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Hi,
Android manages memory much different than computers. you should familiar yourself with this thread. if you want to remove apps permanently, you should look into rooting. there is a forum dedicated to rooting also.
Android manages memory much different than computers. you should familiar yourself with this thread. if you want to remove apps permanently, you should look into rooting. there is a forum dedicated to rooting also.
I know msconfig is win base pc, was just looking for something similar. As far as editing the registry, not everybody want or have the knowledge to do so.
Back to my concerns, the memory will go down quite a bit on my phone, and sometimes it will hang a little before opening an app (like tel navy or a game) when I go and free up some memory then it open them up without delay. In the cached processed some programs that I'm not using at all are there and eating up memory for nothing.
Back to my concerns, the memory will go down quite a bit on my phone, and sometimes it will hang a little before opening an app (like tel navy or a game) when I go and free up some memory then it open them up without delay. In the cached processed some programs that I'm not using at all are there and eating up memory for nothing.
wake69
Android Expert
If you have a major problem with this then root. As a standard user you have absolutely no control over this. But that is for another discussion. Before root I had no issues with my evo 4g or 3d. Maybe you should look into your apps. The bloatware is there and without root there is nothing you can do
jean15paul
Newbie
Read this: RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care | Android Central
(basically the same info that others have shared, but it's very well written.)
(basically the same info that others have shared, but it's very well written.)
A large store of free ram simply means you're wasting silicon.
Are you having some sort of performance issues?
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skimo281
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I've had a couple Android phones but I've yet to get the hang of them. I keep reading about how amazing the operating systems can be but I always fall sort of getting probably less than half of what my phone is capable of. I've had the EVO 3d for two days now and with moderate usage I have to plug my phone in after three and a half hours. I've disabled everything minus 3g when It's in use and nothing seems to help.
Is there a way to auto close certain apps once you exit them so they dont run in the background. I use the task manager it came with but that doesn't seem to help much either. Any tips would be appreciated, for this problem and tips to get the most out of the phone in general.
Is there a way to auto close certain apps once you exit them so they dont run in the background. I use the task manager it came with but that doesn't seem to help much either. Any tips would be appreciated, for this problem and tips to get the most out of the phone in general.
dgrobe2112
Android Enthusiast
i dont use any auto killer on the Evo3d.. i did.. and it killed the battery.. i use juice defender so it turns things off when the phone is sleeping.. so you know.. texting alot will kill the battery.. turning off and on antennas
jj14x
Android Expert
Go to menu, settings, about, battery, battery use.
That should tell you what is using the battery.
Here's what I do. I turned auto-brightness off and set it to be a low setting (approx 15% or so) - for indoor use, that is enough (for me). I use wifi when I'm at home or office. 3G does drain more battery. (4G will use even more). I leave GPS on, but close off Bluetooth when I'm not using it.
With these settings, my phone lasts me over a day easily (with reasonable use)
There are task killers available, but honestly, you don't need those. Once you exit an app, even though it is "alive", it is not doing anything. Apps like pandora of course are designed to run in the background, so those will such your battery up. But most of the apps will be dormant in the background and will not have any noticeable impact on battery life. killing and restarting (when needed) will probably take more battery life than just leaving it running in the background.
great posts JJ.
merged the thread with this great thread which speaks about taskers and how Android manages. Also @skimo if you want any more info on the 3D please visit the sticky threads at the top of this forum for more information.
merged the thread with this great thread which speaks about taskers and how Android manages. Also @skimo if you want any more info on the 3D please visit the sticky threads at the top of this forum for more information.
Updating Facebook and HBO and Maps, all give "Insufficient Storage Available" on my EVO 3D, with the latest updates. In the "Manage Apps" utility it says I have 285 MB free (actually when I first open it it shows around 100MB and then as it loads it goes all the way up to 285), so what is wrong and how do I fix this???
Rush
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Having too many large applications installed will give that storage error. You should move most applications to your phone SD card partition for more space on the phone. However, if you've done so already and is still getting the same error message, then you might wanna consider "resetting" the device and only installed applications (starting with the largest ones first) that you need and use on a regular.
