With the plane on autopilot the plane overshot the runway and eventually wnet down in the ocean. Jeff Wise, a writer, disagreed with this theory because the last ping from the aircraft would not fall on the infamous arcs.
I decided to post this since it is the most sensible speculation on what happened that I have heard.
I decided to post this since it is the most sensible speculation on what happened that I have heard.