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Help Motorola Locks the Milestone?

HaunteD CoucH said:
Really? I honestly didnt know that the euro ones were locked down as well,but for the sake of the Telus Milestone(and my purchase) may this happen extremely fast
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Motorola's stance is on all android phones not just this one. If they released one with a lock in one country and the same phone in another without why would people buy the one thats locked. And as long as something can be locked it can be unlocked. This is motorola we are dealing with not nasa
 
Brendanmurphy said:
Motorola's stance is on all android phones not just this one. If they released one with a lock in one country and the same phone in another without why would people buy the one thats locked. And as long as something can be locked it can be unlocked. This is motorola we are dealing with not nasa
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Well the droid isnt locked that was what was kinda quirking me around, its like un-locked droid, but locked milestone,WTF motorola?
 
HaunteD CoucH said:
Well the droid isnt locked that was what was kinda quirking me around, its like un-locked droid, but locked milestone,WTF motorola?
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Thats because its a google experience phone the Verizon ordered and google updates. The milestone is controlled entirely by Motorola. They make custom roms.
 
Jabbypants said:
Actually not people with overclocked droids have been saying its made there battery life better lots of forums on the net saying the same.
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Thats because when the phone is inactive they have it underclocked until its needed. So they get performance on demand
 
I just feel its not as smooth as it could be the Milestone my hero for example its super smooth and it runs great even with android 2.1 roms i have tried and these are beta, i would say it runs better than the final versions we are getting on the Milestone which makes no sense as its vastly superior to the Hero.
 
Jabbypants said:
I just feel its not as smooth as it could be the Milestone my hero for example its super smooth and it runs great even with android 2.1 roms i have tried and these are beta, i would say it runs better than the final versions we are getting on the Milestone which makes no sense as its vastly superior to the Hero.
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Motorola needs to step up there QC. HTC has made superior smartphones and they optimize it alot better. Motorola needs to speed things up
 
Well they said custom roms wouldn't happen and people have found ways round that so touch wood they will find this out as well, even if the cpu was put at 600mhz which is what it runs on the iphone 3gs and it is the same cpu in this phone so don't know why its under clocked.
 
i haven't heard anything about the bootloader/kernel signing being broken so i assume this new rom doesn't touch those.
 
Jabbypants said:
Well they said custom roms wouldn't happen and people have found ways round that so touch wood they will find this out as well, even if the cpu was put at 600mhz which is what it runs on the iphone 3gs and it is the same cpu in this phone so don't know why its under clocked.
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One would guess it is under clocked to save battery life. It takes a lot more juice to power the screen the Milestone/Droid has compared to the iPhone.
 
You would think that but people with the droid overclocked to 800mhz+ are finding the battery life better for some reason plus i could cope with a battery that needs charging say 1-2 hours earlier and have the extra speed needed for this phone.
 
Jabbypants said:
You would think that but people with the droid overclocked to 800mhz+ are finding the battery life better for some reason plus i could cope with a battery that needs charging say 1-2 hours earlier and have the extra speed needed for this phone.
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yea, i really want to overclock the milestone to about 800mhz, or at least 600mhz, and i would honestly just buy another battery if it came down to it/
 
HaunteD CoucH said:
yea, i really want to overclock the milestone to about 800mhz, or at least 600mhz, and i would honestly just buy another battery if it came down to it/
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The back on this phone is a major p.i.t.a to take off. When I had my dream I had two batteries and it didn't bother me to change them because it took like 10 seconds. I would go nuts if I had to switch the batteries on this phone. Its not easy to take the back plate off at all.
 
AverageCanadian said:
The back on this phone is a major p.i.t.a to take off. When I had my dream I had two batteries and it didn't bother me to change them because it took like 10 seconds. I would go nuts if I had to switch the batteries on this phone. Its not easy to take the back plate off at all.
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I think maybe Motorola overcompensated for the problem people were having with the Droid's battery cover coming off.