DragonSlayer95
Resident Air Bender
Exactly you should avoid large apps that isn't compatible with move to sd unless it's a need, or internal space will vanish rather quickly
Sent From My HTC Evo 3D Using TapaTalk 2
Sent From My HTC Evo 3D Using TapaTalk 2
Could also be the /data area filling up with cruft. That's happening now after nearly two years on the Shift, with only a few basic apps installed - no more room to update Maps.
My choices there are to backup, factory data reset and restore - or root and clean caches through recovery.
The market / store isn't afraid of leaving temp files behind (apk and bak) in the dalvik cache, and they can add up over time.
My choices there are to backup, factory data reset and restore - or root and clean caches through recovery.
The market / store isn't afraid of leaving temp files behind (apk and bak) in the dalvik cache, and they can add up over time.
RichKessler
Newbie
So I deleted 67MB in this folder, and another 30 or so fome other folders. However, on my 'Apps' screen my internal storage still sits a 436MB free out of 740MB. Any ideas on why that number has not moved at all?
I think I recall reading somewhere that folder was related to launcher Pro Icons, that's all I recall
Also after deleting have you tried rebooting and then checking again to see if that number has changed.
After a little more research here is what I found:
The folder "LazyList" is simply a cache folder for images viewed from one app or another. Look at the name...it's probably just there to make it easier for apps to use one consolidated cache instead of each one creating and using their own. However, it does not appear to be needed, or cleared with any sort of cache clearing.
http://commons.apache.org/collections/apidocs/org/apache/commons/collections/list/LazyList.html
Also after deleting have you tried rebooting and then checking again to see if that number has changed.
After a little more research here is what I found:
The folder "LazyList" is simply a cache folder for images viewed from one app or another. Look at the name...it's probably just there to make it easier for apps to use one consolidated cache instead of each one creating and using their own. However, it does not appear to be needed, or cleared with any sort of cache clearing.
http://commons.apache.org/collections/apidocs/org/apache/commons/collections/list/LazyList.html
RichKessler
Newbie
I restarted, yes. Right now it's at 415MB free. Weird. I've even gone and removed a large number of my image files. I'll never understand how that number gets to where it is at any given moment 
I'm guessing this has to do with some sort of corruption in the Android OS itself and a hard reset is the only way out..
I'm having internal storage memory disappear. This started about a week ago when I had a low battery and my phone lost power without shutting down properly. I didn't know it was off and hit hit the power button to do something. It must have halfway powered on and died midway. Immediately after that ~100mb of internal storage was suddenly gone. It put me down to a handful of bytes remaning free. I moved a bunch of things to SD and created ~150Mb free space. It lasted about a week then suddenly I got the out of space notification again earlier today. Seems if I free up any space it vanishes to within several hundred bytes of capacity.
I look on astro to hoping to prove it wasn't a memory leak and discovered that the modified dates of many file folders, including the SD card, and some android system (i'm guessing) folders, have changed to 12/31/1969 (I know it's some sort of unix date) which I understand could be an indication of file corruption.
Another odd occurrence coinciding with this is that the icon on my home screen for Whatsapp keeps changing to blank or a generic apk icon. I'm guessing it's related. No other icons have been affected, and everything seemingly works.
Anyone have experience with this or suggestions? I dont' sync anything other than gmail, and i'm still running GB
I'm having internal storage memory disappear. This started about a week ago when I had a low battery and my phone lost power without shutting down properly. I didn't know it was off and hit hit the power button to do something. It must have halfway powered on and died midway. Immediately after that ~100mb of internal storage was suddenly gone. It put me down to a handful of bytes remaning free. I moved a bunch of things to SD and created ~150Mb free space. It lasted about a week then suddenly I got the out of space notification again earlier today. Seems if I free up any space it vanishes to within several hundred bytes of capacity.
I look on astro to hoping to prove it wasn't a memory leak and discovered that the modified dates of many file folders, including the SD card, and some android system (i'm guessing) folders, have changed to 12/31/1969 (I know it's some sort of unix date) which I understand could be an indication of file corruption.
Another odd occurrence coinciding with this is that the icon on my home screen for Whatsapp keeps changing to blank or a generic apk icon. I'm guessing it's related. No other icons have been affected, and everything seemingly works.
Anyone have experience with this or suggestions? I dont' sync anything other than gmail, and i'm still running GB
Yeah.
It's likely a cache problem.
I don't have my 3D with me, so please check under main settings, Storage, Make more space. If you have that option, you can clear out your app caches.