That said, yes, it's annoying trying to remove the battery cover. I managed to drive one of those spring strips under my finger nail the other day trying to get the cover off. Kinda stings a bit when that happens. Add to that the fact that you have to open that cover any time you want to access the memory slot...
 
AverageCanadian said:
The back on this phone is a major p.i.t.a to take off. When I had my dream I had two batteries and it didn't bother me to change them because it took like 10 seconds. I would go nuts if I had to switch the batteries on this phone. Its not easy to take the back plate off at all.
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That blows. Aw well though, no phone is perfect right? Btw, I found a Verizon subdivision that runs verizon's coverage and well, I am going to go CDMA with the Droid and unlimited data, so good luck to you Milestone owners!
 
danthman2000 said:
http://community.developer.motorola.com/t5/MOTODEV-Blog/Custom-ROMs-and-Motorola-s-Android-Handsets/ba-p/4224

Interesting post, pertains to this thread.
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You mixed up the link, it should be Custom ROMs and Motorola's Android Handsets - MOTODEV Discussion Boards

I find that article very discouraging. At least the sugar coating doesn't throw me into a fit of rage. I'm sure the real reason they don't allow custom roms is to protect their bottom line. I'm sure they'd hate to receive a bunch of bricked Milestones, but the truth is, the development community is a million times quicker than Moto. Only God knows how long we'll be waiting for a music fix and the upgrade to 2.1
 
AverageCanadian said:
You mixed up the link, it should be Custom ROMs and Motorola's Android Handsets - MOTODEV Discussion Boards

I find that article very discouraging. At least the sugar coating doesn't throw me into a fit of rage. I'm sure the real reason they don't allow custom roms is to protect their bottom line. I'm sure they'd hate to receive a bunch of bricked Milestones, but the truth is, the development community is a million times quicker than Moto. Only God knows how long we'll be waiting for a music fix and the upgrade to 2.1
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Thanks, I fixed my post..

BTW, here's a little heads up on updates:

https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
 
danthman2000 said:
Thanks, I fixed my post..

BTW, here's a little heads up on updates:

https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
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yeah I've seen that, but considering how long the Droid and Euro Milestone have been out and how long N1 with 2.1 has been out how fast do you think we'll see updates beyond 2.1?

Heck I'm pretty sure I could already put a variant of 2.1 on my HTC Dream. That is why we should be allow to root/custom rom our phones, to pick up for the slow behemoth that are telco's and OEM providers.

If they were fast with their updates I really wouldn't even mind that much.
 
AverageCanadian said:
If they were fast with their updates I really wouldn't even mind that much.
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That's it exactly, if they did their job right we wouldn't have to try to fix it ourselves.

There will always be a contingent of users who want to run the latest modded rom, but speaking for myself, my primary motivation to root and possibly run custom roms is because of Canada's current lack of access to paid apps (hopefully to change soon), and to improve performance and fix problems the OEM is too slow to address.

Milestone has more memory than G1/Dream but someday I may want apps2sd to free up more room and I might want to speed things up a bit with compcache or linux swap. Those things need root at the very least.

But I don't need those things. What I do need is a phone that works as advertised and the opportunity to buy the same apps that customers in USA and Britain and Germany have been able to buy from the beginning.
 
If you're interested in joining a little grassroots campaign to light a fire under Motorola to reconsider the lockdown please go here Motorola deletes comments of unhappy customers: join the action on Twibbon, Digg, Facebook | Sigrid writes. Digg the articles and grab a twibbon for your Facebook and Twitter avatars and above all, spread the word.

Motorola is counting on us just being the quiet, unassuming pacifists we usually are and since few people in the U.S. know about it, they think they can get away with it.

Truth is, they won't stop with the Milestone.
 
You mean manufacturers like Apple might make you buy e-books for the iPad? Or tell you because you bought a device a certain way, that's the way it is?

Suggest you find hackers to make your life complete, or don't worry about it. Fact is, Motorola isn't going to cave to demands because of Twitter. There are bigger things to worry about. Haiti, Katrina, the economy. Fight a fight worth fighting, or just have a nice day.
 
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