If not, check out "Clean Master (Cleaner) - FREE"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard
Don't use all the features, just the cache and temporary file cleaners.
Beyond that is the main Android cache and then the Android control cache called the Dalvik cache.
Unless you're rooted, you need to do a factory data reset to clean those up completely.
Good news is that there's a free backup solution called Helium Backup in the Play Store.
Backup, reset, restore. Usually works wonders.
Before you start with any of that above, backup your SD card - better safe than sorry - and verify that your contacts are all there on the Gmail web from your PC.
If Whatsapp is installed on your SD card, then the icon or widget won't be there because the home screen is getting ready faster than the SD card on boot up.
It's likely a cache problem.
I don't have my 3D with me, so please check under main settings, Storage, Make more space. If you have that option, you can clear out your app caches.
If not, check out "Clean Master (Cleaner) - FREE"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard
Don't use all the features, just the cache and temporary file cleaners.
Beyond that is the main Android cache and then the Android control cache called the Dalvik cache.
Unless you're rooted, you need to do a factory data reset to clean those up completely.
Good news is that there's a free backup solution called Helium Backup in the Play Store.
Backup, reset, restore. Usually works wonders.
Before you start with any of that above, backup your SD card - better safe than sorry - and verify that your contacts are all there on the Gmail web from your PC.
If Whatsapp is installed on your SD card, then the icon or widget won't be there because the home screen is getting ready faster than the SD card on boot up.
I figured it was going to be messy.
I did see this thread before posting but didn't think my issue was related. The memory disappears just as quick as it's freed up. Seems like the system is forgetting that it has free memory or where it is rather than it being filled up. But then I don't know how android works at all
I do have that option, and I'll try cleaning caches but when I was looking through my app caches, I didn't find a lot of space being taken up there.
Helium won't work for me, I'm still on GB. I'm not rooted, I've gone back and forth on it and always put it off. This seems like a good opportunity to do do it. Actually I might try to root before resetting so I can back up my app data.
Sd card is already backed up so no problems there.
I'm sure it means little but whatsapp is the only app exhibiting that behavior. The icon stays incorrect until I delete and replace the homescreen shortcut. But that's small potatoes.
What about 12/31/1969?
I did see this thread before posting but didn't think my issue was related. The memory disappears just as quick as it's freed up. Seems like the system is forgetting that it has free memory or where it is rather than it being filled up. But then I don't know how android works at all
I do have that option, and I'll try cleaning caches but when I was looking through my app caches, I didn't find a lot of space being taken up there.
Helium won't work for me, I'm still on GB. I'm not rooted, I've gone back and forth on it and always put it off. This seems like a good opportunity to do do it. Actually I might try to root before resetting so I can back up my app data.
Sd card is already backed up so no problems there.
I'm sure it means little but whatsapp is the only app exhibiting that behavior. The icon stays incorrect until I delete and replace the homescreen shortcut. But that's small potatoes.
What about 12/31/1969?
Yeah, Android is Linux, Linux is Unix and the primary time keeping mechanism counts seconds from the beginning of the Unix epoch - 1/1/1970.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1090869/why-is-1-1-1970-the-epoch-time
Bottom line is exactly what you suspect - a process hit some error conditions (could be caused by storage, a ram error, you name it) and everything being time stamped at that moment got set to a null value.
Because you're on GB, maybe see if MyBackup Pro will work for you, if you like.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1090869/why-is-1-1-1970-the-epoch-time
Bottom line is exactly what you suspect - a process hit some error conditions (could be caused by storage, a ram error, you name it) and everything being time stamped at that moment got set to a null value.
Because you're on GB, maybe see if MyBackup Pro will work for you, if you like.
I do have mybackup pro, works great for me, but then I've never had to restore. I will try rooting first so I don't lose all my app data, though in a pinch I suppose there's not much to lose.
Thanks for the help, I was hoping for the best and figuring for the worst. Do I need much internal storage open to be able to root?
Thanks for the help, I was hoping for the best and figuring for the worst. Do I need much internal storage open to be able to root?
Nope, rooting doesn't hit your user storage at all beyond maybe some SD card space, depending. It's really all about the /system partition and nothing you've done as a user affects that.
More details in our root forum here.
More details in our root forum here.